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As far as the difference between K-12 schools and colleges and universities, TMK the AG in addressing off-duty LEO carry is the only place I've seen a difference mentioned. See Footnote 6 of AG Opinion 09-30
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This is one time the law is fairly clear.
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The simple answer is, there doesn't appear to be a simple answer. This has been debated quite a bit before. If you noticed when you looked up the law, there are two violations of having a weapon on school grounds, one is a misdemeanor 39-17-1309© the other a felony 39-17-1309(. The difference is whether you had an "intend to go armed" or not. The intent to go armed is a felony. There is an exception for the misdemanor violation if the handgun is in a car operated by you and is not touched. However there isn't any such exception under the felony "intent to go armed" part. Some say if the gun is loaded that shows an intent to go armed and that if the gun was unloaded you'd be ok. Others feel that you can leave the gun loaded and still be ok. There are a couple of bills in the legislature now that would make things more clear. HB1806/SB1622 and HB2726/SB3756
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http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tgo-forum-support/31122-visit-limit.html
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Good deal
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Good point. The question has been answered. No real reason for further discussion or sidetracking. Becasue of a court ruling voiding the law that was passed, It is illegal to carry in places that serve alcohol for onsite consumption.
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You may have to wait 8 months (not really) but they give you the reciept you need to show you renewed right then. It doesn't have to be mailed or faxed to you.
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As others have said, it has been corrected by numerours other post.
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First of all I don't think you'd have any case no matter what, but mainly in this situation the delay on a renewal being issued does not prevent him from being able to carry. You can carry with and expired HCP as long as you can show you applied for a renewal before the expiration date. Although I don't completely like the way he says it DaveTN is correct in that in TN you do not have a right to carry in TN. It is a privilege that you purchase from the state. Unless you applied the day you turned 21 the state could simply argue that it was your delay in applying that caused whatever happened to happen. If you were truly concerned you would have applied earlier in your life. Now I'm not saying that if on a new permit it has taken greater than 90 days that you should do nothing, but I don't think there is a case against the state. But then again....what do I know...
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The 3 months is only for new applicants. The above is why most of us feel that new applicants are given priorty and can cause renewals to take longer.
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The misinformation has been corrected. No need for personal attacks. Also need to try and stay on topic.
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Don't remember how long it was, but my last renewal didn't seem to take that long. But the receipt is another reason I have always gone in person. There is a bill in the legislature now that would allow a canceled check to serve as proof of renewal. Letting your elected officials know of this delay may be something that could help this bill pass and also make it easier for those that renew by mail to show proof of renewal.
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Best website I've found with info on other states. Handgunlaw.us Here is their page on MS http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/mississippi.pdf From the above... Places off-limits SEC. 45-9-101 · Any police, sheriff or highway patrol station: any detention facility, prison or jail. · Any courthouse; any courtroom, except that nothing in this section shall preclude a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon in his courtroom; · Any polling place; any meeting place of the governing body of any governmental entity; any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof. · Any public park unless for the purpose of participating in any authorized firearms-related activity; · Any school, college or professional athletic event not related to firearms; · Any portion of an establishment, licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, that is primarily devoted to dispensing alcoholic beverages; any portion of an establishment in which beer or light wine is consumed on the premises, that is primarily devoted to such purpose; · Any elementary or secondary school facility; any junior college, community college, college or university facility unless for the purpose of participating in any authorized firearms-related activity; · Inside the passenger terminal of any airport, except that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal if the firearm is encased for shipment ,for purposes of checking such firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft; · Any church or other place of worship; · Or any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law. · In addition to the places enumerated in this subsection, the carrying of a concealed pistol or revolver may be disallowed in anyplace in the discretion of the person or entity exercising control over the physical location of such place by the placing of a written notice clearly readable at a distance of not less than ten (10) feet that the "carrying of a pistol or revolver is prohibited." · No license issued pursuant to this section shall authorize the participants in a parade or demonstration for which a permit is required to carry a concealed pistol or revolver. 97-37-17 Allows firearms in vehicles if they stay within the vehicle. (g) Any weapon which is in a motor vehicle under the control of a parent, guardian or custodian, as defined in Section 43-21-105, which is used to bring or pick up a student at a school building, school property or school function. § 45-9-55. Employer not permitted to prohibit transportation or storage of firearms on employer property; exceptions; certain immunity for employer.
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That is 100% incorrect!!!!!
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Another black eye for HCP holders
Fallguy replied to lock n' load's topic in Handgun Carry and Self Defense
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^^^What he said^^^
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Of course I didn't mean to imply that having been in similar situations wasnt' helpful. Also good point in that you will have a better knowledge of what your fight, flight or freeze response will be.
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NON-HCP Apartment Carry Question
Fallguy replied to TripleDigitRide's topic in Handgun Carry and Self Defense
First let me say IANAL!!! As far as using deadly force....you can use it anywhere in the state you are. The only difference between out in public and in your residence, dwelling, car, business etc... is whether it is presumed you were in fear of death/serious bodily harm or not. If you are inside one of the places and someone forcibly and unlawfully enters it is presumed, if you are out in public, it is not. On carry we know you do not have to have a HCP to carry on your property. So the basic question is whether the area your speaking of is still part of her residence or not. To be honest I really don't know. I can see it both ways. I live in an apartment complex as well. I feel my rent covers the parking area and other areas I use....the trouble is, then it does for the other tenants as well. So in that light the use of the "common areas" is not solely mine. But that does that make it any less mine? Now if she is actually leaving the Apartment Complex property then I think it would not be legal for her to carry for sure. -
Well....they know how they reacted in that situation. While they may do some things the same, doesn't mean they would react exactly the same in a future similar situation. Just like a woman that has given birth before.....while it may help, doesn't mean the next pregnancy/birth will be the same.
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You're here..... Can all Mods or just Super Mods still see someone on, even when invisible?
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Oops...my bad.....