Jonnin

My understanding of it is that if the individual sends a stolen or flagged gun (and it could be legit with and old/bad database entry on the police side) that when the FFL checks it and sees the red flags, they are stuck between a rock and a hard place (cannot sell it, cannot return it, have to give it to the police leaving the buyer and seller BOTH out in the cold). This was not explained very well, but that was the gist of it when I asked a guy who refused me the service. Thats on top of being unable to return it as above.

Ok when people resort to putting words into my mouth the discussion ends for me. You guys go ahead and talk for me if you like.

My point was, it could have been you that sold it to him, or me, or anyone. Not a fence, or a crook, just another guy here who took a trip to the show, sold his gun to another guy face to face as is often done. What if it had been then you saw his picture on the web, and it was YOUR gun that did it? And the reason for the whole mess? $50 in fees from the FFL and BG check. Would a change stop theives, fences, and such? Of course not. But it would be a tool to allow folks to do a sale with more confidence. That is all I was really getting at.

Then only do the half to remove the fee so its at least a viable option to do the paperwork. Currently, its not even a realistic option to get the buyer checked out.

Wifes glock 19 came with 2 10 rounders, ban era. A week later I bought 2 15 round pre-ban mags. Ban cost me like $50 extra bucks, and thats all it did was line some guy's pocket a bit. Pointless and stupid.

hes a felony convict. However he got his gun, it was illegal and whoever sold it to him made a mistake. If it was a face to face, he could have lied to the person, but that does show the flaw in TN gun laws (allowing face to face trades without a check). Part of the cleanup that needs to be done is to make face to face transfers FREE at dealers or the police dpt or someplace, so the proper background check can be done for FREE to ensure that the buyer is legit. Both sides win: gun owners would appreciate free checks, and gun control freaks get to feel better that guns only change hands after a check. If a dealer at the show sold it to him, it should be investigated. If its a face to face, nothing they can do.

Looks like we all missed each other, we dropped by SD for an hour around 5. Very nice looking gun, I love my MK II.

Ill take one in a nice color if it comes that way. Im not spending $200 ($100 for the job and $50 to ship it both ways) to get a custom job done, more important ways to spend my money.

To make a point. One commonly used practice to protest something is to do exactly that, to blatently go against the rule as a political statement. A peaceful demonstration, so to speak, so long as the gun is not used by anyone in a threatening manner. I cant say that I approve of it, but that is the idea.

Supply and demand is perfectly natural, IMO. I was referring to same caliber inflation (9mm was $10 a box, now its $13, for example) though. Primer prices is certainly not driven by the materials. Possibly insurance or hazard or other things (including greed, but not the materials. Copper and gas/shipping are the materials that are going up in cost, and maybe lead to a smaller extent. If you think about it we can make a box of 380 ammo for under $5 a box and that is paying profits and taxes and fees and so forth, at retail prices. So a manufacurer can make it for $3 or less per box, probably. It sells for $18 a box, thats huge. Supply and demand, coupled by the willingness of people to pay, is behind that sort of markup --- as you said. They are, essentially, out to get rich and people are willing to pay the price, so prices remain high. They justify any increases in price off the tiny increases in raw materials value, but in the end, its driven by profits of course.

Nevermind the open carry stuff, his assumption that anyone with a long gun (unless in hunting garb) is a nut job is insulting. Perhaps you are on a shooting sports team, your kid is with you, and you want to grab a book to read because you know the kid will be bored after about an hour of watching guys shoot at paper. Maybe you just bought it a the gun show and stopped into the place for whatever. Maybe you are making a point in a none to subtle way about your 2nd A rights. There are thousands of reasons the guy could be harmless, and just as many reasons he could be a nut. I would tend to think, though, that a guy with a long gun pointed down and not being "brandished" (whatever that really means) is more harmless than the guy up the street with a zip gun in his pocket waiting for me to pass by in hope of getting my wallet... no matter what, you can see the idiot with a rifle and he stands out and everyone in a 50 yard radius is aware of him and his actions. The guy with a pistol in his pocket, the first anyone knows of it is the gunshot sound, and it takes them another few moments to even figure out WHO has the gun and where it came from, by then 3 or 5 people are down.... much worse scenario.

The price of gas (shipping) is rapidly outdoing the price of copper, but both are high enough to make ammo prices go up somewhat. Its nothing to panic over, but expect to pay more each year, just as you pay more for gas, food, and everything else every year. Ammo is nothing special that can ignore the inflation and other factors, as every other item we buy goes up, ammo will be right there doing the same things that other goods are doing. No need to panic, but as the stuff keeps, if you have extra money, buy some up to save money long term isnt a bad plan.

discover on the internet, is the key. Garbled "fake" number cannot be used by any other business, so if stolen it trips a red flag right away and is declined automatically. Your real CC number is never given out. And you get 10 cents back for every million you spend too, what a deal =)

Every decade has its surplus rifle of choice, and its always the same answer: cheap, lots of ammo (also cheap), 10's of thousands dumped onto the market, etc. These are good rifles, to be sure, but when they run out and some other obsolete gun is sold in bulk, the story will repeat. At the end of they day they are exactly what you said (typical surplus BA gun) and also what others said (one of the better typical BA guns with various things going for them).

Just do the whole thing with one method or the other. By hand will be more even and a better job with less damage, the dremel will be much faster but can lead to taking off too much metal or uneven surface if you hold it in one spot too long. The dremel is almost going to force you to go the wrong direction when you polish it, due to the shape of the device and the shape of the ramp. I strongly recommend doing it by hand but if you just want to get it done, use the tool carefully and it will be ok, just be extra careful not to hold it in one place longer than other areas, etc.

If you shoot the gun enough it will self polish. What you have is a steel ramp behing slammed by copper/lead which is much softer than the steel. It takes a long time for a softer material to wear away a harder one, but it does eventually happen (thousands of rounds to polish a very rough ramp). Polish will not hurt the feed ramp and many kel tec owners do this right away to prevent issues... for the reason you gave, its a carry gun. Polish does not mean grind; Polish means polish. I use diamond dust on these jobs, but anything that leaves a mirror finish that you can look at under magnification and cannot see the scratches from the work done is good enough. To be extra sure, polish it in the directon of feeding so that any scratches or uneven material are not making "rings" or grooves in the steel that cut into the bullet jackets during feeding (no matter how tiny). When the micro grooves (if any) are in the directon of feeding, they create less friction and problems.

My 223 "AR" pistol is legal to carry, in my car or whatever, loaded and ready to go. Thats really the only point to the thing, is legal extra firepower. I do not carry it normally, but I may toss it in the car: that jerk with the vest that killed the cop was inside 2 mile radius of my home. A full sized semi auto rifle loaded and ready to go in your car would be frowned upon. The ruger 22 LR is exactly the same as the 10/22 in a smaller package and can be used anywhere a 10/22 would be, survival gun, plinker, long range target pistol, cheap lead spraying, etc.

The powder disks are not that complicated. Its a round disk with drilled holes in it, you get 5 or 6 disks each with 6 or 8 or something holes. You pick a hole, put the thing together (easy, just 2 screws with hand tighten nuts on them) then take an empty (but primed, or not yet deprimed!) case & hit it with powder, dump it in, hit it, dump it back in, about 5 times (as was said above, you want to "prime" the powder stuff to get past the unstable initial loads). Then weigh the charge a few times to see how much powder your selected disk hole is giving. Move up or down until it actually matches your load data. You have to take it apart to change disk settings, its a bit messy as this will leak some powder each time, hold it over a bucket or something.

According to the news the BG's bullets shattered, so they must be exotic (what? Any bullets can shatter hitting steel as it said they were shot into steel) ... it didnt make a lot of sense. I am wondering if its one of those little armor piercing 5.7 caliber guns? It went thru a 1/4 steel wall, so they said, but that could be a number of normal gun types. I think that is what they are going to find, a high velocity pistol of some sort, 22 mag, 5.7, maybe a hot 357 sig load. 7 shots so it wasnt a standard revolver. No one seems to have seen the second gun. I don't expect home-made AP ammo, but you never know, its always possible. Suspect had on a vest as well. What a mess. Poor guy thought he was unarmed and tried to do the right thing with a taser... makes it worse somehow, if possible.

The 10 most segregated urban areas in America - War Room - Salon.com As I expected when I clicked on this, it references the south (making a reference to jim crow laws and such) then moved on to tell us that all 10 of these citys are NOT IN THE SOUTH. So us gun totin' bigots with our jim crow laws and racist ways are not even in the top 10, not even good ole' atlanta made the cut. Not really news, but always good to see us not living up to our reputation. Note that it does not slam on the south, just mentions it as what you think of when you hear about segregation, its fair enough.

You misunderstood entirely. I said it would be great if every shooting got that level of response, not that this one got too much, I *never* said it was too much. And, you agreed with me, and I agree with you: its human nature, and they gave a better response for that reason, enough said.

They do not want my help, I do not have the patience or disposition to be a cop, you have to be nearly a saint to put up with the crap they do. I have no problem with the job they do in general and appreciate their hard work very much -- the recent crackdown was a great start toward cleaning up the city a bit. And I still say that a 24 hour (roughly, last I heard they were still there this morning) shutdown of the entire block with some 20 cops is the biggest response I have seen for a case where the shooter was in custody (and about normal for cases where the guy is on the run and they are looking for him). My neighbor was attacked in a home invasion (no one was killed thankfully, but still) and we got 2 police cars worth of response that lasted about 3 hours. That is what I would call a typical response to an armed robbery.

Best way to get to sleep after that for me is to try to stay up doing something sedate and boring like TV, reading, web, or a slower paced video game (chess for example). Next thing you know you will be dead tired and off to bed again.

There is an inactive (one post a week sort of place) one for the tri state area (s TN, n GA, e AL). Mostly it has gun show stuff or folks trying to sell locally. Tennessee-Georgia Shooters Board For what its worth.

By the way, make sure you ordered a bracket for your mail order primer tool: This will not fit a Classic Turret Press unless another bracket is used to mount it, the bracket is available from Lee Precision, their TP2699. If you want to attach it. That is the one I am using by holding it up, click, set down approach.