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Did some hunting while living in AZ. to include black bear, mountain lion, deer and elk.  Took the .300WM with me and never looked back.  Has a nice range of bullets to shoot and you never have to worry about getting a kill even with a slightly less than perfect shot.  After that it really boils down to personal preference.  Recoil can easily be disapated with a muzzle break and gel type recoil pad.  Even w/o your usually only pulling the trigger once, so man up..lol.

This is a good deal also.   http://www.slickguns.com/product/556-223-62gr-ammunition-brass-case-boxer-primed-ss109-2013-factory-new-%C2%BB-bulletsforless-360

So you are saying that criminals wont carry guns because they do not have a permit and that this system we have currently works to prevent them frim having guns?,,did I read this wrong?  Lol..they banned guns altigether in Chicago and know the only people being killed are the defenseless ones by criminals that obtained the guns illegally.    This is a simple question and many of you may have heard it purposed a few different ways so hear it goes... If everyone was carrying a weapon for defense, do you think that criminals would be as brazen and open in there attacks while using guns?

Some folks are born with stupid all over there faces and it will never come off.  Unfortunately we have to wait for nature at times to fix this inherent flaw in the system and thin the herd.  Sorry you had to deal with that, but glad you handled it like a champ.

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Sounds like you have found Hi Tech Ammo. I have used the pulled rounds they sell in both 55gr and 62 gr and they shoot just fine. I have never noticed a loss in accuracy. They have pretty good prices on primers also.

One of the perks that goes along with the dollar being the world currency is getting lower prices on oil purchases. Once the dollar gets dropped as the world currency we will fall into line with the rest of the world and what they pay for oil and see a huge increase in the price of gasoline.

Been 8 years now for me and going Cold Turkey was the key for me also. Congratulations and cheers to a renewed life plan.

We lost control of the ship long before this bill passed in Congress. History is and should be the worlds greatest teacher but it is the most forgotten facet when it comes to using hindsight to prevent mistakes. Unfortunately this society we have in America is well on the way to falling just as every other great civilization in history. The reason is as simple as it gets. Man as a being becomes lustful, greedy and self serving the more power he is granted. This country has been eaten alive from the inside out and all that is left is a hollow shell. This does not mean that the average citizen is corrupt. We as most other slave forces have been duped is all. Other countries have that see what we have not for years laugh at us because of our general vanity and selfish lifestyle. Those that really run this country have kept the majority of us in a posh existence in order to keep us happy little workers that keep generating money and wealth for our keepers. Now that the ship is starting to sink we have begun to see more and more control measures being enacted so that as it gets worse, we can easily be plucked out of the collective and out away somewhere else so that we do not disturb or aggravate the rest of society. The final chapters are being written. I am curious to see how much farther and faster this type of population control will grow. I am not the smartest man by far in any circumstance but as the saying goes..."Don't piss down my back and tell me it's just rain" Our apathy as a nation has gotten us here. I wonder if it is to late to climb back out.

LOL...an idiot that makes six figures while playing pc games. I want to be an idiot if that is the case.

Look at the infractions upon our civil liberties as we speak. The sheeple population in America today is large enough to actually fall for it. Hell look at the whole TSA debacle and you will see what folks are willing to put up with if enough fear mongering gets thrown in there faces.

Very interesting and seeing the history of the constitution smashing criminal currently sitting this theory could actually hold water. Thanks for the food for thought. I would not put it past Him at all. He in fact has proven himself to be one of the biggest bald faced liars yet.

Ron Paul...Nuff said. His record speaks for itself. His morality meter has always been intact. There is a reason that the mainstream media ignores him and it is simply because those that run the system in place also own the media.

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If you reload this is a good spot to get them. The new are out of stock, but I have used the pulled/resized and they work just fine. Also the pulled powder meters well. http://www.hi-techammo.com/

Any ammunition manufactured in that state. I checked back with some friends that still live in Az and they said the number of small shops that started making and selling ammunition increased quite a bit. Those folks out there love their guns and ammunition. Having had conversation with many of them, the consensus is screw the ATF and there meddling.

If I am not mistaken this applies to ammunition manufactured in this state also. I know it does so in Montana and Arizona. If it is manufactured in the state and stays in the state the federal government has no say about it.

History is a great example of what not to do and what does not work. This countries government along with the people that run it financially from the shadows are actually vain enough to think that we can do what Rome and Persia could not do. Proof is in the pudding folks. The military actions that we wage overseas are a big part of why this country is in such financial distress. You can talk about oil and what not but this country has enough resources on its own land to sustain itself without going outside of its borders. Has anyone heard of Prudhoe Bay? There are huge deposits of nautral gas under our very own lower 48. I dont claim to know what goes on behind closed doors but if you break it down to its lowest form, the video we just watched speaks volumes. It is just my opinion and worth almost as much virtual memory it took to make this post happen. My thoughts have always been that the military itself was formed to DEFEND our country. How is taking a military action off of our homeland a form of defense? I cannot remember his name, but a high ranking Japanese Admirals was asked why Japan didnt attack the mainland of the United States during World War 2. His response was simply because there was a gun carrying citizen behind every blade of grass.

My Dad is a tool and die maker by trade with over 30 years experience. There isn't much he cant make given the proper materials and tools. I wish that I had followed in his footsteps. Machining is some serious business.

Yes but you will never see a journalist with the cajones to write a story like this. It does not nor ever will fit the political agenda of the anti-gun folks. If a TGO member can come up with verifiable statistics and wirte them in a coherent manner then why can't those who actually write the stories that get published?

I caught a bit of it also and I stopped watching. I felt really bad for the machinist recreate the knuckle buster. The owner was a real jerk to him, especially since he had obviously no skill or understanding of the process required to make the gun. The poor kid told him that it was going to be a huge challenge because he couldnt get all of the measurements and the owner still chewed him out on his first attempt. The guy obviously liked to hear himself speak. I loved when the ranch owner with the huge collection asked him whether or not he was going to lecture him all day or buy guns. I may give another episode a try but I am thinking not.

I hear you. In order to kill anyone without due process there has to actually be a declared war. This whole "incremental creep" that is slowly eating away our rights is frightening.

I dont remember the senate making any votes and approving any action that has been taken by our military. I guess I am with Ron Paul again on this one. This man has said it more than once that having the media call what is going on is wrong due to the fact that congress has not given a 2/3 approval for any of it. The fact that it says "today" in the wiki version says something. Does that mean when it was originally written it meant something else?. Our Constitution has become so bastardized its not even funny. War Powers Congress holds the power to declare war. As a result, the president cannot declare war without their approval. However, as the Commander in Chief of the armed forces, many presidents have sent troops to battle without an official war declaration (ex. Vietnam, Korea). The 1973 War Powers Act attempted to define when and how the president could send troops to battle by adding strict time frames for reporting to Congress after sending troops to war, in addition to other measures. The senate still has to be notified and approve the actions. If they do not then why even have a constitution. Article 1 Section 8 Powers of Congress 11th line; To declare war. I just reread http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html. I didnt see anything under Executive powers to declare war.

Agreed. Congress is and only has been the body of government that can declare war. The reason that this was set in place was to prevent ONE man from being able to start wars.