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Dolomite, That is awesome. It was just a "what if" type of thing while I was work, but it is great that someone else has had the same idea and done such wonderful research with such a cool round. I might have to look into this project a little further.

Yeah, I guess I'm being pre-judgemental. I used to own a Tok, but have never fired a CZ52, just held them.

According to the link Garufa posted beaver can be taken at any time with any weapon on private land

I was sitting here wondering if anyone ever has, or if it's even possible to convert a 1911 to shoot 7.62 Tokarav ammo. It's fairly cheep ammo and puts out some good numbers. I want to take advantage of those pluses, but just don't like either the Tok itself or even the CZ52. What do you guys think

Garufa, Thanks for the links. It hadn't even occured to me that there might be some legal issues, but it appears I'm good. As to the other posters...hehehe My neighbor says it will have to be around dusk, but a spotlight should help. Now what to shoot them with, 17HMR, 308, 223....decisions, decisions:drama:

My next door neighbor has some land in North Mississippi that has a rapidly growing beaver population, and he has asked me to come help him cull a few of the toothy varmints. My question for ya'll is this: is there still a bounty for beaver, and what can I do with them after I have sent them on to the great beaver pond in the sky?

I still poke fun at my wife for her "French head gear". Even her Uncle who was also a Marine calls her my "attack midget". It is funny when you see us both in uniform, me in my eight point, her in her barret.

I'm almost embarrased to admit that I have several milsurps that I've never even shot, and several more that haven't been fired in years. Need to break them all out one day and let the old girls sing again.

Thread Hijack continued.. So you missed our lovely time in Africa. Too bad. 1/23 is supposed to deploy in Dec. timeframe of this year, and they are in Texas. BTW if your wondering, I'm now the Company Gunny for H&S CO in New Orleans but live in Memphis area. When I first came off active duty and joined the reserves I was at Kilo. So if you need something or some help, just PM me Thread Hijack over

Actually, No. Here is the deal. To become a USMC sniper, you make the decision to try out for a sniper unit by going through the "indoc". If you make it you join the platoon. Once the command sees that you are ready, and funds are available you are sent to sniper school. I did all of that. However, all of our weapons are built by PWS (Precision Weapon Shop at Quantico by 2112 armorers). We deal with accurate wepons all the time, but we have no part in making them so. At most, we might be "allowed" to customize our personal weapons, such as adding single point sling addapters, different grips etc. I personally know the "techicalities" of what makes a precision weapon as such, but I have never been involved with the actual building of them. I know how to shoot them, but am ignorant as to how to build them. And absolutely no offense taken.

$850 shipped........................have to check the bank tomorrow...THANKS FROGGY!!!!!!

REALLY!!!

However, let me verify the dates. If I'm wrong, you might just see my ugly mug. BTW, here's a kick in the nuts. I used to shoot high power and had an M1a Super MAtch. When I was transfered to California, they told me I couldn't brinng it with me...Commie Laws....so being the dumb young MArine needing beer money, I sold it....for $1500..................

Damned you!!!! You would have to hit me below the belt. I will have to check, but I think I have to go play Marine the weekend of the 14th. Yeah I know I'm a tampon now. After I left active duty I decided I couldn't not wear the uniform ever again so I decided to join the reserves. Now, it never fails that the weekend something cool comes up, like a good comp and an offer for a good rifle, I have to go play Company Gunny to a bunch of Marines. As to comp guns....I'm dying to get a savage F-class in 6.5x284.

PS, what are the May dates. Maybe I can squeeze some time into my schedule. What do ya'll shoot, High Power, F-class, etc?

Semper Fi, DOC. I need to get back into shooting comps. I've only shot one in the last couple of years, and have read your posts with envy. Only problem is time and money. My wife is deploying to Iraq in January as the final unit to assist the pullout, and she (sigh) has been demanding all of my free time.

Jack, the numbers I put out there were for sustainment. During my last deployment, just to remain "proficient" I personally probably put 5000 rounds down range in a six month period. And most of that was out of my Mark 11. Plus I had several hundred "fresh" rounds available to me and my team. A combat load for us would include our regular 5.56 rounds, something like 300 per man except for the SAW gunner who carried 1000, 10 HEDP 40mm grenades for our two M203 grenade launchers, 5 15 round mags for our M9's and I carried 80 match grade 7.62 rounds for my sniper rifle, plus my ATL carried another 60 to 80.

I wasn't kidding. I took a little time off from pulling the trigger. Hell, fact is I just plum got burned out. But, hey I'm back now.

When I went through sniper school, I asked this very same question. The answer I received at the time was price. At the time the average 338 Lapua round was $5 per round, the average 300 Win Mag was $2 per round. And this was the answer I got from both the Marine Corps sniper school at Stone Bay, and when I "audited" the Army National Guard sniper school at Camp Robinson. Obviously, the Army has many more sniper rifle systems to feed than the Marine Corps. So, I see why they went/stayed with the 300. Like I said earlier, the Corps is still "deciding" but a buddy of mine who was part of the testing said the 338 Lapua was the hands down winner for the Corps, if we can ever get it accepted

The off the shelf rifles that I see and use that are near or ar sniper rifle quality are the savage bolt guns. Now remeber that the Marine Corps will not quantafy a rifle as a "sniper rifle" unless it holds a MOA or better. I personally shoot an older savage 110 tactical that will shoot 1/2 to 1/4 MOA all day long with match ammo and will group right at 1 MOA with WWB. I also shoot a Remington 700P in 338 Lapua. As to "deer" rifles.....I recently bought my wife a Ruger M77 Compact in 260 that groups about .75 MOA with 120 grain Federal Fusion. Hope that helps. If you need/want more please ask. I've been doing this for years but have been a little absent from this sight for awhile. Just now getting back into "serious" shooting.

Hey, as a Marine Sniper I feel I have a little bit of authority to wieigh in on this matter. First, we have been BEGGING for a longer range round than the 7.62 for years. The Army had a great idea years ago when they created the M24 and its ability to use the 300 Win Mag. However, it is maybe a 1200 yard cartridge at best. When I worked with the SEAL snipers, they loved their custom 300's but still wanted something more. That is why the Marine Corps is actively looking at replacing the 7.62 and the 50 BMG with a 338 Lapua M40A4. A couple of snipers I know have used the 338 Lapuaoverseas with good effect and we are currently waiting MARCORSYSCOM's "evaluation" results. However, I'm happy that the Army is retrofitting their M24's to the 300. It's better than the 7.62 hands down. As to the number of rounds ordered being an "overkill" crunch the numbers. Just to remain proficient, each Marine sniper, school trained or not is allotted over 1000 rounds per year. That equates to approx. 15 snipers per battalion, something like 20 battiolions for the Marine Corps. That's 300000 rounds just for the Marine Corps and just for sustainment. The Army has far many more snipers than the Corps.

Gentlemen, Thanks for your responses. I didn't think that I needed too many things, but I am totally ignorant as to this matter, so that's why I asked ya'lls opinion.

I am in the same boat as you. There is very little that can be done to remidy the situation. Perhaps using a set of shooting glasses that black out your dominant eye would help. One thing I have found is using a non magnified red dot does help and just keeping both eyes open. Both images are tranfered to the brain and good hits can become normal. I am Very strongly dominant in my left eye but still managed to make it through sniper school shooting right handed and right eyed only, though.

Haven't used any Emags but need to get some. It should solve the whole double mag pouch issue.