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Gold Dot 125 +P in 38 Gold Dot 125 in 357 Ruger SP101 or Federal C357B 125JHP Same in Smith 586 with addition of Hornady 125 XTP 170 flat point in Model 94 peach pits in Mossberg 500:D

Do you have the tritium or the phosphorous model?

Finally found my old Swiss Army Brand compass yesterday. Model is Recta Type DP2. Anyone have any experience with these? Still seems to be in good working order, needle settles quickly. One problem is a large bubble in the capsule now.

Nah, Rando, you borrow all the info you need, you're welcome to it. I just hope you're not in as bad of a shape as me. Just bring it back when you're done!:taunt:I've got a couple decent compasses, I just want a good one. Just ain't decided which one (quality vs. cost). Me and a friend of mine are planning on a day early spring where we can take our kids on an all day hike. I do need to get a good compass course and study up so we can teach the boys. Good for all of us to retain that kind of skill.

Admittedly biased here, cause I'm a revolver fan through and through. If you've just GOTTA do it, then I'd go with the Smith. Just my opinion. I know others have other opinions, but they're all wrong!:D:D Just kidd'n. I have to carry a .40 at work, and I'm just not much on the .40. Long stories there I won't get into. I do like the .357 though. You've got a lot of versatility there for defensive packing or carrying in the woods or what not. Rat shot, 125JHP, 158 grain, 180 grain. Good points made here on the Taurus too. But you do need to handle/shoot both. Find what works for you. My revolver fetish may not be right for you. Someone else's auto fetish may not either. Bottom line is, if your not comfortable with it, there's a chance you may not be confident or competent with it. Get what you're comfortable with and train with it till you hate training with it. After that, train some more. That said, I sure hate to see you get rid of that fine piece of machinery. Wish I had something left to swap you for it. Good luck to you brother.

Thanks fellers. Been looking at a Cammenga at a local store. I believe its the phosphorous and not the tritium. Can pick it up for 37 + tax. Kind of like to have the tritium though. Also been looking a the Brunton 15TDCL, the Silva Ranger 515, and the Brunton 8099 Pro on ebay. 8099 is a little pricey for me. Looks like I've got a good compass course manual and a good vacation (time to study and learn) in the near future.

What would be the best choice in a compass for a feller to obtain? Of course that'll have to be tempered with cost, but I would like to have the best one I can find for the money. Also, where could I find a good compass training course. Sure do need a refresher, skills have gotten rusty. How good are the training videos, such as the one from Brunton, etc? I am looking at some of the Bruntons, as described in the maps and orienteering thread, but the most important thing is for me to find some real good educational materials in this area. I might remember a little about shooting an azimuth, nothing about declination, and I have no friggin idea what a clinometer is! Now you see how bad shape I'm in, huh?

You'll have to show me how! Signed: Ye Olde Compyooture Gurue:taunt: Yeah, that's about a joke! I'm sure it's probably a pretty simple process, but I haven't looked into it. I've promised pictures of that one and of the Ruger SP101 and Mark III, so I'd better get on it.

Thanks for the help man!

May be on here somewhere, didn't see it. How do I learn the age/manufacture date or general dates for the Smith 586 with no dash? Thanks for the help. Rick

Apparently even AVERAGE intelligence is not a requirement for elected office in TN, as demonstrated by this bonehead Williams.

Ya'll is gittin me real curious here. Juuuussttt wonderin.

Got to break her in this morning. Went to my buddy's range where he has some steel popper targets. Didn't do any time on paper targets yet though. Stepped out back of his shop and set up. 65 yards from there to the half size steel silhouettes he has. Shot half decent with some old 130gr AE round nose FMJ. It liked the few 38+P's I brought. Then went to the full house. Had some left over rounds of 357 in Corbon, Hydrashok, and Golden Sabre, just some odd-out rounds that I just had a few (6-8) each of. Sounded off with a good bit of buck and roar. The targets stood up, took notice, and went ta swingin'. Enjoyed it so much at 65 yards I never bothered to move up to the 25. Really happy with this baby! Got it stoked right now with the 125gr Hornady XTP, also have Speer Gold Dot 125 and Federal C357B 125JHP as well. Figured the Hornady would be good for all around packin in the woods in the Smith 586 too. It's hard to describe how friggin happy I am now to once again have a good quality brace of revolvers. It's like going back to what ya just know is right for ya!

Well, being the highly advanced computer guru that I am:screwy:, I uuhhh, dunno how. I'll get em on here when I figure it out though.

Yeah, I know, but I was too LAZY to type out the full "three and one sixteenth" bit. Speaking of that, the 3 1/16" is the one I wanted for sure. For one thing, I think it looks a little more "bidness like" but I was also wondering how much velocity and accuracy one might gain from the little bit of extra length. I know there's a formula out there for how much velocity is lost/gained with shorter/longer barrels, and I believe some of that will depend on what commercial ammo you use or what powder you use (slow/medium/fast burn rate). All that factored with bullet weight and construction being equal, say 125 grain Gold Dot or XTP for example for the .357. That, and do you have any recommendations on the best powder to use for .357 as far as what brand and burn rate and why? I probably wont handload a whole lot for the 101, except for .38 practice ammo, but I will for my 586 6". The 101 is mainly defense - duty backup and off duty primary since I'm a revolver nut - but the Smith is hunting and defense. Now for that I'll load some 125's and either 158's or 180's. Thinking about the 180's (deer, coyote, hogs, the occasional blue wildebeest:rolleyes:). I'd really like to settle on a powder I could use for all the above to keep it simple and save a little money, if practical to do so. Anyway, sorry for the long verbal spew. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks Rick

Got the SP101 3" in today! Beeeyooteeful! Reminds me of my old one I had several years ago, and have missed ever since I sold it (dang such foolishness). Ruger must have improved the action a bit over the years. Had some action work done on my old one and this one still seems smoother than I remember. Trigger stages very nicely. Good to have one in my hands again though. Haven't gotten much work done at all tonight, seeing as how I've been fondling and molesting this thing since this afternoon! Gonna go break it in tomorrow.

Good to know that cause I was looking around for another Silva. Now where to find a good Brunton at a good price cuz that one in the link above, while being something I would love to have, it was too spensive!

AMEN!

When I'm off and out I'll carry the Taurus 85 ultalite loaded with 125 grain Speer Gold Dots and 2, sometimes 4 speed strips of same. I was hoping my SP101 would be in today. At that point I'll carry it with 4 speed strips and the 85 as a bug, maybe with 1 speed strip right beside it. I always think of the handgun as a tool to use to fight your way back to your long gun. When I get to my truck, I'll transition to the good ole Model 94!

I always carry. Went to a gun show in Nastyville some years ago. I was off duty. Saw the signs. I asked a couple of Metro officers about it. Got the following rhetorical answer: "What's it say on the back of your comission card?" "Uhhhh, that I'm-a supposed ta carry ever whur I go." "Yup, well, tell-em to kiss yur #$@%^&!" "Alright then" I'd personally treat it the same with an HCP. Don't know ya, but I don't want to see you in a situation where you need it and don't have it, or have some worthless piece of %^&*# break into your vehicle and steal it. I do always carry it concealed, though, just to avoid the hassle. Just my .

Casing. Cell phone pic of the car next outing, if they're back. Talk to the more alert neighbors. Anyone with security cameras to record? If somebody could make some calls next time they're seen and have quite a few residents come on out, might pass the hint to move on to easier pickins. OR...you could just find the car and "remove it from the gene pool.":tough:

Just to clarify, I did get the Smith 586, he wouldn't come down off of 500 and I knew he would get that from someone, judging by what they've been selling for on the auction site. So, I traded into it. Piece that I had only 300 in plus some boot. Got him down to 400 that way. Very pleased with it. Now I've ordered a Ruger SP101. Couldn't stand it anymore. Bowed out of the one on the auction site. A few got into a bidding war and drove the price up to 376. I just refused to pay that for a used one. Hard-headed I am! Got a friend who's an FFL. Cheapest he could find it was 396 plus tax and shipping. His distributor only had 3 left, so I went ahead and ordered it. Should be in tomorrow.

Searching for a Smith or Ruger 357 and ran across the Smith and Wesson 520 on Gunbroker. Anyone know anything about them? Appears Smith ran them for a while, but I don't find them on the site now. What are they worth? Pros/Cons? Thanks

YeeeeHaaawww! Picked up a Smith 586 a couple days ago! 6" barrel. Looks like it hasn't been shot very much at all. Now for a Wolfe spring kit. Ruger SP101 is next on the list. Gotta find some good ammo now, got a few boxes put back, but that ain't nearly enough!

Well I am planning for just that. I do want a 4 or 6" six gun though, mostly for woods use. Tough decision with the money limitations and all. Found a half decent deal on the 586 6", so that would do for any handgun hunting I would need to do here in TN. Plus a 357 is a little cheaper to feed than the 44's I had. I say "half decent" because it is a little steep for my meager budget: 586 "no dash" 6" with Pachmayr and wood grips and 2 or 3 speed loaders, he's asking 500. But I do really want that 101 though, with the 3" barrel. I plan on using it for duty backup and for off duty carry, so I'll get a whole lot of use out of it year round. I agree fully, it is "absotively, posilutley" a fine piece.