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Can anyone recommend a shop around Kingsport?
I don’t know any of these, but this is what GunBroker has listed for within 25 miles of you….
Your Zip: 37660
Approximate distance: 0.0 miles
Gregg Smith
Gun Rack
2808 Bloomingdale RD
Kingsport, TN 37660
email: Click here to email me
phone: 423-288-9851
fax: 423-288-0274
Hours: 10:00am-6:00pm Mon-Fri 10:00am- 5:00pm Sat
Transfer fee: $20.00 plus $10.00 for background check
Approximate distance: 0.0 miles
Todd Sutherland
GUNSLINGERS
3192 East Stone Drive
Kingsport, TN 37660
email: Click here to email me
phone: 423-247-4867
fax: 423-288-8841
Hours: 9:00am-6:00pm Mon. - Sat.
Transfer fee: $20.00 + $10.00 NICS
Approximate distance: 0.0 miles
Larry Harrison
Smokey Mtn. Gun
Bloomingdale Road
Kingsport, TN 37660-7029
email: Click here to email me
phone: 423-817-2499
Hours: 10:00am-5:00pm Mon- Fri.; appointments
Transfer fee: 9.5% sales tax on purchases; $10.00 NICS plus small transfer fee
Approximate distance: 6.3 miles
Jonathan L. Carrier
Carrier Rifle CO.
921 Beechwood DR.
Kingsport, TN 37663
email: Click here to email me
phone: 423-239-5033
Hours: 4:00pm - 8:00pm Mon-Fri.
Transfer fee: $20.00 Long Guns, $10.00 Handguns, $10.00 TBI INSTA Check Fee plus county sales tax
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Approximate distance: 8.7 miles
Gene Vaughn
Thunderbolt Gun Shop
698 Bluff Road
Kingsport, TN 37664
email: Click here to email me
phone: 423-323-7853
Hours: 9am-5pm by appointment
Transfer fee: $15.00 and up depending on value
Approximate distance: 8.7 miles
Tom Cornett's
Kingsport, TN 37664
email: Click here to email me
phone: 423-323-0654
cellular: 423-416-3736
Transfer fee: $25.00
Approximate distance: 9.7 miles
Jim Lee
Jim's Gun Shop
Surgoinsville, TN 37873
email: Click here to email me
phone: 423-235-0240
fax: 423-235-0239
cellular: 423-358-0227
Hours: By appointment.
Transfer fee: $20.00 plus $10.00 NICS
Approximate distance: 10.7 miles
Michael D. Hughes
MIKEY'S GUNS
119 J.D. KING ROAD
Gray, TN 37615
email: Click here to email me
phone: 423-477-8614
Approximate distance: 18.4 miles
CROWDERS
3744 WEST MARKET ST
JOHNSON CITY, TN 37604
email: Click here to email me
phone: 423-913-9261
fax: 423-913-2307
Approximate distance: 18.8 miles
Monte's Gun Emporium Gunsmith
Johnson City, TN 37601
email: Click here to email me
Hours: 9:00am-6:00pm Mon-Fri; 9:00am-2:00pm Sat
Transfer fee: $25 plus tax plus $10 ph call
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Approximate distance: 20.8 miles
Jim Parlier
Jim's Discount Gun Shop
899 Watauga Rd. / Hwy 400
Watauga, TN 37694
email: Click here to email me
phone: 423-543-GUNS (423-543-4867)
Hours: 9:00-5:00 Mon-Fri, 9:00-4:00 Sat
Transfer fee: $20.00 and up depending on value plus $10.00 background check
Approximate distance: 22.6 miles
Olde Towne Sports Depot
207 S. Depot St
Rogersville, TN 37857
email: Click here to email me
phone: 423-272-4501
Hours: 10:00 am - 5:30pm Mon-Fri, 9:00 am-2:00pm Sat
Transfer fee: Used $25.00, new $40.00, plus $10 NICS
Approximate distance: 23.8 miles
Alan Miller
IBC
1111 Tusculum Blvd.
Greeneville, TN 37745-4038
email: Click here to email me
phone: 423-783-9900
Hours: 9:00am-5:00pm Mon-Fri, by appointment only Sat
Transfer fee: $20.00
Approximate distance: 23.8 miles
Jackie Nanney
Tusculum Repair
901 Cumberland Drive
Greeneville, TN 37745
email: Click here to email me
phone: 423-639-1311
fax: 423-639-2062
cellular: 423-470-0275
Hours: By Appointment
Transfer fee: $15.00 plus $10.00 TCIS
Approximate distance: 24.3 miles
DTS Firearms
Bulls Gap, TN 37711
email: Click here to email me
Transfer fee: $20.00 plus NICS
Approximate distance: 24.9 miles
MIKE STILWELL
GUNS R US
626 HWY 126
BRISTOL, TN 37620
email: Click here to email me
phone: 423-844-0087
fax: 423-844-0090
Hours: 10:00am-6:00pm Mon-Fri; 10:00am-4:00pm Sat
Transfer fee: $25 + $10 "NICS"
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I know exactly what I want, a Taurus 5shot .357, blued preferably, low profile hammer or hammerless. I had one before, but it went to someone that needed it more than I did at the time, and now I'd like another one. I'd love to find one used. Will be hitting the gunshow this weekend hoping to get lucky.
You understand don’t you that if you pull a gun and it doesn’t fire; Jody will be driving your Vette?
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Other than $15 and more training time what is the difference in this class and handgun carry? If you get this certification can you carry? If not, can you use the class to meet the requirements for a HCP?
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I would only intervene if a person was in “real†danger of death or great bodily harm. I would never intervene just because a crime was being committed.
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Post in the for sale or trade sections what you want.
I posted “WTB 686 4†FTF in MIDDLE TENNESSE†on several of the forums.
I got an email the next day from a guy right here in town… great price, done deal and met a decent fellow shooter.
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I know one of the players in this little drama quite well and can say in my opinion it is probably a good idea for the city to offer to settle.
Because they did something wrong or because they should fear an attorney?
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Things like this make sure racism stays alive and well.
It’s determined that the city did nothing wrong but the minorities and their attorney’s still need a payday.
This should be defended at all costs. Knuckling under to racism just insures that it will thrive. Paying off allegations of racism when it does not exist will have the same result as paying off terrorists. Goes to show.... we have a legal system; not a justice system.
Franklin wants to settle firefighters' discrimination claims
By KEVIN WALTERS
Staff Writer
FRANKLIN - Aldermen agreed to spend $450,000 plus attorneys’ fees to settle the racial discrimination lawsuits filed by black firefighters against the city of Franklin.
Aldermen voted 5-1 Tuesday to make the settlement offer and would cover "reasonable attorney's fees" as set by the court, according to the motion.
Alderman Dana McLendon, who is a criminal defense attorney, voted against the settlement offer.
City officials said little about spending the money. Franklin Mayor Tom Miller, City Administrator Jay Johnson and McLendon all declined to comment.
In 2005, several black firefighters filed complaints against the city alleging they were denied promotions, that requirements for promotions were changed to benefit white firefighters and that top city officials did not hire enough minorities.
The Fire Department was cleared of federal charges of racial bias after a U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission investigation found no discrimination violations.
However, Hendersonville attorney Andy L. Allman, who represents firefighters Greg Baltimore and Ricky Cotton, filed civil lawsuits U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Tennessee in Nashville against the city last year alleging charges of racism.
City officials demoted former deputy fire chief Todd Horton in June after he admitted that he took home firefighters’ evaluations being sought by attorneys in the case.
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070711/COUNTY090101/70711024/-1/RSS05
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Now, how 'bout a nice old-fashioned caliber war!
Only girlymen use 9mm’s. Real men use .45ACP.
That is all.
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I wonder what the apllicability of the Terry stop is to a CCW holder.
It should be no different than for any other citizen. A permit is a privilege; not a right.
The officer is to have reasonable suspicion of a crime, right?The standards are so low that almost anything he says the Judge will buy. It’s like needing PC to stop your car because the cop has a “gut feelingâ€. Any well trained cop can have PC in a couple of blocks of following you.
There are officers that frisk and disarm solely based on the citizen possessing a CCW.How many times has it happened to you? And I’m not asking that to be a smart azz, my state did not allow carry so I have no idea how much this happens. In the cases you know of what reason did the Officers give? Is there Tennessee case law on a Police Officer stopping a person because the Officer sees a gun?
My question would be, what is the CRIME that the officer is REASONABLY suspicious they are commiting, other than being a LEGALLY armed citizen?In my state if I stopped someone I had to be prepared to answer that question. But I didn’t have to answer it to the person I was stopping and I didn’t have to answer it right then. (Certainly I would give them an explanation in most cases; when I have my weapon pointed at them and I am disarming them is not one of those cases.)
I am just thinking out loud here, and do not mean to imply that officers shouldn't stop and question "suspicious" activity, however, I think this ruling opens the civilian population open to potential abuse of police power. It's a slippery slope, as they say
Some people will always believe their forth amendments rights are being violated. Our founding fathers used the word “unreasonable†for a reason. A Police Officer that needs wide latitude on the forth amendment to stay alive and a private citizen that sees stop and frisk as a violation of his rights will never agree. Police Officers have the very basic right to stay alive. So far the courts have recognized that; I believe that is exactly what our founding fathers would have wanted. I am the first to agree that there are bad cops out there. But if you think they are bad now, what do you think you will have if the courts decide that your privilege is more important than an Officers life.
Interesting you bring this up... IANAL, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn ExpressI am just thinking out loud here..,
Not only did I not sleep at a holiday inn last night, but I don’t know Tennessee criminal law. But let me do some thinking out loud.
Let’s say that you believe you are being stopped because the Officer saw your firearm. But in reality the Officer is stopping you because you match the description of a guy that has just shot three people to death in the parking lot of a gas station.
I do however know Illinois law. So let me throw this out in case any of you are like the lady that decided to carry her firearm in Illinois. You can be as innocent as the day is long but most Officers are not going to have any discussion with you until the threat to them is over; that means you are being disarmed.
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Frequently, the police will observe somebody who needs to be checked out. That is the purpose of a stop and frisk, which has many different names: a field interview, a field inquiry, a threshold inquiry, or just routine questioning. Terry v. Ohio (1968), an 8-1 decision with only Justice Douglas dissenting, gave police the right to temporarily detain somebody if there are specific articulable facts leading a reasonable police officer to believe a crime might be occurring. This standard is known as "reasonable suspicion," although some people call it articulable suspicion or more than mere suspicion. It is not necessary for the officer to articulate or identify a specific crime they think is being committed, only that a set of factual circumstances exist that would lead a reasonable officer to believe that criminal activity is occurring. Note that arrest, search, and seizure require probable cause, or what a "reasonable person" would believe. Stop and frisk, by contrast, requires what a "reasonable officer" would believe. Reasonable suspicion is one step below probable cause and one step above a hunch.
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I carried for years, but when I moved to Tennessee I didn’t feel the need to get a carry permit. Seeing more and more of these stories is changing my mind.
These guys that start shooting over an argument and start shooting in road rage incidents need to die right where they stand.
“An armed citizen killed the suspect†needs to be included in all these stories.
Maury County man wanted in double shooting
Columbia Police are looking for an attempted murder suspect, a man they are calling “extremely dangerous,†according to Columbia Detective Jeremy Alsup.
The suspect, who police believe to be Sederick Tremaine Armstrong, opened fire on three victims Saturday night at about 8 p.m. in the parking lot of a Shell convenience station on West 7th Street in Columbia, Alsup said. The suspect and the victims were involved in a verbal argument when Armstrong, 21, shot Buford Oneal Brady, 36, and Stephen Blackwood, 24, both of Maury County.
Brady and Blackwood were both taken by helicopter to Vanderbilt University Medical Center where they underwent surgery, Alsup said. They are now both in stable condition. A third victim, Frank Henson, 21, of Maury County, was not injured.
Armstrong, who is from Maury County, is a black male with black hair and brown eyes. He is 5-feet, 10-inches tall and weighs about 175 pounds. Police believe he is driving a 1999 silver Chevy Camaro with the license plate number 932 DNB. He is wanted on three counts of attempted murder and one count of reckless endangerment.
Police ask anyone with information to contact Detective Alsup at (931) 388-2717.
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070708/COUNTY04/70708006/-1/RSS05
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I haven’t refuted my point. From your posts I doubt you know what my point is.
Economics isn’t rocket science.
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Good Lord you guys are depressing.
Everything that sells is not based on how cheap it is. If it was we would all own Hi-Points, Chevrolet and Dodge would never sell another Corvette or Viper, we wouldn’t have big screen LCD or Plasma TV’s, and all you firearms instructors would be out of work.
American manufacturing can’t compete on price… period. With the mindset me have in America right now (I don’t care where it’s made as long as it’s cheap) by the time your kids or grandkids enter the workforce you will have destroyed their economy for them. They will look you in the eye and ask “How could you have been so ignorant?†Dumb azz excuses won’t work. It is not the fault of foreign workers and our government can’t help. The responsibility for our economy rests squarely on the shoulders of the American people.
I have to believe that something is going to happen to turn things around. I try to do my share.
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Good idea… the “Rolling Rock†thing.
Let me first say that I did not read all six pages of this thread, so someone may have already posted this.
I believe that everything in life is application driven. “The best†for anything will depend on your application and the desired result.
If we are discussing “the best†handgun round we would need to define what our desired results are.
Here are some possible desired results……
1. Make a hit render a bad guy unwilling or unable to fire his weapon at you.
2. Make large wound tracts, making sure he bleeds out.
3. Show good ballistic numbers when shooting through gelatin or wet phone books.
4. High velocity numbers on paper.
I was trained “Stop the threatâ€. Three words; everything else is secondary. His death, would tracts, velocity, bullet size, bullet energy, bullet placement, and collateral damage… bla ..bla...bla. Everything is secondary to making him unwilling or unable to fire his weapon.
For over 100 year’s one handgun round has been the undisputed king of this requirement. Other rounds may be used for other applications or desired results.
The fact that you can’t handle a .45, that it’s a hassle to conceal, that it is heavy, that it costs more to shoot than a 9mm or that it doesn’t hold as many rounds as a .40; are legitimate reasons for you to step down to the second best.
Shot placement…. For those guys it does not matter what caliber they use. If you can repeatedly, under pressure, with adrenaline flowing to the max make head shots; caliber is kinda moot. Having been there, done that and having the T-Shirt; I can’t do that.
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Governor OKs toughest migrant-hire law in U.S.
Napolitano cites inaction by Congress
Matthew Benson
The Arizona Republic
Jul. 3, 2007 12:00 AM
Gov. Janet Napolitano on Monday signed sweeping legislation against employers of undocumented workers, targeting the state's market for illegal labor with what she called "the most aggressive action in the country."
The penalty for violators: the suspension of a business license on the first violation and permanent revocation on a second, amounting to a death sentence for repeat offenders.
"It's monumental. It's a change from anything we've done in the past," said Speaker of the House Jim Weiers, R-Phoenix. "It's time for the states to start stepping up and stop waiting for Congress."
The law takes effect Jan. 1, significantly raising the stakes for more than a quarter-million undocumented workers believed to reside in Arizona and the businesses that employ them.
Between now and then, Napolitano hinted at calling legislators back to the Capitol for a special session this fall to amend flaws in the bill, including a provision that could force the closure of hospitals, power plants and other critical facilities if they're cited for making illegal hires. Her other concerns included "woefully" inadequate funding for enforcement and the lack of a non-discrimination clause to ensure it's enforced fairly.
Napolitano's signature comes just days after the failure of a comprehensive immigration-reform measure being considered by the U.S. Senate. She again lamented that proposal's collapse and blasted Congress anew in saying Arizona could no longer afford to wait.
"We're dealing somewhat in uncharted territory right now - uncharted territory because of the inability of the Congress to act," Napolitano said. "The states will take the lead, and Arizona will take the lead among the states."
But opposition to the new law was swift, led by Latino activists and the business community. Eight minutes after the governor's announcement that she had signed the bill, the Arizona Chamber of Commerce issued a statement calling it "a crippling blow to Arizona business."
That opposition coalesced in a Capitol hearing room where critics vowed a fight.
"We have five months for the business community to rally and come to the table and demand that the House and Senate come back to the table and work on this bill," said Mary Rose Wilcox, a Maricopa County supervisor and Hispanic activist. "People are just incensed about this. This will be disastrous for the state of Arizona."
A legal challenge regarding the constitutionality of the new law is already in the works.
Phoenix employment attorney Julie Pace said that challenge will assert that Arizona has overstepped its authority by moving into the arena of immigration law. The U.S. Constitution gives power over immigration policy to the federal government.
"I will make a prediction that sanctions will never be imposed because they can't ever become workable," said Rep. Ben Miranda, D-Phoenix. "It will never be implemented properly. It will never function."
Beginning Jan. 1, all Arizona employers will be required to check the legal status of their employees through a federal database known as the Basic Pilot Program. The accuracy of that database and its ability to handle 130,000 to 150,000 Arizona businesses that will now use it has been questioned. Napolitano sent a letter Monday to congressional leaders asking for improvements and federal investment to ensure Basic Pilot is up to the task.
But the day was one of relief for those who for years have asked for a set of state sanctions against businesses that dabble in illegal labor. Perhaps chief among them is Rep. Russell Pearce, a Mesa Republican who sponsored the bill and was at the forefront of numerous similar efforts in the past.
"Anyone worried about this bill ought to be worried about their hiring practices," said Pearce, who called the measure "the toughest yet fairest employer-sanction law in the country."
An even stricter set of employer sanctions waits in the wings, led by a citizens group that hopes to get its proposal on the 2008 ballot. That measure, which would revoke a violator's license on a first offense, loomed over the development of Pearce's bill and was again noted on the day of its signing. The hope among many lawmakers is that the new law will short-circuit an initiative some consider too drastic.
"The main concern is you've got an initiative out on the street that's growing momentum every day," Weiers said. "If it goes to the ballot, I suspect it'll win overwhelmingly."
The new law has problems of its own, Napolitano conceded. She has already spoken with Weiers and Senate President Tim Bee, R-Tucson, about the potential of a special session. Bee said he was open to the possibility. Weiers noted that any changes would have to be scripted in advance.
Issues that Napolitano says need to be corrected in the new law include:
• Insufficient funding for enforcement.
• Overbroad language that could cause a chain of businesses to be penalized if a single location was cited.
• Lack of an exemption to ensure that critical facilities such as hospitals don't have to temporarily close their operations if undocumented workers are found among their staffs.
"For an immigration violation for hiring a nursing aide, are you going to close down a nursing home?" Napolitano asked.
Observing that "this is not a doorway for discrimination against anyone," Napolitano said she'd like lawmakers to add a non-discrimination clause to assure residents that they won't be targeted based on their race or ethnicity.
Those problems aside, Napolitano said she viewed it as better to move forward with a new law than back to Square 1 next session with a veto.
I don’t know if this will work or not but I applaud the Governor for trying.
To Julie Pace I would say that while all other Law Enforcement Agencies in this country and been taxed to their limits; Immigration has either sat on their hands or thrown them up in the air and said they can no longer enforce our laws.
It would be sad if a legal ruling would stop a state from protecting itself against illegal immigration while the Feds refuse to enforce the laws they swore to uphold.
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A class that stressed the fundamentals of shooting would be of no interest to me. Waste of time and money.
That is what I wanted to post but I figured the training peeps would jump all over me.
I would like to take a class that would fulfill the requirements for carry; but I don’t need any firearms training. I would like to take the class where the instructor is someone that is well versed in the letter of the law about carry laws, civil law, and the statutes governing the use of deadly force. 7 hours of law and then go crank off 50 rounds to qualify.
I guess the perfect carry class would be one where a highly qualified firearms instructors taught the firearms side and a representative from the State Attorney’s office (maybe a volunteer) taught the law side.
I’m not really interested in hearing from someone that has less criminal law experience than I have reading statutes and giving me their interpretations. And I certainly don’t want to pay for that.
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Ported handguns look good in photos. After all, who cares how it shoots as long as it looks good in pictures.
BTW… I’m a Toolmaker maybe some of you would like your initials ported into your barrels.
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Well, why don't they come out and support us then?
They do support us. Many restaurant owners are carry permit holders. I only know one restaurant owner and he is pro gun and pro carry.
Why don't the owners of Applebee's come out and say the TRA does not represent their views on this issue?Have you asked the owners of any restaurants? Applebee’s is a national chain, I doubt they want to start making political statements on any issue they don’t have to.
I suspect the restaurants don't give a **** about our rights as long as they don't assume increased liability.You don’t have a right to carry a gun in a restaurant, if Tennessee did away with the liquor/carry law; you still don’t have a right to carry. So this isn’t a rights issue.
Absolutely they are looking out for their liability, as would any business or homeowner.
I have said many times that if you want to carry whever you like; you have to have legislation that frees the business owners from civil responsibility for something you do. I bet as soon as you get that through; you will be able to carry anywhere you like.
If I owned a restaurant (or any other business) I would not feel strongly enough about something that your state does not even recognize as a right to put my family’s business in jeopardy. If I did feel strongly about it, I would put up a sign welcoming permit holders….. after all you would be the one getting arrested; not me.
Sorry I just don't buy this restaurants as victim deal.Between the smoking ban, the firearms ban, and you suggesting a boycott I would bet many owners would disagree with you.
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Marswolf that’s like when you see someone claiming that cops support gun control because of something “The International Association of Police Chiefs†or ‘The Teamsters Union†said. Most members of the IACP are administrators, not cops; they have a political agenda. I guess now that the Teamsters represent Metro cops they can now start making statements about what cops support.
Restaurant owners are just regular people like the rest of us. I want their support. Just as the bars that will fold because of the smoking bans; restaurants are the victims here.
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I don't think the objective is to become the enemy of the restaurant industry...
Let’s hope not; they are not your enemy.
it's to educate them on a portion of the market whose interests are affected by their stance on the subject.That isn’t education. You are suggesting an attack (Boycott) on restaurant owners that don’t have jack to say about whether or not you carry in their establishments. It’s a knee jerk reaction against an innocent party because you are pizzed that someone wants to limit your carry privileges. Problem is you have not properly identified your target.
You are indeed correct, at present, the majority of our efforts should be towards legislation.Find legislators that own restaurants and boycott those specific restaurants.
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I don’t support that idea. You are targeting the wrong group. I don’t think restaurant owners are against you carrying. It’s a guns and liquor issue with your legislators.
Causing any other group to be “the enemy” does not make good sense.
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Oh, and I love living in a free state! I came here from IL so having rights is nice
I too am a transplant from IL. Been here about 10 years now and love it.
Illinois is death on guns (pun intended), but hopefully one day that will change.Another Illinois transplant. 9 years for me.
(TGOFIA) Tennessee Gun Owners From Illinois Association.
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Anyone own one?
As best I can tell from the literature they are manufacturing all the components and assembling their rifles in Nashville. It appears they import the handguns.
I plan on buying 7.62 AR in the near future. They don’t offer one, but I’m just checking out manufacturers. Buying locally would be great.
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What prompted MNPD members to join the Teamsters Union?
When I first heard that I thought it was a joke. As a former LEO I just can’t comprehend Police Officer joining the Teamsters.
Illinois is death on guns (pun intended), but hopefully one day that will change.
Re-Bluer?
in Handguns
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I use Todd Watts in Christiana (Murfreesboro) His phone number is 615-895-4020, the last email address I had for him was libertytree@peoplepc.com.
He reblued a S&W Model 19 for me that came out beautiful.
Good Luck