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JAB, your point in the first paragraph of post #23 is well founded and i aint tryin to beat ya up. There is, indeed, a sympathy felt for this poor woman, as well as others thoroughout history, like the Kennedys. Arizona is a hotly contested state; and that was the point i was makin. There was no intent to "rebuff" but, instead, to put forth a political proposition, just as you have done. Arizona has some problems that we can begin to imagine. Among them are the problems down on the border where old time ranchers are afraid of getting killed by coyotes and drug runners; the radical La Raza movement that postulates that Kalefornia, New Mexico, Arizona, and Texas were "stolen" from the mexican people (...which, by the way, i think we can probably quibble about a bit, but not now...) and should be turned into a soverign mexican state and the "anglos' thrown out; an overload of illegals swallowing up tax dollars and overloading government services such as schools, etc, on and on. ... Arizona district 8 contains both rural border territory as well as metro areas. That always makes for an interesting mix on politics. Additionally, i believe that political control of Arizona is being hotly contested between the Nobama administration on the one hand and the republicans on the other with governor Jan Brewer. Arizona is, for the most part, a republican state. The nobama administrations goals are on trial in arizona, and it looks pretty much to me like the arizona electorate is siding with Jan Brewer. It's my observation that the Giffords elections (...two terms...) were won based on a combination of Ms. Giffords wonderful persona, her claim to be a "conservative democrat", and a ton of outside the state demorat money. All this was done to beat a homeboy who had no real political machine behind him. I firmly believe that voters are not as stupid as many of us political junkies and career political operatives may think. Americans are kind, but they also have eyes; and i believe that the average voter in Ms. Gifford's district were (...and are...) waking up. Take a look at the votes in the 2006 vs 2010 election in that district and you can see what im sayin. Another thing that is goin on here is that this particular district includes the city of Tuscon and the University of Arizona is very near (...or may be in...) this district. All this stuff came together to give a demorat win in 2006 and 2010, but just barely. RE: The Kennedy thing. I still remember when JFK was shot (...i was 18 years old...) and i remember being at home sick. JFK also had a great clarisma as well as some degree of competence (...quite unlike most of the demorats today...). He was much closer to todays "big government republican" (...think George Bush here...) than he was a democrat; and that seemed to be the norm in those days. He was a reasonably conservative fiscal conservative and was strongly pro american. In all honesty, i do not believe that JFK could be in the demorat party today; he would have to be a republican. Look what they did to Joe Lieberman. I believe JFK's manner, charm, and confidence came together to capture the imagination of the american electorate like no other figure in the 20th century in america. That is why he is so revered today. JFK's coattails and this memory (...both real and imagined...) were big enough to last for over 60 years; and that is, indeed, powerful sfuff. This "JFK" nostalga and aura; the JFK Coattails, if you will; has covered some horrible atrocities. JFK's brothers (...Teddy, RFK...) and his kinsmen that came after him were for the most part reprobate socialist pygmies; but that didnt seem to matter to the new england electorate and to the contry at large. JFK still looms larger than life in the minds of many. Hope this little epistle gives ya a bit of insight both into my little view of politics and political history. leroy

Alexander is the republican equivalent of Albert Gore Senior. He has built a diverse enough base to offend some of us with impunity. I have absolutely no use for alexander other than he is a mean-spirited and ruthless polititian when he sets his mind to it. He is a case-book study in how to defeat, completely disarm, and jail your political opponents. He decimated the old time "blue dog" demorat political machine in tennessee when he won the governorship against Butcher in 1978. He then proceeded to put his political enemies and their contributors in jail if possible. He is, indeed, a hard and unreasonable man when he puts his mind to it. I believe that alexander truly believes that he is, in fact, "...the best and brightest among us..." and, as such, he does not need any input from us "delightful rustics". That's the reason some of us get these condescending e-mails explaining some silly position that he takes from time to time. I just got one about the XL Pipeline that simply regurgitated what the deal was on the pipeline and has some baloney about a 50% reduction in petroleum use from using electric cars to boot. The good news is that you can, in fact, enrage the electorate enough to be thrown out of office. Thats exactly what happened to ole Al Senior. He voted for the infamous gun control act of 1968. He was kicked out although he was a firmly entrenched, powerful, monied, incumbent "new deal demorat" in a "new deal demorat" state. In those days, there were no republicans west of the Tennessee River at loudoun. Alexander is a bunch smarter than ole Al was, but i thoroughly agree with OS's analysis above. Let's hope that old age, infirmity, and the prospect of the grisly reaper work together to remove ole lamar pretty quickly, as he is no spring chicken. My prediction is that we will put up with him for no more than one more term; then his precious child Bill "Snozz" Haslam with ascend the throne. From where i sit, it wont come soon enough. leroy

Thanks Robert. I spent a bunch of time workin for a company that did "random parking lot searches." The company had a list of "prohibited items"; among them guns, drugs, stolen stuff, etc. ..... The real story was that the searches were not random; they were based on suspictions and tips (...or even vendettas, im sure....). Submitting to searches was a "condition of employment", so there was no question as to whether they could do a search or not. I completely forgot about the "military base" thing. It makes a bunch more sense there. Thanks for takin the time to answer. leroy

Noticed the posts about vehicle search at the NG armories. What is the basis for the search? Thanks leroy

Thanks for posting this article. There is no doubt that it is being spun by the demorats as a battle between "kindness and reasonability toward latinos" vs the "mean spirited imperialistic anglos" in arizona. Arizona has some interesting problems that we simply dont see here, and i believe Jan Brewer is doing a great job with them against some pretty serious opposition from the federal gubment. I'm with her, i think there ought to be lots more straight talk and finger pointing; it tends to clear the air a bit. I say, keep up the good work Jan! leroy

That's real shootin brother!! Sounds like the holder and the rifle are workin about as well as the purty bullets!! eep up the good work! leroy

Crimson makes a great point in the post above (...post #38, and others...). I think that one of the things that is happening this time in the republican primary is that the "rank and file" republican voters are revolting and the inside the beltway bluenoses are upset about it. I think that is a good thing. The establishment republican operatives better be careful here, or they will consign themselves to the scrap heap of history and will morph into the demorat party. The ground is fertile for a genuine conservative party that believes in smaller government, that the constitution means exactly what it says, and that work is honorable. Folks are tired of being put upon by both parties. leroy

In order to stir this hornet's nest up again, lest we forget what kind of polititian Ms. Giffords is, and to do a bit of analysis as to "electibility" based on other than her unfortunate situation; let's take a look at her history of contributors. It always gives some interestin insight in to what folks believe. I lifted this from Gabrielle Giffords: Campaign Finance/Money - Top Donors - Representative Career | OpenSecrets ... . Top Contributors Representative Gabrielle Giffords [TABLE=class: tablesorter] [TR] [TH=class: header]Contributor [/TH] [TH=class: header]Total [/TH] [TH]Indivs [/TH] [TH]PACs [/TH] [/TR] [TR=class: rowTint] [TD]EMILY's List [/TD] [TD=class: number]$165,033 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$150,108 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$14,925 [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: odd] [TD]University of Arizona [/TD] [TD=class: number]$128,550 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$128,550 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$0 [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: rowTint] [TD]Democratic Congressional Campaign Cmte [/TD] [TD=class: number]$111,483 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$111,483 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$0 [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: odd] [TD]Lewis & Roca [/TD] [TD=class: number]$57,411 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$57,411 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$0 [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: rowTint] [TD]Pederson Group [/TD] [TD=class: number]$57,300 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$57,300 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$0 [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: odd] [TD]Apollo Group [/TD] [TD=class: number]$49,293 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$41,793 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$7,500 [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: rowTint] [TD]AmeriPAC: The Fund for a Greater America [/TD] [TD=class: number]$41,000 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$1,000 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$40,000 [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: odd] [TD]League of Conservation Voters [/TD] [TD=class: number]$40,158 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$27,193 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$12,965 [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: rowTint] [TD]New Democrat Coalition [/TD] [TD=class: number]$40,000 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$0 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$40,000 [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: odd] [TD]PAC to the Future [/TD] [TD=class: number]$40,000 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$0 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$40,000 [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: rowTint] [TD]Calendar Club [/TD] [TD=class: number]$39,900 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$39,900 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$0 [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: odd] [TD]Raytheon Co [/TD] [TD=class: number]$37,600 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$14,600 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$23,000 [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: rowTint] [TD]Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers [/TD] [TD=class: number]$35,000 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$0 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$35,000 [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: odd] [TD]National Air Traffic Controllers Assn [/TD] [TD=class: number]$35,000 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$0 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$35,000 [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: rowTint] [TD]American Fedn of St/Cnty/Munic Employees [/TD] [TD=class: number]$34,000 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$1,000 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$33,000 [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: odd] [TD]National Education Assn [/TD] [TD=class: number]$34,000 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$0 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$34,000 [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: rowTint] [TD]Fennemore Craig PC [/TD] [TD=class: number]$32,700 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$32,700 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$0 [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: odd] [TD]American Federation of Teachers [/TD] [TD=class: number]$32,500 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$0 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$32,500 [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: rowTint] [TD]Carpenters & Joiners Union [/TD] [TD=class: number]$32,500 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$0 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$32,500 [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: odd] [TD]International Assn of Fire Fighters [/TD] [TD=class: number]$32,500 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$0 [/TD] [TD=class: number]$32,500 [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Just a few observations. Emily's list: Pro-abortion women. ....University of Arizona: Needs no explanation.... Demorats Congressional Campaign Committee: Again, needs no explanation. ..... About $200K from various union brotherhoods. .... ---LATE EDIT: PAC to the future: Nancy Pelosi. Noted demorat operative in congress. .... AmeriPAC: Stenny Hoyer, considently, another demorat luminary and congressman to boot. Grabrielle Giffords is a delightful, winsome, and recently very corageous woman whose politics are run of the mill demorat; depending on special interest groups and outside dollars to hold a political office. She is what she is. Being "never forgetting partizan political apparatajic" that i am; I will grant that she didnt deserve shooting. Neither did the other folks who were killed, including a child and a federal judge (....eighteen others shot, six died....). It's ok to have compation on others. It aint ok to believe that they are something they are not. There are those who say "Dear Sweet Brother Barak" (....as the great Rev. Louis Farakhan says...) is a very personable and windsome individual. That trait, while very winsome and delightful, does not erase nor excuse his political views and actions. leroy

Mike:____________ Lotta cabbage for a bunch of bullets. Cant wait to get the field accuracy reports. Keep up the good work. leroy

For the most part,; i dont believe that you can say "polititian" and "ethics" and they modify eachother in a positive way. Havin said that; i dont care what they have on the Nootie; i like him and i'll vote for him. It's obvious that both the dammed blue-nose republicans and the demorats are scared to death of him and i count that a good thing. I predict that by election time it will be "....anybody but nobama..." among real people. This election will be a referendum between those on the dole (...and those who want to be....) and those who think their stuff is their stuff and their business is their business. Newt well knows that. He is the smartest guy running (...in my opinion...) and i think he believes in what we would term non-socialist american values and governance. I think his message is great and it will overpower the negatives he may have. I say "bring on the suprizes and the half truths (...and the full truths, if there are any....). Go nootie!! leroy leroy

Forgot about this. Check it out. A noted black elected official takin about hoodlums ---- Philadelphia mayor talks tough to black teenagers after 'flash mobs' - Washington Times .... Here's what a noted NAACP apparatchik said about the mayor's stance: Interesting read. leroy

I think he is exactly right. We need to quit trying to please everybody, simply because you cant. The gang mothers and the race baters dont like this kind of message, and they are gonna squall anyway. Most people simply dont care anymore. Evidently Sheriff Hammond doesnt care whether they do or not. He is sending a message and i admire that. We need more of it. The gang and hoodlum element everywhere is way passed rehabilitation for the most part. Maybee some straight talk and a few trips to the funeral home will improve their behavior. Thank you Sheriff Hammond for telling the truth. We'll see what happens next. leroy

I think the GPSs ruling is interesting too. I believe the justices hit a home run with this one. We do not live in a police state (....yet, anyway...) where peoples commings and goings should be monitored by the gubment without due cause. Looks like the Fourth Amendment has been given a little bit more life. leroy

Here is the link to an interesting post from our buddies at Libertarian Republican Blog (.... Libertarian Republican: Mini-Watergate unraveling in Iowa: Higher-ups in the IA Democrat Party could be implicated ....) regarding a criminal investigation of a demorat apporagic (...read that consultant...) who seems to be involved in a smear campaign against a sitting iowa republican secretary of state. The accused guy just happens to work for a political consultant who is a nobama operative. The target of the smear was Matt Schultz, who just happens to be a supporter of strong voter ID requirements. This shows just how important the blocking of more stringent voter ID requirements is to the demorats. leroy

Heard on the news today that Gabby Giffords was resigning here AZ 8 seat after the great Nobama State of the Union Message. Got interested in this again and took a look at the 2010 election results. Here is the real reason she is resigning: [TABLE] [TR=bgcolor: #E9E9E9] [TH=colspan: 5]Arizona's 8th congressional district election, 2010 [/TH] [/TR] [TR=bgcolor: #EEEEEE] [TH=colspan: 2]Party [/TH] [TH]Candidate [/TH] [TH]Votes [/TH] [TH]Percentage [/TH] [/TR] [TR=class: vcard] [TH=bgcolor: #3333FF][/TH] [TD=class: org]Democratic [/TD] [TD=class: fn]Gabrielle Giffords (incumbent) [/TD] [TD=align: right]138,280 [/TD] [TD=align: right]48.7% [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: vcard] [TH=bgcolor: #FF3333][/TH] [TD=class: org]Republican [/TD] [TD=class: fn]Jesse Kelly [/TD] [TD=align: right]134,124 [/TD] [TD=align: right]47.2% [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: vcard] [TH=bgcolor: #FFCC00][/TH] [TD=class: org]Libertarian [/TD] [TD=class: fn]Steven Stoltz [/TD] [TD=align: right]11,174 [/TD] [TD=align: right]3.9% [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] The 2010 election was decided by less than 5,000 votes and less than 1 1/2 percentage points difference. Data link here: (....United States House of Representatives elections in Arizona, 2010 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ....). Remember, there is an election later this year. Gabby would have to run against a republican again (...probably Jesse Kelly....). Politics is an interestin business, even in a place like Tuscon, AZ. leroy

Glenn has his a home run here. There are those of us that believe that the good ole USA is quietly breaking up into "confederations" (...for lack of a better term ...) where like-minded folks come and settle for various socio-economic reasons. There is a reason that there is an exodus from the commie territories like kalefornia to places like texas. We have been seein it here in tennessee. Our next door neighbors are delightful young folks from, of all places, long island, ny. They are the third members of their families to move from new york to tennessee. They have 80+ year old grandparents and 45 to 50 ish uncles and aunts here in east tennessee. When ya talk to them about leavin home its the same thing. Too much government, no work, taxes too high, too much crime, sorry schools, ect. The problem that the blue states are havin is keeping their subjects at home and subjugated. It aint workin out; they are leaving, and i dont blame them. I say to all of 'em: "...Come on down, leave your socialist slave masters behind....". sooner or later, all the real people will live in the "economically free" states and the socialists will live in the socialist states. Things will get real interestin then. I think it's closer than we all realize. leroy

Just another reason to get rid of these chumps and anybody else that thinks this is a good idea; and apply the test on both sides of the aisle -- Demorat and Republican. One of the reasons that our economy in in the toilet today is this stupid socialist "envy your brother" baloney. Business (...as well as investors....)are afraid of what can come next from this bunch of idiots. Nobody is goin to invest in anything these sons of satan may choose to regulate (...and that could be anything....). Remember, there is an election this fall. It cant come too soon. Update: I forgot about this. Dennis Kuncinich is the house sponsor of this bill. He is a firm UFO believer and genuine moonbat commie. My guess is that the "Astral Overseers" on the mothership are behind this bit of enlightenment. The co sponsors are the usual communist trash from the usual places. leroy

The LED lighting thing and microprocessors are doin great (...and sometimes strange...) things to vehicle lighting. It is a safety thing. I spent a bunch of years in the construction business dodging unaware drivers from time to time. It's a dangerous business to be on the side of the road with traffic whizzin by. A human (...even a 300 pounder...) cant win in a crash with a small car movin at 50 mph. Thats the reason for the "close encounter" lighting (...by the way, i love the description....) There are several companies that specialize in lighting for police and construction vehicles that have pre-designed packages. Costs aint that bad considering what they do. leroy

Here is a great treatment of political theory and a bit of valuable stuff thrown. Enjoy! Using Two Cows to Explain the Theory of Government « International Liberty .. My favorite is this: Thanks to our buddies at International Liberty (...Daniel J. Mitchell... leroy

Folks, Robert is right about this. An incumbent, well funded candidate can be beat. Take a look at the history of Albert Gore, SR. He was a 3 term sentator from tennessee. He pilfered the pockets of tennesseeans from 1953 to 1971 (....January 3, 1953 – January 3, 1971 ...). He was rich, powerful, and well connected. He lost to a republican because of his vote for the Gun Control Act of 1968. The moral of this story. Everybody can be beat. leroy

Caster's right you know!! Welcome fellow araholic!!! Have fun. leroy

Nothin; i is retired. Useless and terribly lazy; just ask the wife. leroy

Thanks for posting this Froggy! I naturally have just stocked up. leroy

Paul:______________ Drop me a line as you get closer to finalizing this. leroy

Agreed. The important thing is that you vote. If ya stay home and say "....they all aint worth a damn....[...and many arent!!...]; you get folks like Nobama....). The reason that Nobama is president today is that most republicans simply couldn't stomach McCain. Keep up the good work. leroy