deerslayer

Same here--I used to despise Glocks, but I've come around over the past few years. For my purposes, they simply work better than anything else. I'm with ya--no manual safety is an asset for me, but a liability for others. It all depends on what you like. Downside? If you are careless with guns, the Glock is not for you. If you like to pull the trigger before you get it unholstered, go get something with a manual safety and a heavy trigger, perhaps even a Master lock. Also, the sights are an industry worst. I don't care one way or the other, because whatever brand I shoot will have a set of Ameriglo sights on it (narrow tritium front/wide black rear). And when will they ever dovetail the front? As for the "Glock Nation," no group is as irrational and unreasonable as 1911 owners. Their guns jam and they buy new magazines and tinker with their extractors and change recoil springs and curse when they still jam, but then swear that their guns are unbeatable. The Glock and SIG guys just laugh at them.

I don't think he's ever shot with us.

I was 10 down on stage 3 the last time I shot a classifier.

Simple, proven design, ultra reliable, highly accurate, great trigger (light enough to shoot accurately, heavy enough to be safe), lightweight, huge aftermarket. For the price of a decent lunch, a monkey can turn a Glock into a 3 pound trigger target pistol or a 12 pound trigger lawyer-proof service weapon in less than ten minutes. They are definitely not perfect, but I've never shot anything better, and I've shot just about everything. Older Glocks had larger chambers which led to blown up guns, but the newer ones have chamber support that is similar to many current designs.

sad but true.

I'm definitely no expert. I agree with the rest of your post, though.

It is definitely beneficial.

You're exactly right, I agree with you 100%--that's my point. He starts out by saying if you have a gun in your face and they demand your wallet, give him your wallet. On the other hand, if an attack is imminent, here's what you do... I think's it's silly to mention "if you determine an attack is imminent..." I'm with you--a gun in my face is the same threat, whether they say "give me your wallet," or "I'll kill you." I bet that many instructors feel the same way, but feel obligated to throw it in there at first to satisfy those who would criticize them for even teaching how to take away a gun. BTW, I took Krav Maga for about a year, and I've shocked many friends with the technique shown in the video. Would I try it for real on the street? Hopefully, I'll never be faced with that decision.

The only problem is "knowing when the attack is imminent." I think many instructors throw that in there just as a liability-type safeguard.

Robbie, you don't count. Nobody else shoots SIGs quite the way you do.

LOL, true.

Now that is just dumb.

Rangemaster in Memphis would be well worth the drive.

[quote name=mhouston5;94191Unfortunately' date=' there are a lot of people that are idiots. I don't think 8 hours of the CCL class was even close to adequate for the average civilian. All it takes is one untrained person to have an accidental discharge and kill or maim someone and the gun control people just have another example to smear all over the liberal media. Not to mention, I don't want anyone in my family to be the unfortunate victim of such an incident. What would be wrong with at least 24 hours of training before passing a CCL? If it made everyone more competent and safe wouldn't that be a good thing?[/quote] I also have mixed feelings on this. I've been at carry permit classes and seen people who didn't know how to load their guns or what a decocker was used for, and I'm thinking, "wow, by the end of this day, they will have completed all of their training required to get a permit? I hope I'm not in range if they ever get into a shooting situation." Maybe they'll get additional training, but most don't. It is their responsibility to do so, but that does not mean they will. Being a responsible parent is one's duty, but it's safe to say that it doesn't always happen. I have wondered how the state could require additional training, say your typical school's first level advanced class (usually marketed as the next step after permit class) without becoming a fiasco. The state-mandated course is usually, but not always, a mere formality.

+1 unless he eventually plans on gaming with AND carrying the 19.

same here.

Hmmm...mozambique drill, IIRC, is two to the body and one to the head. Not sure what mozambique-style carry is.

Just imagine if we knew each othe in person:stick:

We get a little lax with proper range commands around people we know and shoot with all the time. Instead of saying "Face downrange and load and make ready," we may say, "Ok Joe, load 'em up." Probably not a good idea, but the formal commands are always followed around new or unknown shooters.

Hmmm...just because something costs more does not mean it is always better. I also hate long double action first shot trigger pulls and long resets. 9mm ammo is much cheaper, but I sometimes worry about its future availibility if Clinton or Obama gets elected. One of Bill's favorite ideas was to ban or heavily tax the most common types of ammo used in crimes, and, you guessed it, 9mm was always right up there. Instead of switching everything to one caliber, I plan on keeping .40 and 9mm around, kinda like not putting all my eggs in one basket. The Glock trigger is very similar to an M&P or an XD. When you draw, don't touch the trigger until the gun has cleared the holster and is pointed downrange, and it won't matter what you carry. Trigger safeties and grip safeties don't help a bit if the shooter pulls the trigger before the gun leaves the holster. As for reholstering without snagging your shirt, this is solved by simply looking before reholstering. my $.02.

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Nah...the 27 conceals more easily, and it doesn't shoot those .177 Crosman pellets you use.

I think we all know where he was going--same place as usual.

Is Glock-bashing the only way you can still get a woody?