Fallguy

Will you don't have to print the whole thing. I usually just copy and paste the off-limits places and print them. Also make a note whether they are a must notify state or not.

Well...what is an "illegal weapon"? Rarely is the weapon itself illegal only the possession of it in certain circumstances. If one was going to go that route I believe the suggestion below is bit better, but not sure how many places would be willing to actually issue written authorization.

Perhaps just adding an exception like in many state laws. Something like... "This policy does not apply to handguns stored out of sight in a locked vehicle by employees with a valid TN Handgun Carry Permit."

Depends of the laws of the other state. In some states they issue Deadly Weapons permits which allows the carry of other weapons besides a handgun, but in TN that permit would only be good for a handgun because of TN law. In other states there may not even be a law against the carry of a club or baton...

Because having a HCP doesn't make it legal to carry it handgun, it is simply a defense to the application of 39-17-1307. TN has decided that even though they will provide that defense to others, they will not force property owners to allow it. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just that I figure that is why 39-17-1359 postings carry they weight of law. In other states where carry (OC or OC and CC) is legal without a permit, then in most of those states "No Guns" signs aren't anything more than like "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service" signs.

My guess is because Handgun Carry in general is illegal in TN already. Only those of us that have bought a permit can legally carry one in public. All the sign does is basically say our permits are no good inside their store. Other signs a business may post prohibiting certain things probably aren't things that are already illegal per state law and only are allowed by those that have permit.

Out of all the states that do not honor TN permits only Washington and Maine honor some other state's permits..the others that don't honor TN don't honot ANY other state's permits. I wrote the Washtington Attorney General a few years ago and the reason I was given about why they didn't honor TN permits has been addressed in the law since then. Not sure why they don't honor TN permits yet. From what I can tell about Maine they only honor states that they have written agrements with. I have contacted my Rep about the above and his office replied back a somewhat generic response they got from the Commisioner of Safety's office about reciproicty...but I may try to follow up a bit more on it.

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They won't know till they run your DL number though. Many times a LEO may just ask to see your license and then hand it back and tell you to slow down, signal next time etc... and never actually run it. But I agree you shouldn't let a LEO "discover" a firearm on you or in the vehicle without telling him. So if it looks like I will be searched for some reason I would inform him.

Isn't that why some say Concealed means Concealed? But I'm pretty sure this officers reaction would have been the same if the handgun was carried openly...probably even worse (if that is possible).

What difference does it make? Even if he was, not like it's the crime of the century....

What he said

Saw this on another gun forum...didn't watch the whole thing...already upset about a few other things, didn't need another one on my list. Based on comments I've seen, glad I didn't. At least it looks like the PD is doing something about it.

AFAIK that is the intent of almost all the places like that....just some of them don't go into such detail on their signs. They don't always add the "This does not apply......" Guess they had one to many questions/complaints about it before.... Definitely easy to understand policy....or should be...lol

LOL...yeah got more info after I made that post...

You mean my long-winded post (#23) didn't clear it up?...lol

If she doesn't go to the Dept of Safety and pay her $115 till on or after 8-1-11 there won't be a problem or rush to get printed.

Since Knoxville Parks are off-limits per pre-1986 city ordnance....they do not have to post per 39-17-1311, but it is also correct that carry there is not a violation of 39-17-1311, it is a violation of a city ordnance. Also, remember, an AG opinion is just that...an opinion. He's reasoning behind about being able to be charged even if a park isn't posted is based on a case where a person was convicted or carry on school property even though the school didn't have the sign required by law. But my argument is, schools are off-limits by law already. So even though a sign is supposed to be posted, even if it isn't they are still off-limits. But parks are legal by default and are only off-limits if the elements of 39-17-1311 are met, one of which is posting signs..... At least that is my "opinion"...lol

My understanding is there is a bill in Congress now that would allow Carry on COE property like in National Parks....

That's TN.

That is why I somewhat prefer states like AZ and AK that don't require permits to carry but still issues permits with certain requriements etc.. that are honored in many states for those residents that may want them to travel. Of course if all states where just like VT that would take care of alot...lol

What he said, That sub-forum is supposed to be just for reporting posted places, not discussion. If I don't clean it up like I've been promising Dave is going to fire me...lol

Actually he is correct, but you are too. If you just go straight there on your own, you don't have to sign in, just agree to their terms. But if you use their "cite" link built into their page, the link it creates ask you to sign in.