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First I will say I don't like CCW/HCP badges, but I don't think it is because anyone earns a badge. LEO's have a hard job and trainging to get that job, but a badge is simply a form of indentification that goes with their job. So in that same regards a CCW/HCP badge is form of identification that in no way in-and-of-itself should be taken as impersonating a LEO. I think they are a bad idea for the simple fact it lends creditabilty to the idea that regular, everyday citizens shouldn't be armed. That you should have some special type of indetification.

I haven't. I have a friend that has bought a couple of cars of http://www.govdeals.com though and got some good deals.

That is correct. Class B I think. Punishable by a fine of up to $500. If you carry in a place with a properly posted sign per 39-17-1359. As far as other places off limits by statute some are Class B & A misdemeanor (alcohol for onsite consumption and parks), Schools and rooms where judicial proceedings are taking place are Class E felonies. Not sure what he could have meant by a civil charge. Here is an AG Opinion that talks a little bit about signs.

Actually you don't have to retreat anywhere that you are legally. The difference when it comes to your home, car, a dwelling and as of tomorrow your business, is that you are presumed to be in fear of death or serious bodily harm if someone forcibly and illegally enters those places.

I agree on being in the car to use.... The key word is "within' © Any person using force intended or likely to cause death or serious bodily injury within a residence, dwelling or vehicle..... As far as threating deadly force, that has been discussed before. IMO I feel you can threaten deadly force to protect property although you can't use it. I would only do this on my property, not in public or other's property. Other's whose opinions I respect have disagreed. Sub-part © says you can not use deadly force, but does not say you can not threaten it. Sub-parts (a) & ( both say you can threaten the degree of force necessary.

Apparently several do as often as he is brought back up.

The law really doesn't say they have to be on a leash only that they can not run at large. 44-8-408 Also might check the law that deals with civil liabilty of the owner. 44-8-413

LOL...ok by me.

I agree.... However as of now it is still illegal in TN to have a loaded gun in your vehicle without a HCP.

This may be the one you're thinking of.... It sort of reads (to me) like if you kill just for the sake of killing it then its illegal. If the dog is charging you, even if you aren't truly in danger, but thought you might be, it really wasn't your sole intent "to deprive the owner of the right to the animal's life". You had intentions of saving yourself. There was a case in Lexington where a guy's dog got loose from his yard and went into the yard of neighbor. The neighbor had two dogs. The guy trespassed to get his dog from the neighbor'd dogs and during all of it ended up shooting both dogs and killing one. He was charged with trespass and the killing of the dog. But in the end the judge dismissed all charges. Not to say all judges would do the same though. I really thought the guy should have been found guilty myself.

The only place it seems to mention agents responsiable for the security of the business is places that serve alcohol for onsite consumption. 39-17-1305. In general it is illegal to carry a loaded firearm in TN period. 39-17-1307 There are defenses to 39-17-1307 in 39-17-1308 One of which is a HCP 39-17-1308(a)(2). Another is if you are at a list of places in 39-17-1308(a)(3)(A)-© which are a persons- place of residence; place of busniness and premises. It does not seem to say a persons place of employment.

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Others have covered Opry Mills so won't go there. The genreal rule of thumb is.... If place is improperly posted you do not break any law if you carry there, however if you are made you more than likely will be asked to leave. If you don't leave you can be charged with criminal trespass. If a place is propely posted however and you carry there, then you have broke the law at that moment, even if you are not asked to leave.

You have to have a HCP to carry a loaded firearm in your car. You may be thinking of the self-defense law that says you are presumed to be in fear of your life or great bodily harm if someone tries to break in to your car (while you are in it) just like your house. The law will change to also include your business (effective July 1) as places you are presumed to be in fear of death or great bodily harm. (See HB3509 that passed above) However HB2632 did not pass and the legislature is adjourned until January. As far as carry by others employed at a business I believe that is true that they can't without a permit other than it would seem employees are allowed to carry without a permit in places that serve alcohol for onsite consumption if it is their job to protect people or property. 39-17-1305©(2) says you can carry "On the person's own premises or premises under the person's control or who is the employee or agent of the owner of the premises with responsibility for protecting persons or property." (Note this applies to places that serve alcohol for onsite consumption only)

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I agree on the if you feel threatened and it can't be avoided shoot. But I would add that IMO it could be harder to justify shooting a dog in his own yard than one on the street. Of course it's better to be healthy and around and to worry about that than dead or in the hospital for sure.

Not bad at all....I'm not where I can now, but there are few releveant AG opinions that can be refrenced as well. One think I would slightly correct... You acutally still can be sued, but as long as it ruled justified, you are supposed to prevail with the person that sued you also pay your lawyer fees, lost time from work and any other expense incurred in defense of the suit.

I agree with db99wj. As long as you stay on the State Highway there should be no problem. I work at DOD facility that has a State Highway going through it, the guards have no authority on the state highway.

Is that a public park? If so....he is sort of right. The law (39-17-1311) does say that have to be posted, but then it goes on to say the authority responsible for the park can exempt itself from having to post.

I saw the same video on TruTV a while back. She came in and cut into line. Then they say the guy said something "smart" about it to whoever he was talking to on his cell phone and that is what caused her to go off and all the rest.

No problem...it can be a little confusing at times.

I was talking about county courthouses in the part you quoted. I think most federal couthouses and buildings are posted, but admit I'm not sure if they have to be by federal law. But even they are not off limits by TN law. On post offices, here is an answer for Handgunlaw.us

I see what you're saying...