Marswolf

That's really unusual. Normally we hear of the great customer service at K-T. Anything unusual about when it happened?

Snow is coming down and beginning to stick on the ground, but the temp is 34 degrees.

A gunman could permanently take their mind off of the message.

I'm with you. The guys I have coffee with (I'm the youngster of the group) always call them clips. My daddy called them clips. He was right on everything. You better not insult my daddy!

We've dropped a couple of degrees here in the last hour, down to 37 degrees. It is raining. I don't think the weather guys have a clue about what will happen. That's OK. To misquote Jerry Reed, I've got no where to go and lots of time to get there. Is it too early to have a beer? ......yeah, I think it is..... <UPDATE> We now have a rain/snow mix....Wow, it's moving to all show as I type. Still too warm to accumulate though.

Yeah, it's a bad idea to put your finger on the trigger until ready to fire. But the real world shows that even experienced people do it frequently. You have to make allowance for that. Just telling people to keep their finger off of the trigger doesn't mean that they will do it. I don't know the complete answer. Probably a combination of training and designing the gun so it isn't too easy to set off. Reasonable trigger pressures and travel go a long way toward that goal.

Still 57 degrees here.

Well, then you don't need to be here. The purpose of this board is to share information. It's not a one way pipeline.

Yeah, not too many folks out there with degrees in Electrical Engineering, Psychology and Philosophy. I guess I'm either a very concrete abstract thinker or an abstract concrete thinker. Nothing wrong with him asking questions, I just don't want our folks wasting time if there is no reason.

Not to get personal, but one of my degrees is in Psychology and I do critiques of research projects. I can't see any beneficial data coming from this rather simplistic set of questions. If this is for research, the researcher needs to learn how to do it. Where are you located. Your IP address says Canton, Ohio.

Wow, I just checked http://www.trafficland.com/city/MEM/index.html. I checked it a very few hours ago and Memphis had rain, but nothing white.

Milk.... I have about a quart left. But I did pick up a 30 pack of beer, so who cares if I run out of milk? It doesn't sound like they expect much snow, if any, here. It's supposed to finally hit freezing about 5 PM tomorrow. That horrendous looking storm front this morning just measured 0.02 inches of rain.

CornFedGreenHead, Tennessee code says: 39-17-1309. Carrying weapons on school property. — (a) As used in this section, “weapon of like kind†includes razors and razor blades, except those used solely for personal shaving, and any sharp pointed or edged instrument, except unaltered nail files and clips and tools used solely for preparation of food, instruction and maintenance. ( (1) It is an offense for any person to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, with the intent to go armed, any firearm, explosive, explosive weapon, bowie knife, hawk bill knife, ice pick, dagger, slingshot, leaded cane, switchblade knife, blackjack, knuckles or any other weapon of like kind, not used solely for instructional or school-sanctioned ceremonial purposes, in any public or private school building or bus, on any public or private school campus, grounds, recreation area, athletic field or any other property owned, used or operated by any board of education, school, college or university board of trustees, regents or directors for the administration of any public or private educational institution. (2) A violation of this subsection ( is a Class E felony. © (1) It is an offense for any person to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any firearm, not used solely for instructional or school-sanctioned ceremonial purposes, in any public or private school building or bus, on any public or private school campus, grounds, recreation area, athletic field or any other property owned, used or operated by any board of education, school, college or university board of trustees, regents or directors for the administration of any public or private educational institution. It is not an offense under this subsection © for a nonstudent adult to possess a firearm, if the firearm is contained within a private vehicle operated by the adult and is not handled by the adult, or by any other person acting with the expressed or implied consent of the adult, while the vehicle is on school property. (2) A violation of this subsection © is a Class B misdemeanor. (d) (1) Each chief administrator of a public or private school shall display in prominent locations about the school a sign, at least six inches (6²) high and fourteen inches (14²) wide, stating: FELONY. STATE LAW PRESCRIBES A MAXIMUM PENALTY OF SIX (6) YEARS IMPRISONMENT AND A FINE NOT TO EXCEED THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS ($3,000) FOR CARRYING WEAPONS ON SCHOOL PROPERTY. (2) As used in this subsection (d), “prominent locations about a school†includes, but is not limited to, sports arenas, gymnasiums, stadiums and cafeterias. (e) The provisions of subsections ( and © do not apply to the following persons: (1) Persons employed in the army, air force, navy, coast guard or marine service of the United States or any member of the Tennessee national guard when in discharge of their official duties and acting under orders requiring them to carry arms or weapons; (2) Civil officers of the United States in the discharge of their official duties; (3) Officers and soldiers of the militia and the national guard when called into actual service; (4) Officers of the state, or of any county, city or town, charged with the enforcement of the laws of the state, when in the discharge of their official duties; (5) Any pupils who are members of the reserve officers training corps or pupils enrolled in a course of instruction or members of a club or team, and who are required to carry arms or weapons in the discharge of their official class or team duties; (6) Any private police employed by the administration or board of trustees of any public or private institution of higher education in the discharge of their duties; and (7) Any registered security guard/officer who meets the requirements of title 62, chapter 35, and who is discharging the officer's official duties. [Acts 1989, ch. 591, § 1; 1990, ch. 1029, § 8; 1991, ch. 510, §§ 1-3; 1996, ch. 1009, § 24.] 39-17-1310. Affirmative defense to carrying weapons on school property. — It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under § 39-17-1309(a)-(d) that the person's behavior was in strict compliance with the requirements of one (1) of the following classifications: (1) A person hunting during the lawful hunting season on lands owned by any public or private educational institution and designated as open to hunting by the administrator of the educational institution; (2) A person possessing unloaded hunting weapons while transversing the grounds of any public or private educational institution for the purpose of gaining access to public or private lands open to hunting with the intent to hunt on the public or private lands unless the lands of the educational institution are posted prohibiting entry; (3) A person possessing guns or knives when conducting or attending “gun and knife shows†and the program has been approved by the administrator of the educational institution; or (4) A person entering the property for the sole purpose of delivering or picking up passengers and who does not remove, utilize or allow to be removed or utilized any weapon from the vehicle. In short, as I read it, a church school is a private school and just because you are not having school there at the moment but are instead using it for church services carry is nevertheless prohibited.

I tried a NAA 22 lr pistol for a little while after reading about a construction guy using one in Florida after a hurricane to protect himself from various people who shouldn't be there. From that I went to the Beretta Tomcat, then the Kel-Tec P32 and finally the P3AT. None are horrible choices and each has its advantages. I like the 380 because of it's extra punch. It is a bit snappier than the .32 but it isn't a range target pistol. I'm willing to give up comfort for the power.

With the race in Bristol next weekend, I figure it should snow about Thursday.

I have wondered about him. But he could be packing. For some reason some shops have a hard time keeping the P3AT in stock and others don't seem to have that problem.

I don't think the military is likely to go for a gun without a hammer, except for MPs.

We are just getting the rain now. We have the cold system converging on us from the northwest and a warm system from the south. All they know is that we are going to be very wet today and think we might get a few snow showers tomorrow. Weekend. Have to stock up on the beer and snacks today.

Well, technically....

A very uplifting post.

The blue tip is the SS197SR Sporting Round manufactured by Fiocchi.

Fanny packs - bleh! I'd just get a pocket pistol. Men with fanny packs are either gay or packing. By the time you got out your handgun, you would already be shot and bleeding out. As always, I recommend the Kel-Tec P3AT back pocket gun in a Don Hume holster.

Nah, if that's what you need to feel more safe then go for it. Personally, if I felt that way (I did), I'd trade it in on a different handgun (also I did).

I'm with you Cody. The idea is not to live slowly, but to live richly.

I just wonder why AP had a story with that unit in it?