Marswolf

From http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/16079. Americans Reject Stricter Gun Control June 12, 2007 (Angus Reid Global Monitor) - More people in the United States believe their country’s current firearm legislation should remain untouched, according to a poll by Rasmussen Reports. 49 per cent of respondents believe there is no need to introduce stricter gun control laws, up 12 points since mid-April. The U.S. Constitution’s Second Amendment guarantees Americans the right "to keep and bear arms." Some American states have enacted their own gun control regulations, independent of existing federal legislation. On Apr. 16, Cho Seung-hui killed 32 people—fellow students and teachers—at the Virginia Tech University campus in two separate incidents, before turning his gun on himself. The shooting is the deadliest of its kind in American history. 40 per cent of respondents believe stricter gun laws would have no impact on the rates of violent crimes in the country, while 37 per cent think tougher legislation would foster a reduction. Over the past two months, almost 4,000 Americans have joined Students for Concealed Carry on Campus (SCCC), a group of gun-rights activists who advocate for allowing licensed gun owners to bring their arms to school campuses. The group believes this prerogative could prevent new episodes of school violence. Andrew Sugg, head of the local chapter at Baylor University in Texas, said the group is "pushing for states and schools to allow licensed faculty, staff and students the right to carry concealed (weapons) on campus," adding, "Looking at the data I’ve seen so far, (banning guns on campus) does put us at more of a risk. (…) When you look at all the school shootings over the past several years, they’ve all happened in gun-free zones."

Well, you can't sell the exact same stuff for much more than your competition. You have to find other ways to increase sales rather than raise prices. If he does better at shows, that doesn't say much for the way he treats his regular customers. I've never met Jason. I only know Doug.

That's way high. Pick one up at Gunslingers or call Mike at Top Notch (423-323-6638). He'll probably match their price or come close. I bought my latest one there. Think I paid $250. Mike also came to the last Kingsport shoot. Nice to do business with people who support us.

I've heard some good things about this course.

I don't normally do this, but I did a thread on another board detailing the differences between the 1st and 2nd gen P3ATs. Too long to copy here and it has some graphics links that would probably be a pain to transfer. So... check out http://www.hk94.com/hk/Bought-a-replacement-Kel-Tec-P3AT-t21370.html. Then come back here. If you can get a good deal on the 1st gen, then it is fine, but the 2nd gen is a better gun. There are several changes. I use Remington FMJ and Hydra-Shoks. There are some comments about that in the other thread too. BTW, call Mike at Guns R Us in Bristol (423-844-0087) about the holster. I don't know if he has another in stock but I've bought three from him. The last I bought had a $31 price on the bag, but I got it for less than $25. But I'm a good long-time customer and this was the third one I've bought from him, plus all my other Hume holsters and a few guns. Unless things have changed, dealers normally get a 40% discount, so that can be your guide. That puts dealer cost, including shipping in at around $20. I'd say he will knock off a few bucks from list, but not as much as he did for me. If he doesn't have it in stock you can probably expect a month or two delivery time. Hume is an odd company.

I like the 24/7. Perfectly good choice for carry.

I just see no justification for forcing taxpayers to keep people in prison for life who can never be allowed to rejoin society. To me, that is immoral. If I'm going to eliminate a penalty, it will be life imprisonment. Commute all of those sentences to death and eliminate some expenses.

Unfortunately, you can only vote for people who will run. That's not quite correct, but is as a practicality. NO voters had a choice between Nagan and his corrupt opponent. Great choice. The problem is getting good people to run.

This was in Bristol, TN. "I shot the f------ cop. I shot him in the face. There’s no need to go in there. He’s dead..." Bristol Tennessee Cop Killer gets death Compiled by Lewis Loflin Updated April 11, 2007. Cop-killer Nikolaus Johnson, age 28, appeared before Sullivan County Judge Jerry Beck in December 8, 2005. Over two and a half years later, his murder trial is set to begin with jury selection in April 2007. The fun started almost from the first minute as Johnson accused the Sullivan county sheriff's deputies of brutality. Sheriff Wayne Anderson strongly denied this. Johnson also tried to fire his attorney for among other things asking for a mental evaluation of him, claiming they won't listen to his side of the story, won't visit him in jail, or take his phone calls. Judge Jerry Beck wasn't having any part of it. Johnson has been so disruptive they've threatened to gag him. Johnson is accused of ambushing Bristol, Tennessee police officer Mark Vance in November 2004 shooting him in the face with a .357 magnum. Vance was responding to a domestic disturbance call over Johnson getting his 17 (at the time) year-old girlfriend pregnant. (It's reported she had triplets.) Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty. To quote a local news editorial; "Johnson’s case has been set for trial two previous times – in November 2005 and July 2006. His lawyers asked to delay the trial both times so that Johnson could receive mental evaluations. The defense is expected to contend that Johnson was schizophrenic at the time of the shooting...Vance, 30, was shot at point-blank range in the head as he climbed the stairs...Johnson, a former gang member and convicted felon, was caught on a police cruiser audiotape admitting that he killed Vance..." and http://www.timesnews.net/article.php?id=3754860 Killer of Bristol officer sentenced to death Published 04/28/2007 By DEE GOODIN BLOUNTVILLE - Two years and five months after he shot a Bristol police officer in the face with a .357-caliber Magnum handgun, Nikolaus L. Johnson, 28, of Bristol, Va., was sentenced to death on Friday. Mark Vance, 30, a full-time officer with the Bristol Police Department for only 18 months, was killed within seconds of entering a residence on a domestic call on Nov. 27, 2004, Thanksgiving weekend. While the jury took little more than an hour and a half, including lunch, to find Johnson guilty of first-degree murder on Tuesday, deliberations during the sentencing phase of the trial took much longer. The jury had three options: life in prison, life in prison without parole, or death. The jury returned its verdict at 4:50 p.m. Friday, but after examining the paperwork Circuit Judge Jerry Beck directed them to write the verdict in accordance with statutory requirements and sent them back to the jury room. By 6 p.m., jurors were back in the courtroom. They again said Johnson's previous conviction on malicious wounding and the fact he had killed a law enforcement officer who was performing his duties outweighed all of the favorable testimony his family and friends had given on Thursday. Vance was responding to a domestic call involving a man threatening a woman with a gun on Belmont Avenue when he was killed. According to testimony, Johnson said that if he were going back to prison it would be for murder, not statutory rape. He also said he would kill the first person to enter the home, whether it be Walter Mitchell, father of Britney Mitchell who gave birth to Johnson's triplet daughters, or a police officer. According to testimony, Johnson became enraged after the girl told him she had not terminated her pregnancy as she had led him to believe. After court was dismissed on Friday, Bristol Police Chief Blaine Wade said, "We're satisfied with the verdict. But it's sad it won't bring Mark back." The young officer's mother, brother and several friends were in court throughout the trial's three-week duration. Vance's daughter was 6 when her father died. "From what we see as a lack of remorse, it was the only sentence the man could receive. It's a tragedy for both the Vance and Johnson families," Wade said. Asked to comment about the verdict, Jim Bowman, Johnson's court-appointed attorney along with Stacy Street, said, "Conscientious citizens made a conscientious decision. But it's a shame we continue to believe that violence is the answer to violence." BTW, Johnson's cousin killed a police dog during a robbery a couple of years before this incident. Great family.

I haven't had any dealings with them either. I hear their sessions are enjoyable. I know their owner James Yeager is a bit controversial.

I don't know about Kentucky, but in Tennessee, the dog wouldn't have to step in your uncle's yard before action could be taken. Under Tennessee Code, as soon as the dog steps off of its yard the owner is in violation of the law. 44-8-408. Dogs not allowed at large — Exception. — It is unlawful for any person to allow a dog belonging to or under the control of such person, or that may be habitually found on premises occupied by the person, or immediately under the control of such person, to go upon the premises of another, or upon a highway or upon a public road or street; provided, that this section and § 44-8-409 shall not apply to a dog on a hunt or chase, or on the way to or from a hunt or chase, nor to a dog guarding or driving stock, or on the way for that purpose, nor to a dog being moved from one (1) place to another, by a person owning or controlling a dog; provided, that the foregoing exemptions shall not apply unless all damages done by dogs therein exempted, to the person or property of another, shall be paid or tendered to the person so damaged, or to the person's agent, within thirty (30) days after the damage is done. [Acts 1901, ch. 50, § 1; 1903, ch. 419, § 1; Shan., § 2853a4; Code 1932, § 5086; T.C.A. (orig. ed.), §§ 44-1408, 44-8-108.]

It seems to me that we could set up a system that would eliminate the appeals in some cases and would act as a deterrent. Suppose we let a jury come back with a verdict of guilty with no doubt and deserving of the death penalty. This would just be for those cases where no one else could possibly have done the crime. Lots of witnesses, absolute DNA evidence. That sort of situation. Then if the judge agrees, the defendant is led out of the courtroom and immediately executed. None of this technicality stuff. Give him a speedy trial, find him guilty and execute him. We had a trial here recently that would apply. The BG said he wanted to kill a cop. So he got into a domestic dispute with his under age pregnant girlfriend at her folk's place and when the cops came, he point blank shot one of the officers in the head, killing him. Lots of witnesses to the shooting as well as his earlier pronouncement. He was guilty beyond a doubt. He is now on death row waiting for appeals or judge Nixon to commute the sentence. Why not just take scum like this out and eliminate them? Save the taxpayers a few bucks and eliminate any possibility of his escape and further criminal activity.

I agree with them on drugs and, like you, disagree with them on defense. It's none of the government's business what they smoke. As I say, small non-busybody government.

It would be hard to beat the P2000SK. Very nice trigger and firing system. But the P3AT works fine in casual carry as a primary weapon. Might want more if you are planning to confront a street gang.

On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Centrist (44). On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Strong Conservative (86). Very simple. I want the government to be as small as possible and for it to stay out of our personal lives. That staying out of others personal lives applies to all of you as much as the government. I don't care if you are big or small.

We could get into a lot of religious posts about one person's beliefs as opposed to another's, but that wouldn't be very productive. Might I suggest we keep this discussion on a reasoned level as opposed to just stating our beliefs or quoting religious text of our choosing?

Building an upper receiver really isn't difficult. I did one years ago without instructions. The wrench I used was simpler than the one they show. Just a Mil-Spec Barrel Wrench.

Being honest, I've never seen a well designed study that concluded that capital punishment deters murders. But I don't care. There is no reasonable and rational justification for allowing Murdering slimeballs to breathe while society has to pay for their upkeep.

And the only good advice he ever listened to. Joe Hero, glad to hear you stock Don Hume holsters.

Thought I'd go ahead and start a topic for the July meet and shoot. Third Saturday will be the 21st. We back in the Tri-Cities for this one?

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The holster is a Don Hume 002: Hip Pocket Style . For some reason not many gun shops carry them. Like Macho, I've tried other holsters and keep coming back to this one. I also use their holsters for my urban open carry and IWB use. Phantom6, I haven't shot a Seecamp but have a friend who has one. He likes it, but he practically stole it from someone who needed some quick cash. I know, as you say, they are a bit picky about ammo, although Seecamp has expanded the list of acceptable ammunition. The price has come down some into the possible purchase realm if you want a nice mouse gun. One thing that bothers me is the supposed service life on the Seecamp handguns. According to one review I read, service life on the .32 is 6000 rounds and 2000 rounds on the 380 Auto. Assumedly someone told the writer those figures rather than him just making up something. Larry Seecamp doesn't quote a life on the 380. He just says that the rumored 1000 round life is a misunderstanding but he doesn't say what the life is. What he actually says is that he quit firing his test handgun after 1000 rounds because his hands were sore and bleeding. I think that's sidestepping the issue. He also says the guns can be rebuilt. Hmmmm.... Of course you aren't likely to be firing any of the little guns a whole lot. Still, that life bothers me. I also know they suggest replacing the recoil spring on the 380 every "few hundred" rounds. In fact Larry had to do that at least once during his 1000 round test. While the Seecamp is significantly shorter than the P3AT and a quarter inch less tall, it is thicker, less flat and heavier than the Kel-Tec. I'm big on having flat concealed carry handguns. Thin is good too. But that may be a function of how I carry. To be honest, I look almost strictly at function in any of my working guns. So a Seecamp probably isn't for me in that capacity. But there is certainly nothing wrong with having a quality premium gun that you can be proud of. After all, I bought a Wilson Combat. But I normally shoot the Rock Island.

I agree. I understand why it it technically DA, but the reality is that it works like SA.

If I can prevent only one injury from the Angel of Accidental Leg, Butt and Hand Death that is a Glock, then the sacrifice of my 1000th post shall indeed have been worth it.