deerslayer

Hmmm...I know someone else like that.

I am by no means knocking your XD, but I hardly consider 6000 rounds to be "strain."

What happened in Bartlett last night?

nice avatar!

+1 I recently picked up a Bushmaster Carbon 15 9mm http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_carbon15_AZ9-C15R16FT.asp and it runs like a top!

WHAT IN THE HOLY HELL IS THAT?!

I still like revolvers and am actually considering a SW 442 for a CCW. I just get tired of people referring to the Miculek video when they claim a revolver can be emptied and reloaded more quickly than an auto. Yes, it technically can, but who (except that guy) can actually do it?

Whatever the case, I hope people don't start using this video to argue that revolvers are just as good or better than semi-autos. If you're Jerry Miculek, this is true; if you're one of the other five or six billion earthlings, you won't be able to do this with a revolver.

I hear ya--a .380 is better than a knife, but I bet Chuck and Tom would prefer taking four .380s over two .40s. My goal is to avoid situations where a Kel-Tec is the only thing I can carry. Right now, I can easily hide my Glock 27 about 90% of the time. The Kel-Tec is mainly used when I am jogging or when I want a BUG.

Thanks for all responses, guys.

The suspect mags need to be disassembled and inspected, since you don't know who installed the grip extensions. Make sure there is a mag insert--the small, flat black piece that goes between the spring and the baseplate. Some people leave these out when installing grip extenders. It shouldn't matter whether the mag ext. is a +0, +1, or +2--they should all run fine if they are Pierce. Also, as mentioned above, the mag follower could be an issue as well.

He also showed us a target clip (thin black sheet metal clip) that got shot with a .380. First, he showed one that got hit by a 9mm, and it had a 9.1mm hole in it. Then, one hit by a .45, and it had a .46 caliber hole in it. Then, he brought out the one hit with a .380, and the bullet just splattered against it. He said if someone is shooting at you with a .380, just hide behind a few of these clips. His summary of the .380 (exact words): "this thing is a f***ing joke!" Jeez Tom, why not tell us what you're really thinking?

I once asked Chuck Taylor about this--I was thinking the same thing: carry FMJs in my Kel-Tec instead of HPs to insure penetration. His answer? Get a J-frame. :rolleyes: I have almost decided that a Kahr PM9 or 40 can be concealed just about anywhere my P3AT can, and should be much more powerful, especially the PM40.

price?

Mine shoots fine with iron sights.

A LOT of people I shoot with (competitively) are having many issues with their Kimbers. I had a CDP and was terribly disappointed with it (no, it did not have the troublesome external extractor). Kimbers were the shiznit when they first came out, but their quality control has gone to hell, possibly due to the fact that they have grown and expanded their lineup so quickly.

I may be there, not sure yet.

same here

Draw and fire in .15? I don't think I can do that.

Correction--his first shot was .85--all the more phenomenal.

That guy was good. Using my leather thumb-break holster (my CCW holster), I can draw and fire one shot from concealment (vest) from the retention position (one-handed, gun out of holster and simply rotated 90 degrees downrange) at a target within arm's reach in about .6-.7 seconds. In 1.07 seconds, he drew from a holster concealed under an untucked shirt (harder/ slower to execute), got a two-handed grip, and shot the guy 10 yards away. I can accomplish what he did with an OWB holster and no concealment in 1.07, but throw on a vest and it adds another .15-.2 seconds. Ripping an untucked shirt before drawing? I'm not sure how much time that would add to my first shot, but it would be a lot. That guy was a pro indeed.

I can easily conceal a Glock 23 with shorts and an untucked polo; in fact, that is what I usually wear when the temperature is above 60.

Back in the 60s, my dad witnessed a guy get shot several times in the chest at point-blank range with a .25, and the guy receiving the .25s grabbed an old lady and held her between himself and the gunman. He was definitely not "neutralized." BTW, my dad said the poor old lady was "singing a tune." No kidding. I just did some training with Tom Givens this weekend, and he told a story of a shooting he investigated that involved a man getting shot five times in the chest with a .380. None of the bullets penetrated into his chest cavity, and after receiving the five .380s, he proceeded to beat the shooter half to death. Of course, you can kill someone with a .380 or a .25--you may kill them in their tracks, or they may die next week in the hospital. Your chances of neutralizing them are far greater with a .40 or .45. The trick is to figure out how to keep from leaving that .40 or .45 at home. I have a .380, and it is better than a pocket knife, but I am about to get rid of it for something more substantial. I never carry it as a primary CCW.

I'm looking for a new BUG/jogging gun to replace my P3AT, and have been considering a PM9 and a J-frame. Any thoughts positive/negative about the Kahr? I haven't shot one, but have dry-fired them, and don't particularly care for the trigger, but I'm more interested in your opinions on reliability if you have one.

unless they don't even know that they've been shot, which SOMETIMES happens when somone determined to kill you gets shot with any pistol round. A 9mm, .40, or a .45 handgun is a lousy tool for stopping a human in his tracks, but a .380 is the pits, especially when coming out of a 2" Kel-Tec.