sigmtnman

Well, I for one will sleep better at night knowing that you are unable to groom anyone to death, dats82.

*IF*  it were a false flag event, I'd be more likely to posit that the event actually happened, but was executed by an agent provocateur.  With this scenario, it would explain the lack of injuries as the agent would undoubtedly be a trained sharpshooter, or perhaps even multiple shooters carried it out.   It could also explain the questions regarding the response operations.  It would take significantly less "in the know" participants to control the flow of the situation.  Historically this is how false flags were executed.   To suggest that it never actually happened makes it easy to write of questions as "crazy conspiracy".     All that said.  I got no input or clue as to the actual events as I never paid attention to it and we don't get "tv" so I never saw any news coverage.

No idea about Sandy Hook as I ignored it and the associated media circus.   That said...  I'd blame our own .gov for folks questioning if things are false flag events or not.  They are the ones who perpetrated the gulf of tonkin incident and came up with Operation Northwoods after all.

  but: a word used to negate everything stated before it. 

  Many of us do believe this, if they uphold laws that violate the Constitution...  Mortgages be damned.

Everyone always thinks of the minority as a group of people.   "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." - Ayn Rand

:squint:  :rofl:   If Ukrainians Had More Guns, we wouldn't be talking about If Ukrainians Had More Guns?

you may want to read that again consider whose perspective is the minority

unfortunately I do know what you meant. government controlled freedom...

'restrained liberty. lol

  Your incessant bashing of folks who disagree with you is not rational.  Where does your feeling of superior mental capacity for rationalization come from?

Hey Dirty Gun,   I don't have any info for you, but I was born there at Manatee Memorial and I still have kin around there.   Good luck with your reloads.

  Dude, I don't take issue with how the fellow raises his kids or how anyone else does.  It was joke and you are being overly sensitive about it.  My distaste of the federal school system has nothing to do with how folks raise their kids.  But, I don't buy the whole,   ______ is impossible to do because of ______.  That is a self defeating cop out.   That said, many people don't know that most private schools offer scholarships (often full rides) for folks who can't afford the tuition.

This may sound like blasphemy, but I was finally able to try some Pappy 15yr the other night at Hennen's in Chattanooga.  It was distinctive, but I can't say it was better than Weller 107.  Even if they carried the same price tag.    That said, I'll definitely give it another go if I see some and I would like to try the older varieties as well.   Oh, and if anyone knows where to get some Weller 12 anywhere around Chattanooga or Knoxville, please let me know as I've been wanting to try some.

  The emos have the depression part down. 

That's absolutely moronic.    But, the school system is doing what it was made to do.  Create short attention spanned, workers who are obedient citizens.   We've talked about it before.  The US school system is based on the Prussian education system.

  May sound cliche but where there's a will there's a way.

  Most humor is not funny to everyone.  Sure I don't blame the dad, but If you play with fire, you get burned.  I'd put the federal school (in most places) in the same category.   We starved for a number of years while my wife home-schooled our kids because we could not afford private school, so don't think I don't understand.

Function over form.  Understandable.  BTW,  I was just messing with you, but I think you knew that.

Guys, I'm getting wet over here.  :rofl:

  Come on.  They knew damn well what they were doing and the judge is nothing more than a rubber stamp / dog and pony show.

  Believe me, I blame my neighbors and I blame anyone else who is not madder than hell about it.  I especially blame those who make excuses for it saying it is "legal"

  Well, I reckon since everyone is a potential terrorist, it's ok to spy on everyone?   https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/how-it-works   How on earth is this not a conspiracy when multiple people worked in concert to violate the Fourth Amendment?  The conspirators are the judge(s), the NSA, Bush, Obama and anyone else who was involved whether directly or indirectly.

    Not speaking for anyone else.  Sure, there is no causal evidence of connection and I'm not saying they are related.  I'm saying the fed.gov and some states.gov have gotten to where they just don't care any more and have the potential to further surprise and schock me.

  I agree they were not "conspiracy theroies" although people who thought it could happen before it got out, were labelled.   With secret judges making secret decisions about spying on US citizens without due cause,  I 'd say it is in fact a conspiracy (multiple participants).  The public was not aware of it.  The DHS request for bid on the tracking database was pulled and declared a "mistake" when word got around.