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Good to hear. I'm confident in the iron sights and the bore scope after much tests, but I'm very concerned about the slide moving enough to throw the crimson trace laser built into the gun off by as much as 3" at 9yds.

OK I figured out the issue with the laser changing sides. It's the slide.

I picked up a Sight Mark from Bass Pro Shops tonight because I put new Ameriglo sights on and needed to have a second reference besides grouping. It seems to agree with the iron sights and the CT laser both as far as level, but I can lay the gun over and smack the side and change the left to right alignment of the borescope laser and My CT laser from left to right. This sort of made me worry about how accurate it is. I'm sighting at 25 feet because that's about where I shoot targets at and because that's where Smith sighted the original iron and CT laser at from the factory. I was happy until I noticed the movement left to right. What are you guys experience with the borescope lasers as far as ACCURACY? I know people complain about the battery life and quality of the lasers..... I don't care. Just need to know I'm sighting accurately. Any experience with them?

Got to play with one at academy today. It's a lot lighter on every thing than my shield 2.0 but I don't have any issues with mine so needs to be reviewed by someone it's made for. There was a review today by Jerry.

It's cheaper than what mine cost, that's for sure. I figured if they ran a $25 sale and mossberg had a $25 rebate that would save ammo money. My S&W was $180 off Black Friday with combined rebates and sales together. Academy took it from $479 to $349 then the S&W rebate was $50. It helped a bunch combined together. He's 20 so any ammo money is good ammo money.

My fiancé is looking for her son a new Mossberg® Maverick® 88 12 Gauge All-Purpose Pump-Action Shotgun for Christmas and nobody is running any sales yet. She was going to go tomorrow and just buy it at full price, but I told her there's no reason to when the Christmas sales are about to kick in. There is always a dead zone between black Friday and Xmas sales and we are in the middle of them right now. Every year retailers run the same sales so I'm curious if anyone remembers last year who was selling them and for what?

I think these are pretty photogenic edc’s. No crazy appeal of a tactical, but nice to look at. I added a Talon grip to it and front sight is red now. Clickable thumbnails:

Thanks fellas. Signal

Responsibility over false reality. Do people need protection from themselves? Yes. There’s a reason for every safety warning label - someone caused it to be there. I support these checks and balances because I’ve seen people slip. I think it’s needed for a large majority of people. Do what you’re supposed to do as you are supposed to do and you eliminate the uncertainty and need to lie to yourself to keep from blowing your toe off. Responsibility. I support the message and due to any unforeseen and uncertain factors (people touching your stuff, lapse of judgement, not having a system in place) i think it’s a great safety message. I don’t like lying to myself, i prefer accountability. I’m not proposing people go about unsafely, more so the message is very similar actually. Do your checks and balances before it can become an issue. Have a system. I work with oxygen acetylene Torches (welding and fabrication). Together they are more violent than gunpowder via molecular reaction. 6400 degrees vs a couple hundred degrees from a gunpowder reaction. You can die quickly if you screw up. 24 hours a day they sit side by side safely until you bring them together. A system is in place to keep them apart until it’s time to use them. The same system I use to keep ammo away from my gun until needed. This works for ME. Your circumstances may differ. People who work with deadly materials all day (not just having a gun) have a different approach to things. Most people don’t have a system. You need a system, and you need to be serious about it.

My personal rules are pretty failsafe, but I don’t carry daily - only for sketchy craigslist deals. When I’m home i keep an unloaded mag in the gun and a loaded mag beside it. If i need it, it’s there. These things don’t run on hopes and dreams, they run on ammo. If there isn’t any ammo it’s just plastic and steel. Might as well be a remote control or a coffee cup. It’s just something i do to always know the gun is never loaded. I have the luxury of that because there are no kids around and the old lady doesn’t touch it. I can be loaded in 3 seconds if the alarm goes off. It’s still much faster than running across the room for the long gun. There are no exceptions and I’m never too busy to drop the mag and clear it when i open the door and walk inside. For carry, I chose to have a manual safety model and it’s a 1 motion event when I grab the handle my thumb hits the safety if i choose so it’s not slower in any way. That’s thanks to the excellent design of the S&W M&P Shield 2.0 so I have that option. That, added to the hinged safety trigger, I’m pretty confident. Accidents can happen, should i fail to do my routine and checks that are in place. That’s why I simply eliminate the possibility by keeping the hot mag out when I’m home - zero exceptions.

Wonder if they fixed the stovepipe and live ammo eject of the 380. They haven’t fixed the 380 so maybe they’ve been working on making sure the 9 is correct. For me, Shield 2.0 all the way.

Waves..... S&W M&P 2.0 w/crims Found this forum via an M&P forum. Nice to see y’all