TGO David

Honestly, one of the better reasons against a public protest.

Not to hijack, but what do you think of that Trojan?

Apparently you thought I was joking around with my announcement. You just earned yourself a permanent vacation from TGO.

Actually the Glock is just fine for dry firing and/or dropping the slide on. The 1911 is a little different of an animal. Like I said, it probably won't hurt it immediately but it won't be good for it over the long haul. Hopefully one of you guys telling him to just go ahead and abuse it will be there to help pay for a new extractor, trigger job or other repairs down the road when it starts to act up on him. Look at it this way: You have a lot of very reputable high-end gunsmiths who specialize in the 1911 on the record as saying dropping the slide on a 1911 with an empty chamber is not good for it. These guys get paid big money to work on 1911s, so it benefits them for you to dick up your gun and need to have it repaired. What agenda could they possibly have in telling you how to get maximum life expectancy out of your weapon??? I'm going to go with the recommendations of people like Hilton Yam, Chuck Rogers, Bill Wilson, etc. over someone using a Glock analogy.

Not sure why this was aimed at LEO's in particular but frankly the cop-bashing that has become so popular on TGO lately needs to stop. I can think of scum in every profession. My wife's ex husband is a complete piece of **** and just happens to be a volunteer fireman. Does that mean all firemen are douchebag losers? Let's stop painting professions with such broad strokes.

Give him a gift certificate to the nearest range/gun shop and then take him shooting to see what he really likes.

Having a different dovetail machined into it would definitely open up the field of prospective sights for you. Many use the Novak cut for at least the rear sight, but Kimber is known to use their own cut as is Wilson Combat. Springfield uses the Novak cut for their TRP, Operator and Loaded guns. Smith & Wesson uses the Novak cut for all of theirs I think.

Disagree. This quote says it better than I can: When the slide slams home on an empty chamber it jolts the entire gun, bouncing the sear engagement point on the hammer face. When the gun is picking up a cartridge (loading from the magazine) the slide is slowed considerably and this reduces the impact and thus reduces the jarring effect on the hammer/sear interface. And here's another discussion about it: What's wrong with releasing the slide on an empty chamber? - THR Bottom line is it's kind of like slamming the door on your car excessively hard. It probably isn't immediately bad for the car but it's not good for it in the long run either.

Clinton.

Nice! Hilton Yam over at 10-8 Performance just came out with a sight that drops into the dovetail on those. Our National Match style rear sight (01-140), is designed to fit into the dovetail of GI pattern 1911 pistols. Its extra thick serrated blade is .315" tall for compatibility with new production Colts, and features a .140" wide U notch. User installable (with some hand fitting), no machining required. The newly revised design includes a more rounded profile and additional edge chamfers to improve comfort for handling and carry. 10-8 Performance

I was holding out for a Milt Sparks VM2 to use with my Kimber Warrior but the wait time is a killer. I may still pick one up eventually, but I just placed an order with Eric over at HBE Leatherworks [link] for one of his stunning Com3 inside the waistband creations. As you can see, it's somewhat similar in design to the VM2 but Eric will cut it to whatever degree of cant you want (I went with 20°) and will also optionally mold in a small tab of leather at the trailing edge that helps stabilize the holster when sitting. His lead time right now is about 5-6 weeks and the price was well within my budget at just a hair north of $120. I'm anxious to receive it and will of course post pictures once I do. In the meantime, is anyone here already a customer of HBE? Do you have pictures of your holster that you could share?

I understand and I won't be doing the "Toldyaso" dance in any case. We're all welcome to disagree with each other here. I just tend to be a little more... verbose... when I disagree.

There are mixed schools of thought on this. Some say yes, some say no. I do it but not excessively. If you want to do some dry fire practice maybe invest in some Snap Caps or Safe-T-Trainer dummy rounds. I think it's probably more damaging to drop the slide on an empty chamber than it is to dry fire them. Dropping the slide on an empty chamber can be a bit rough on the 1911 extractor.

My taxes were lowered when I got laid off earlier this year. GO OBAMA!!! WHOOO!!!!

I'm a pretty high mile 36. I wouldn't wish half the crap I've been through on anyone else. All of which begs the question... did Thomas Jefferson or Benjamin Franklin ever utter the words, "I'm too old for this ****".

Eh... I don't agree with much of what CK1 said in principle, but I support his right to voice his opinion. That being said, rather than attack him for being a bit on the fringe, how about everyone just debate the talking points instead.

The part of the story that suited their agenda, of course. And I'm sure you are going to point to that and say "AH HAH! Told you so!" but you have to consider that I don't base my decisions on the fear that some kook from the other side might ridicule me for them. The best any of us can do is to put our best foot forward and be sincere in our efforts to do the right thing for the right reasons. Someone, somewhere will always be there to mock whatever it is you're taking a stand for. Or at the very least mock HOW you decided to take that stand. I guess if I always worried that much about what someone else was thinking, I'd feel pretty old at the comparatively young age of 49 also. But back to the subject: It's actually rather inspiring to me that a Leftwing blogger has picked up this story and started criticizing me for thinking about staging a peaceful protest against Boscos. To me, it smells like fear and loathing. Fear that a Conservative might use a traditionally radical Leftist means of opposition against them, and loathing that one of us has finally figured it out.

I can't say that I've ever felt intimidated while driving down the street and seeing unions picket or protesters protesting. Their intended goal seemed to be raising awareness. That was my intended goal with the suggestion here. Clearly it's raised some awareness or the Leftist bloggers wouldn't have already latched onto the story.

One nice footnote in all of this is that local Liberal Moonbat radio host Mary Mancini has picked up on it and given TGO a nice plug on her Blog. Boscos at Gunpoint LIBERADIO(!) Thanks for visiting, Mary!

Firstly, bite me. Secondly, I wasn't fighting for my right to stage a protest. That right is one of the few that anyone gives a flying fk about anymore. Infringe on someone's 1st Amendment rights and there is bloody hell to pay. Infringe on someone's 2nd Amendment rights and no one seems to care. Hell, there is enough disinterest among certain sects of gun owners. We see it all the time, and sadly we even see it here on TGO occasionally. Some gun owners insist that "They" aren't going to ban their guns since their guns are single shot sporting arms, or black powder, or over-under shotguns for hunting. But tactical-style weapons? Sure! Ban them. No one needs to own those types of guns! No, I'm not giving up on my rights. I'm just not going to pour time and energy into this idea since it seems to be a non-starter. But thanks for jumping in here to criticize! As for the other things posted... the idea of cards to leave behind seems a bit confusing to me. Is the idea to visit a place, deposit a card and then leave without doing business with them? How many people are really going to take the time to do that? Or do you leave the card after you've done business with them as sort of a "I'll never be back here again" once they've already got your money? Maybe I just don't understand the concept here.

There are some shirts on that page that really paint gun owners in negative tones. And of course the requisite chick with her finger on the trigger in their photos. Not a fan.

Just forget it. I'm pretty discouraged that we have even a fraction of people here who feel like the path of least resistance is the way to go. :-\ The rules of engagement have changed over the past 20 or so years and the Leftist anti-Liberty, anti-Personal Responsibility crowd have been fighting us using completely different, radical tactics. Yet for some reason we seem damned and determined to keep fighting the way we always have. I bet there had to have been a British commander or two during the Revolutionary War who was a bit pissed at his superiors for insisting that the Red Coats keep lining up in tight, nice, clean formations on the battlefield while the colonists were fighting using guerrilla tactics and handing them their butts. If there was, I'm starting to know how they must have felt. <-- apparently the new flag of the American gun owner.

You seem to have misread the intended purpose of a picket. It's not to cause the State to force anyone to do anything. It's to cause the business owner to reconsider his fear-based discrimination against those who wish to legally go armed while dining.

First and foremost, welcome to TGO. I see that was your first post here so thank you for signing up and joining us. There's definitely be a concerted effort among TGO members to email, call and sometimes even visit their Reps and Senators about this issue. We've made a good deal of impact on them from what I understand and we absolutely need to continue doing it. It's their right to post a sign but it's also our right, guaranteed by the First Amendment, to peacefully protest it. If they don't want our business, fine. But let's let it be known to everyone else that they don't want our business because we have opted to dine only in establishments that will allow us to exercise our right to bear arms for our protection. Owners of establishments catering to the public often make knee-jerk decisions based on popular opinion. Too many complaints about Pepsi being served instead of Coke? We'll see if we can change that. A lot of people asking for mozzarella sticks on the appetizer menu? We'll see if we can add that. People complaining about smokers ruining the dining experience? We'll support a law in favor of banning that. People complaining that they can't smoke while dining? We'll advertise ourselves as an age-restricted venue and cater back to the smokers. ... So why not make it so that they see just how many pro-2A, pro-personal protection customers are unhappy about their decision to prohibit carry because of their unfounded phobias? Writing letters doesn't help. As a business owner myself, I ignore a boatload of junk mail every day. But if I owned a restaurant and had taken a stance against HCP holders exercising their legal right (or privilege, as DaveTN calls it) to bear arms for their own protection in my establishment, and 25-50 people showed up and started picketing my business and drawing attention to my fear-based policies... I'd probably reconsider. And if I didn't, I bet other restauranteers watching from across the road or across the state on TV would. See above. Realistically, any business that opens itself to the public puts itself at the mercy of the public to ensure that money keeps coming in. If a business were to prohibit anyone who wore Ecko clothing from entering the establishment, it would by virtue of prohibiting an item also be telling a lot of young, black males to go do business somewhere else. And who could cry foul about it? They didn't say "No colored people allowed" they just said "No clothing popular among young black people can be worn here". No harm in that, right? It's the same sort of covert-discrimination that comes when you prohibit a legally licensed handgun carry permit holder from entering your restaurant while armed. Since most of us refuse to go anywhere unarmed, it's telling us that we as gun owners are not welcome there. Sure, we're welcome if we disarm. Same as the young black man would be welcome in my theoretical setting if he would just take off that Ecko jersey shirt and put on a nice Izod polo istead. Forced? No. Enlightened about the revenue they are losing? Yes.

Agreed 100%