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I believe they said they can do 28" or 32". They are Clancy's Custom Woodworking in Knoxville, awesome guys. Tell them Gordon sent you.

Yeah, I bisquited them together then had a local shop run it through a belt sanding machine to smooth everything out.

I couldn't pay to get hauled off? Well here is they first boards finished from the logs. I would also like to publically thank my doctor for saving them from a burn pile.

The problem is not those with mental conditions. We have always had crazy people. Problem is they are convincing normal people that their life sucks but a little pill will fix it. And when they start taking those pills they do crazy things.

Credit card companies will issue cards to anyone these days, even a 19 year old. When my son graduated he didn't work. Matter of fact his first job was the military. Even he had zero income with zero work history he got credit card offers pretty regularly. He could have easily covered the cost of seven guns with at least one of those cards. Your credit score has no bearing on being offered credit cards. Also, if he was planning on doing this he wouldn't give a damn about his credit rating after maxing out credit cards. That Hogg kid is full of it. He was not a student there and there is plenty of evidence to suggest 99% of what he is saying is rehearsed BS. But he will be propped up on a pedestal as a hero for speaking out, just like the others who are calling for gun control.

I said the day of the shooting this will likely be the straw that breaks the camel's back. We are about to get really screwed so now, and especially in November, is the time to get pissed and vote every single incumbent out our lives. And do it every single election cycle because we MUST clear out the corrupt politicians in Washington, our very lives could depend on it. If they come after our guns we will have to make a choice, become a felon and protect yourself or give up your guns and become a victim. Those in Washington haven't listened to "the people" in at least a generation and probably two. They have enslaved an entire generation of people with welfare, they have destroyed another with victimhood, and yet another will become criminals overnight if we cannot clear out those in Washington who are career politicians. We are being controlled by a ruling party. They give us the choices, we never want, to pick from. Think about it I cannot think of an election where the majority of people I have talked to said "he is a great candidate", it is often "he is the best of the worst". We are now paying the price for voting along party lines instead of voting your conscience. They better be careful, if they try to trim too much from the tree of liberty we might just see it die.

binary triggers will likely be affected as well.

I just watched the incident. I agree the guy was an idiot and the officer would have been justified in shooting him.

I've got a phone and been accused of talking too much at times. I don't know a lot, matter of fact I probably know a lot less than most. I seem like I am smart fellow because of who I surround myself with. I learned a long time ago that a man is at his smartest when he surrounds himself by those that are smarter than himself. Anyone who thinks they are the smartest person in the room is probably the dumbest of the bunch or at least that has been my observation. I haven't seen the LivePD episode, perhaps if I had I would have felt differently. I have had a number of people who have threatened to kill me. A few I have taken seriously but never enough to shoot someone first. I was once told there is a difference between being justified on paper and being justified in your mind. And while he might have been justified on paper it is his mind that will let him know if he was truly justified. I agree you shouldn't have to wait for a muzzle flash before you can respond but just because it was justified doesn't mean it was right. From the sounds of it this officer acted exactly how he should have. LE has a tough job today and I have the upmost respect for those that do it every day providing they do it out of trying to protect instead of trying to control the community they serve. I was reading about grass the other day because our yard is a mud pit again from all the rain. I thought there had to be a kind of grass that would prevent it. And while reading I came across an article, not about Tennessee, that requires home owners to only use certain types of grass and failure to do so could result in fines and jail time. At what point have we let our government dictate the type of grass we can have and worse yet allow them to throw us in jail for planting the wrong kind of grass.

I would not worry about damaging them. It takes a lot to crack a ceramic plate and as far as the plates breaking down I would not worry about it. The only way I could think it would be a problem is if it were left out in the sun day after day or if it were stored under water.

At what point would it be justified to kill someone for making a threat unless they can act on that threat. People get threatened every single day, are we now justified to shoot someone when some lowlife says he is going to kill you because you won't give them a quarter? Insane what is being passed off as justified any more. LivePD is nothing more than the desensitizing of the population into believing that it is OK to allow the government to trample on their rights. If they ask you a question, you MUST answer or go to jail for obstruction. I watched that one pan out on LivePD. They pulled over the driver because he was in a "high drug area". They asked him where he was coming from and when he refused to answer they took him to jail for obstruction. They never found drugs or anything illegal during the search incident to arrest but he was still taken to jail. The officer briefed the camera saying he was being charged with felony obstruction for not answering the officer's questions. You have the right to remain silent but only AFTER you have been arrested. Before that you can be tossed in jail for keeping your mouth shut. A lady was pulled over for sitting in a parking lot putting on her makeup. She refused their request to search her car. They asked her if she had medication in the car, she said she did. The officers said they needed to get the medication AND search the car. She refused to let them search but offered to get the medication. The officers refused to let her get the medication to verify it was legal but held her there for like 30 minutes saying she wasn't allowed to get into the car until AFTER the officers left. The officers said the lady might pull out a gun and shoot all seven of the officers if they let her get in her car first. I have seen numerous searches started because the officer said "You look nervous". Even if the driver said they weren't nervous the officer made them get out of the car so they could search because "You look nervous so you must be breaking the law". The officer is able to tell whether the person they just met for the first time is nervous in the first 30 seconds of making contact, BS. They get briefed, as I did, in how to lead and make statements to support what you want to happen. I was idling around in a parking lot looking for a spot. I didn't come to a complete stop at the white line at the end of a row. There was an officer sitting, stationary about 100 feet away. The officer pulled me over stating I did not come to a complete stop at the white line. I told him it wasn't a stop sign. His response was that I almost t-boned him. I laughed and said he was half way across the parking lot. He gave me a hard stare and said I better be careful or I might get in trouble for trying to kill an officer next time. This all happened on private property at a local grocery store. Anymore anything a person does is "suspicious" and is probable cause to violate someone's rights. It is funny watching all the officers crowd the car looking, and peering, into the car like some peeping tom trying to get a glimpse of some skin.

Body armor is not meant to be worn 100% of the time. It is there when you need it. In the teachers case it would likely sit in a closet until it is needed. Putting on body armor that is properly fitted and proper for the individual takes seconds. There are no restrictions at AR500.com. Anyone can buy them.

Can the stock be removed? If so be careful about length because if it started life as a rifle it MUST be at least 26" overall length. Cool looking little survival gun, great work.

No need to have any IIIA soft armor with level 4 plates. Level 4 plates will stop pretty much anything man portable. And one more thing, extra cost does not equate to extra protection. Spending $1,000 on a level IV plate from one vendor will not ensure you are getting a better plate than a vendor that has one for $99 as long as the cheaper one has been tested. AR500 has been selling their armor for a very long time now, you can trust their products to be what they say they are. And one thing I would caution you about is only buy from reputable dealers. There are a lot of sellers out there that have not tested their armor. Some are proving to be inadequate for their armor rating. Some are even selling fake airsoft armor that will not stop a 22. Here is a decent level IV composite plate for not a lot of money. It is pretty lightweight as well at 7.5 pounds and is pretty thin at .75". But it costs more at $155 https://www.ar500armor.com/ar500-armor-body-armor/level-iv-body-armor/ar500-armor-level-iv-composite-body-armor-10x12.html Here is IV plate that is cheaper, $99, but the trade off is weight, 8.3 pounds, and thickness, 1". It is a ceramic and polyethylene plate. https://www.ar500armor.com/ar500-armor-body-armor/level-iv-body-armor/ar500-armorr-level-iv-body-armor-10-x-12.html Here is a lightweight level III plate that is a bit lighter than the level IV plate above. It is also cheaper and thinner. But it will probably not stop 5.56 at point blank ranges but you could back it with IIIA soft armor. The trade off would be cost because this combination would be more than most of the IV plates above. https://www.ar500armor.com/ar500-armor-body-armor/level-iii-lightweight-body-armor/ar500-armor-square-back-lightweight-level-iii.html

Armor that is going to stop rifle threats is going to be heavy or expensive. And as far as the vest itself they can be cumbersome and unwieldy unless you actually train with them and practice putting them on. An armored vest would also attract attention in a school setting. I recently remember seeing a backpack that has soft armor built in and while that won't stop a rifle round I will say you can find backpacks with pouches for water bladders that will probably accept a hard armor plate. I bet you could drop a hard plate in the backpack and have a very effective bullet stopper without looking like a bullet stopper. Plenty of places could sew in a pouch to hold the plate if you wanted something that looked commonplace in a school. I've seen Hello Kitty backpacks big enough to stick a 10x12 plate inside. As far as why type of plate I would suggest a ceramic as they tend to be lighter but they are thicker. Steel is thinner but weighs more. They do have ultra lightweight plates capable of stopping rifle rounds but they are very expensive. They even have rifle plates that actually float. Some of the polycarbonate plates are nice as well. I have used all the different types and there are benefits to each but you must weigh those against the detractors. For me, personally, I use steel because they are thinner making getting into and out of vehicles easier. I am not going to be pounding the ground so weight is not a concern if it was I would choose ceramic or one of the newer types that weigh very little. Also, do not forget about "In Conjunction" plates. They are designed to have a soft body armor backer. The plate itself doesn't stop the bullet but causes the bullet to break up as it passes through the plate. The soft armor backing then catches the fragments. These are generally lighter and thinner than level 3 stand alone plates but they generally cannot soak up a lot of rounds either as the ones I have seen were ceramic. Any armor with the letter "A" behind it, Like "3A" or "2A", is generally a soft armor plate and will NOT stop rifle rounds no matter the rating. Armor with only a letter designation, "3" or "4", is a hard plate and is designed to stop rifle rounds, providing the classification is high enough. Both types will stop pistol rounds they are rated for but only hard armor plates will stop rifle rounds. You can also use lower rated rifle plates if pistol calibers are the more serious concern. 5.56 is a very, very hard caliber to defeat at close range. And you generally want a level 4 plate to handle point blank 5.56 rounds. Some level 3 plates are rated to stop 5.56 but those are generally not tested at point blank ranges.

Since when does a declining demand equate to increased value? seems to me they are just chasing the same profits in a declining market.

An unarmed populace has a far greater threat in its government than a lunatic with a gun.

But that we be a lot simpler to fix. Require only those issued cards be able to use them and most of the fraud would disappear overnight. Announce that retailers must check IDs. Don't even need to enforce it or verify it is being done.

Another HUGE problem with putting officers in schools is the fact they are generally the least experienced and least trusted within the department. They have an officer they can't trust to be on the road and they can't fire them so they stick them in the school as a resource officer hoping they will never be called upon. They are generally the least paid of any officers as well as the least qualified. They are there only because it is cheaper than private, armed security. Privatize the security for schools and require qualifications that are commensurate with the pay increase. Children are the most vulnerable in our society and our government does everything the cheapest it can on behalf of the children. Everything the government does is done according to who the lowest bidder is. And those bids are generally overshot as well as the time needed to complete. Get the government out of our children's lives, out of their school system and quit letting them use the least qualified personnel to protect them. We have thousands of veterans who are desperate for work. They have the training, skills as well as the mental attitude to deal with situations like this. Hire them, pay them WELL and give them the tools (firearms) they need to keep our children safe. All you have to do is look to Israel to see how our society could be. Everyone there is armed, including teachers, and the only attacks come from terrorists and not from little snot nosed kids who's mommy didn't show him how to be an adult. When the #### will our leaders learn the gun free zones are free fire zones where people die.

Shooter was an ANTIFA member.

One of biggest problems is political correctness. When we, as a society, see a problem we are afraid to say something. Our kids are being taught that it is wrong to say something when something is wrong. Fellow students knew the shooter had a problem but they were too afraid to say anything out of fear of being labeled. We must stand up and say what must be said. Sitting back whispering will change nothing, we must scream and point fingers when there is a problem. Mental health is an issue but it is not as big of an issue as we are lead to believe. We have always had crazy people doing crazy things and that will never change. The problem we do have is the drugs for "mental" conditions are being over prescribed and those drugs cause just as much of a problem as the underlying "mental" condition itself. Life sucks for most people on the planet but here in the US we are so spoiled that we think we have it bad. In comes the pharmaceutical companies with a little pill that they promise will make life suck less, it doesn't. Young children are diagnosed with a disease when they show signs of an active imagination and the parents are told they MUST give those kids prescription drugs to cure their active imaginations. Most of the mass shooters have been on a cocktail of these drugs prior to going on a shooting rampage. And I bet the shooter will also be on those same drugs or at least prescribed those drugs at some point. The pharmaceutical companies, and their urge to get richer, are the ones pushing people to believe there is a mental health crisis. There are no more crazy people, just more diagnoses that require more prescription medications to treat. The pharmaceutical companies are also the ones responsible for pushing, for profit, the drugs that has caused the opioid crisis that is killing hundreds every single day. We do have a problem but we do not have a mental health problem in the United States, we have a problem with corporate drug dealers whose only concern is profits from selling dangerous drugs.

I have been saying those in need should be sent boxes of food instead of given free money. I believe it would benefit a lot of people while making it harder for those who cheat the system to continue to cheat the system. It would also ensure that those who are getting help would eat good food instead of junk food or food obviously too expensive for those getting assistance. For those who may not be aware, in Tennessee it is against the rules for a business to ask for ID to verify the user of an EBT card is the person who is issued that card. Any vendor that does as for ID can risk loosing the ability to take EBT, which is a LOT of money for some vendors. I have seen it first hand because my brother gets EBT benefits and then sells to pay for drugs. I talk to the cashiers all the time about it and they say they know the people getting issued is not the ones using it but they cannot do anything about it. Had one lady who would use her EBT card to buy packs of expensive tuna. She would brag about that fact they were for her cats and that she would continue to buy the tuna until cat food was covered by her EBT card. I see people using EBT cards to buy food that most people cannot afford to eat on a regular basis yet our tax dollars are used to pay for a lavish lifestyle for those who say they cannot afford to eat. If they would require businesses to verify the user is the one who was issued the card it would cut down on a significant amount of fraud. Hell, my ID is checked when I use MY credit card so why can't those who use my tax money be bothered to do the same. They cite privacy reasons and that it might embarrass those who are using EBT cards but if you are truly in need of EBT you would be grateful instead of embarrassed. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-wants-replace-food-stamps-114015814.html

Between National Reciprocity being shelved and the bump stock ban going forward with the leaders we have in Washington I suspect this might be the straw that breaks the camel's back. I hope not but we have a bunch of weak leaders in Washington who only want control and they might use this as the impetus to start working on gun control. Remember Republican leaders are the other side of the same coin. I seen screenshots of his FB page. He had pictures of mutilated animals. Him holding guns and knives. Definitely a disturbed kid.

Not worked up at all but national reciprocity will not fix anything. I can guarantee that if it were passed you would still be arrested, thrown in jail and have to fight it in court in states that will refuse to recognize it. Yes, you will be found not guilty, eventually, but by the time that has happened it will have cost you thousands of dollars and probably some of your property as well as your freedom. Think it won't happen? Look at Safe Passage Provision under the Firearm Owners Protection Act (FOPA). Legally speaking, if you are just passing through a state you cannot be arrested for having a gun that is against that state's laws if the gun is legal in your home state. But we see it all the time where someone is just passing through gets stopped and arrested. Even having a firearm in your checked baggage when flying can lead to your arrest because some states refuse to accept the provisions of the FOPA. We have states who admit they intentionally target cars with plates from gun friendly states so they can pull them over to look for guns. So if national reciprocity ever does pass you will have a defense from prosecution but that is not a defense from being arrested, thrown in jail or having you life financially ruined by an overzealous state. Don't forget the wording only allows CONCEALED carry in another state. It also doesn't permit you to carry on state or local government property unless the state allows you to. Who owns roadways or highways? And because it will not change a single thing why let the government interject themselves into another part of our lives. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act#.22Safe_Passage.22_provision

If BHO passed it then his followers would VIEW it as bad. That is why he waited for the Republican leaders to pass it. Then the next time we have a Democrat controlled government it will be used to harm conservatives. Our "leaders" cannot foresee or do not care how the reciprocity will be used by our enemies in government. If we give the federal government control over ANYTHING they will abuse it and use it to gain more control over the populace. National reciprocity will be used to grief gun owners but most gun owners are too worried about NOW to worry about the future. The NRA has no interest in putting ANYTHING gun related to rest. They have become a money driven organization and when there is turmoil or uneasiness in the gun community it generates profits. They could easily end the bump stock ban but they instead asked for it because they know they can use the turmoil to increase profits. Remember they called for the ban but have now said they would oppose it but need more money to fight it. If we do not send in our donations they will let it pass. Time and time again the NRA support turmoil because it increases profits and refuse to get involved with things that could actually help us. Their desires are not in helping gun owners, it is in increasing profits while risking our gun rights. We have a super majority in Washington and yet we cannot get a single piece of pro conservative or pro gun legislation passed. We cannot even get anything repealed to help gun owners. The reason why is our "conservatives" in Washington are the other side of the liberal coin. Regardless of which party is in power they will continue to pass laws to make more and more of us criminals because once you are a criminal they can control every aspect of your life. We are not free, we are told we are but we are being controlled by the government in every single aspect of our lives. There is not too many things one can do now that doesn't require approval from our government or risk becoming a criminal. We do not have free elections, we are not free to do what we want and we are not free to say what we want. Our privacy is long gone and the majority of the Amendments of the Constitution are violated daily by those in Government yet we continue to believe we are free because we are told we are free.