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Here's the scoop... >Clip on backstraps - No backstrap = small frame, the two add on ones are naturally medium and small. Attached by a drift pin at the upper portion of the grip. I expect that there will be a ton of aftermarket support for this. >Dual recoil spring comes standard. >Little bit of a different texture on the whole gun. Looks like, but not quite, a very fine crinkle coat...but finer texture. >None of the silly serrations like the RTF >Mag release is bigger than previous generations. All and all it seems to be pretty much an evelotion of the previous guns...still has finger grooves, ets. It does say Gen4 on the side with the model number.

Congrats...after 1 or 2 times is becomes very, very easy to do. ===================================== Here is the one thing that you want to watch - Everyone who owns one of these should take note. Upon putting the bolt back in you want to make sure the firing pin crossbolt doesn't fall out accidentally. It is the 1/8" thick pin that goes through the side of the bolt (the only one there). Most have somewhat of an interference fit in that it won't fall out of the bolt, but you need to visually inspect before pulling the trigger. Once the gun is put together you should be able to see it at the rear edge of the ejection port. It has been known to fall out while assembling and tilting the gun back and forth. This bolt is what makes the gun 100% safe to dry fire in that it stops the firing pin from reaming the chamber. If it is missing it can hit the chamber and ding it enough to cause feeding problem. If this happens don't worry...you just have to buy a $20 tool to swage it back.

If I understand properly...not if you are the sole owner of the farmland (not sure if applies here) it was taken on, and you call it in to TWRA so they can add to their harvest numbers.

Yes...I am more than astute with the MK series guns and can say that the fears are way, way overstated with field stripping these guns. The reason why people have problems is that there is a "blind" (as in you can barely see it) part of re-assembly that causes problems unless one RTFM. it involves getting the hammer positioned in the "fired position" before inserting the mainsprings...there is a little stirrup that pivots on the hammer and nestles in the mainspring. You have to tilt the gun so that the stirrup falls properly into place before cocking the bolt. MKIII (3, not 2) guns are a little more complicated in that they have all that useless and stupid safety S#@t on it....MK II guns are the best ones-Lucky you. The Youtube video illustrates this perfectly. There is some merit however to the gunsmith recommendation (however silly it is) in that there are some folks who never clean their guns with no problems whatsoever....Talking tens of thousands of rounds before having to only clean the bolt face with a Q-tip. ON my forum there are several people who simply take off the grips and drop the whole thing into kerosene for a couple of days....whatever floats their boat. Watch the video and give it a shot is my vote....If you can change the oil in your car you can do this.

Amen to this! Moly grease is great stuff for slides and high wear parts. On other guns I use a 50/50 of ATF and Mobil 1. Have been using for many years and have saved lots of money typically spent on gimmicy gun lubes to buy other things.

You want it to shoot worth a flip right?....and no - good quality 7.62x39 ammo is not .308 Will it work? Yea sure...I suppose you can shoot 45 Colt or 45 acp bullets out of your 45/70 too, but that would be silly to go through all that trouble to use a bullet that isn't made to fit. Could use some 9mm bullets for your 38 special if you aren't picky either...buy why would you do that!?! But then again most schleps who are fans of the cartridge really don't care about such things and only send in the general direction of downrange.

You will likely be able to get $150 if you find the right person. They are very good guns....just millions of them in circulation.

it depends too if you reload or not...The .223 is a great reloading cartridge. The 7.62 really doesn't have the bullet choices as it uses a .311 bullet.

Yes...this is true 50+ and not otherwise restricted is and will always be C&R - Sporterized or not. You can quote all you want from other sources, but if you have proof of over 50 years it is C&R. This is in the BATF book word for word. The items you purchase using your C&R license is the only thing that goes in the bound book. If you buy a 50+ year old gun from a dealer and process it with a background check it does NOT have to be recorded. ONLY items that use the power of the 03 FFL need to be recorded. For example buying a 50+ year old gun in another state, from a 01 FFL via mail order or 01 acquisition done by giving a copy of your 03. Ths is a grey area that a lot of people are confused by....so there is no real harm in recording in the book "to make sure" - but the law does not require. if you have a bunch of old guns before you got your 03 ffl you are not required to retroactively record them.

?!?!? Um...That would be a whole family of guns...the Model 58s, the 48s, and the 878s. They are very common and very good guns.

One perk to marriage is that you can put both your names on the same card/gift. Yhat being said - you can combine your ID to justaguygirl and save on benefactor status too! Congrats!

That's awful!

My standard hunting load is a 240 grain .44 magnum SWC with 21.6 grains of 2400 powder. Can shot tens of thousands of these with no ill effect to the guns. Out of my T/C and blackhawks it is pushing a little over 1500 fps. For pigs I use a 310 grain (3....not 2) Lead bullet going 1150 fps. not knocking the design of any 10mm gun or semi-auto, but these loads would simply destroy these guns very quickly. When talking application....they (10 vs revolver magnums) can do similar things. But balistically they are not identical when you get into the relm of handloading for performance. Not even close. And it does make a difference in bowling pin and silouette matches where big, heavy bullets traveiing as fast as possible wil win the match or Bear country guns where there are more proven bullets for such targets in magnum guns. For practical self defense or range shooting the 10mm being a considerably more sane choice.

It sure looks good!

Exactly...for this reason it really doesn't do anything special except let you say that you shoot a 10mm. - doesn't have much of a place anymore. There are equal, if not marginally less hot, loads in .45 and .40 does just as good according to everything ever researched along these lines. There is another camp who says "but I can hunt deer/pigs with it." in which case as a hunting rounds it doesn't hold a light to .44 mag, .45 colt, etc. In short...unless you reload it like the original FBI load you won't get the full potential out of this gun. Even then - other than the novelty of the round itself (which is good - don't get me wrong) gets lost among the crowd. The FBI problems with recoil was not due to "girlie men" but - recoil and large size grip. If I lined up 100 TGO members to shoot a full house 10mm quickly at a 25 yard target....there would be as many poor performers (maybe more) that the FBI stats.

There is a possibility of the cartridge not seating 100%. The guns themselves may be built well, but as a rimfire they often don't get cleaned or cared for as much as a centerfire. The dirt/grit/residue can throw the gun out of spec and allow a pretty darn high pressure cartridge fire out of battery. Can have a rim blowout...causing injury or blindness. This is why it is only for semi auto versions only. The cartridge is fine, but just for single shot and bolt guns. Kinda sad too....simply because this will be the nail in the coffin for an otherwise great cartridge.

There is an order from the factory that these guns be destroyed...not fixed

There is no turn around or shipping with this gun....that is his delimma. If he sends his $300+ gun to the factory they will destroy it and send him a voucher for $200 on the purchase of the new one. The gun has been deemed dangerous and has initiated a recall (if you believe it or not) and will never be produced again in semi-auto form.

They are both good guns. So are the Winchesters. There is kool-ade on either side, but they are both solid, dependable, and represent a good value. The only caveat with the Winchester is this ---> CLICK HERE - How many parts are in stock? While you are in there do the same for the Remmy and Mossy

All that would have to have done is to drill and re-sleeve the barrel...this (believe it or not) can be done pretty easily from 1 sub $100 order from Brownells. Then again you would be taking away all of the uniqueness of that gun. So yes - This is rather easy, but you will have a hard time finding a gunsmith who would touch a knowingly recalled gun.

Here is another thing to remember that 99% of folks have no clue about. The smaller the dot does not equal the more accurate the scope. People think that a 2 moa dot is better than a 4 moa dot and so on...this is utter hogwash. You use the top of the dot as point of impact at 100, 75, whatever you are sighting in for. By doing this you have a 4 or 6 moa dot this puts the bullet 100% in the dot area in a given range (25 - 150 yards for example) - a point blank area. That is why these scopes are great for hunting or military use. If you have an astigmatism in your vision...naturally these scopes may be problematic.

Word of advise - when your wife thinks she left the curlers plugged in - you better turn around and check asap. YOU MIGHT ACCIDENTLY TEH WHOLE HOUSE!!!!!

You will never, ever hear a gun manufacturer admit that a gun blew up because of faulty design or QC problems. Even back in the day of the Gen 1 .40 guns KB'ing - it was never the fault of the gun...despite the obvious results. You know what - They were right. It was not the guns fault, but that of the ammo. Doesn't change the fact that the gun blew up in someone's hand and there was a very methodical way of repeating the problem. They learned from this and improved upon the design. Unfortunatly people in the gun world never forget anything and really, really hold grudges. Those problems are history now unless one does something really stupid. Glocks are solid guns. However Glocks are not for everyone.

Well...One wouldn't exactly expect a vendor who sells Glock products and named GLOCKMEISTER to defend the product tooth and nail. Yes - they make good products. That is a given. Do some of them eventually break? Yes. Despite popular belief - it is sometimes the gun's fault. Same for every manufacturer.

Heck....mousegunner here on the forum finally sold one for less than than of the forum right here. Other than a microscopic blem on the stock it was in practically brand new shape with matching numbers. It only took 6 months for someone to notice it after practically begging people to buy it.