Marswolf

Glad this was found. Saves me some time looking for it. Main problem in getting it passed is probably that it would take some ambulance-chasing revenue away from attorneys. For a lot of legislators, that's a powerful reason to not pass it. Anyone remember 1788? The State of Franklin's Constitution forbade lawyers and clergy from being legislators. I think that was very wise.

Hey guy. Welcome! We have some very active members in the Memphis area. They have already gotten together for a shoot. Just jump in and get to know the folks. This board hasn't been up long, so all of us are new.

Jack, I had a Savage 17R for a while. That was before the Accutrigger came out. It was reasonably priced and very accurate. I traded it for something I'd use more than a 17 HMR, but would buy one again. Only negative was that if you get in a hurry, it is possible to mis-mount the magazine and jam it in the well. Maybe that has now been fixed.

Yeah, people get corrupted by the system. I recall talking to Rusty Crow a few years ago. He told me it took his first term just to figure out how to work the system. It shouldn't be that way and if it wasn't for the corrupt who just want power, it wouldn't be.

Hey Len, I get the feeling you might not feel that way if Williams was a Democrat who just turned Independent. The reality is that it probably won't make any real difference. Maybe in a couple of years if Ramsey wants to be Lt. Governor again. He's my state senator, but I consider him to be a pretty-boy. More hair-gel than substance. But I don't have much use for the other legislators I know either. No offense, but the vast majority of people who want to be legislators are people I wouldn't trust with my dog.

Boy, are you confused.... Remember in my HS GPA post I was talking about just engineering students. And my guess is that only 5% of freshman engineering students understand what engineering is really about. Of course that's 5% more than the students in other curricula.

You have to be very careful in "securing" evidence. Try to not let it get away, but don't touch it or let anyone else do so if at all possible. Those shell casings or knife indicates where you and the BG were. Moving them may be tampering with evidence. It is a good idea to learn how to not give your rights away in these situations. If you admit to something, you just gave away your 5th Amendment rights. For example, don't tell investigators that you couldn't really tell if the BG had a weapon or not. You were in fear of your life and want an attorney before answering any other questions. Don't let them intimidate you. The investigator may be best friends with John Kerry. I recommend watching a video about protecting your rights. It's put out by the Flex Your Rights Foundation (read ACLU) and is primarily about how to not get busted for drug possession, but there are other valuable lessons in the video too. Well worth the 45 minutes of watching time. The Foundation will gladly sell you a copy, but you can watch it for free at . The police will play games with you and you need to know how to protect yourself. This video is a good start.

Hey, that sounds like some good practical advice, skwashdem.

With some trepidation, I'm going to post this. I'm not trying to be impolite or pile on anyone, but just make a legal point. OK? I've been thinking about this training thing in light of a jury in a civil trial. Remember that a civil court just just has to have a majority of people why vote against you in the suit. Of course I am for training. But the kind of training you take may affect the jury's view of you. Imagine yourself in a shooting related civil suit. They bring out the type of training you have taken. Stuff like gun safety would be good. Courses including reminders of what state law allows would be a plus. Classes that can be shown to help you avoid collateral damage should be in your favor. But what happens when the plaintiff's attorney starts listing all of the "tactical" classes you took just for fun and to develop good gun skills. If they are not job related, that lawyer is going to try to paint you as some yahoo Rambo wannabee. My point, if I have one, is that some training may help you survive but also be a liability in a courtroom after the event. I'd like some input on this from the members.

Len, I think you misspoke. Amendments need ratification by 3/4 of the state legislatures. Just picking nits. I had an Engineering assistant-dean at UT named Bill Lyday. Dean Lyday told me the greatest indication of success in college was high school grade point average. And the people with the highest average weren't always the smartest people. Basically it comes down to work ethic. If you are willing to work for the grades, you will get them and be successful at college and probably at life. The "education lottery" is another matter. I think the lottery money should go in the general fund.

Len, you are right that we need a dinner up here in the Tri-Cities. But they do take a lot of work to put on and I just don't have the time right now. Hell, I don't know if I'll be here in this country next week. So, I'll have to pass on helping set one up. It would probably be good to set up the dinners in places with anti-gun politicians to remind them we do vote.

Well this has died down far too quickly.... I spotted a magazine this week that gets into the M9/9mm vs. 1911/45 ACP debate for military use. It's the April issue of something. Guns and Ammo - I think (lost my note). To my surprise, the writer agrees with me and gives the nod to the 9mm.

One state that is off limits surprised me - Florida. I knew that the states that touch Tennessee were OK for interstate purchases of rifles and shotguns. You keep up with this more when you live a stone's throw from the state line. All interstate handguns have to go through a FFL in your home state, of course.

I was in Wal-Mart this week and noticed a map in the gun racks showing which states' residents are allowed to buy a rifle or shotgun in Tennessee. For some reason, I though a lot more states were off-limits. Basically, the law says: Provided that federal law and the laws of both the dealer's and purchaser's states and localities are complied with: * An individual 21 years of age or older may acquire a handgun from a dealer federally licensed to sell firearms in the individual's state of residence * An individual 18 years of age or older may purchase a rifle or shotgun from a federally licensed dealer in any state I was surprised that states like New York, Maryland, and Hawaii were legal. Not legal includes Kalifornia, of course, and a handful of other states. But if you are visiting from most states, you can buy your rifle and take it home with you. I'll have to see if I can get a photo of the sign. Sounds like Wal-Mart is promoting gun sales in the stores that still have them.

You guys will get a chance to learn a bit about Grayfox as he posts. As an aside, what he saying is not just an opinion, but a conclusion based on professional experience.

As everyone has said, don't sweat it. The shooting qualification section is pretty much a joke as long as you don't kill another student or the instructor. If you have a .22 pistol, or can borrow one, use it. You don't have to qualify with the handgun you will carry. All the questions on the written exam are covered in the class. We had about 50 people in the class. Divided up for the qualification part. Everyone passed.

Yeah, I use an isosceles stance and am right handed. I didn't even notice when I switched eyes. It just happened, probably because I do keep both eyes open with handguns. I've heard mixed reviews of the bifocal contacts. Monovision works for me. First law of engineering - if it's not broken, don't fix it.

I had a Kel-Tec SUB-2000 in 9mm for a while. Actually it was quite accurate at 100 yards +. It was a bit funky in its cycle and occasionally acted up. Main problem was that the front sight kept slipping. It's just held in position by friction. With bullet velocity, I'd think that 9mm would be a better round than 45 ACP for a carbine. Best I recall, you are looking at about 16 inches of drop at 100 yards for the 45.

We have a strange situation here in the Tri-Cities. The guy, and his wife, who organize the dinners do it for Virginia rather than Tennessee. Now I could see them doing that when they lived in Virginia, but now they work in Tennessee and even own a gun shop here. They also are in their second Tennessee home. A lot of Tennessee people got tired of going to the dinner and the money being spent in Virginia.

Actually molonlabetn, I partially do what you do. I keep both eyes open with a high power scope until I acquire the target. Then I normally close my weak eye (remember distant stuff will be out of focus with that eye) unless there is a reason to keep it open. Helps me concentrate on the target. But I'm talking about a 8-32 scope and taking my time on the shots.

Yeah, shooting out the front door might get expensive after a couple of new doors.

Jackdog, I just try to get people to look at the strengths and weaknesses of any gun. The M60 is a fine rifle, but I wouldn't try carrying it for deer hunting.

Precisely, Jackdog. Having said that, I normally only keep one eye open when using a scoped rifle. For pistols, I keep both eyes open. This just evolved over time. First, I'm blind as a bat without corrective lenses, and since I spend a lot of time in rainy areas, contacts work well. Being over 40 (well over), I also need some help with reading distances. So I use Monovision contacts. The right eye is for distance and the left eye is for reading. It works well. Now...I'm right-eyed, so I normally used that eye for aiming guns. One day I noticed that I had shifted to the left eye. Reason? With my distance corrected eye and developing farsightedness, I couldn't see the sights well with that eye. My arms weren't long enough.... So, I now shoot handguns left-eyed. The right one just stays open and aids with the peripheral stuff.

Hey guy, glad you made it! I won't spoil your thunder by telling everyone your background and about your expertise. Suffice it to say that Grayfox is one of the very few "civilians" I'd trust to watch my back.

I was just kidding you Blue.