Erich

No worries, just mentioning a couple things where reality may differ a bit. Didn’t call you a hater specially, general statement as referring to one ‘just about right’ is only works if someone is open to it l, which a hater aint gonna be. fwiw, Gen 3 G20/21 SF’s are sold new at regular cheapish Glock prices. Not hard or expensive to get. bout the same as the xDM or M&P. Yeah, I got both those too

Couple things you may have missed in your ‘decades in the gun biz’ Glock indeed offers a less girthy large frame option with the SF. Ideal is the RTF2 SF from the popo special G21 though hard to come by. I repurposed one for my 20C and its just about right (for non Glock haters) Gen3 part support is still live and well with many NOS parts available from Jack First, Numrich, Midway and Brownells with the later being more limited. Just bought the decocker only levers and few internal parts for my 1066. I pretty much support whatever someone chooses, It’s their money and preferences. Great to have all these options out there with the resurgence in 10mm.

Same with some rare exceptions. Honestly I only use an optic on a select few, but its better to have the option and absolute a plus for resale I'm sure there a better analogies, but the one that comes to mind is that is like a tow package / hitch on a truck. You can just more with it but you don't have to use it all the time.

Gotta love they have em in every possible length. Gives ya a chance to put some away for when they drop into the 1,200 to 1,300 range like the 4" and 6" are. Soon....

This AM I was going to a dealership for service and took my truck gun out of the console before I left. As I sat there waiting this question came to me. At home, never have my phone near me and it's occasionally off, but admit I have a hard time going out without it. Not concerned about comms as much as I use nav alot, as well as looking up things on the net while in a store (harbor freight coupons usually lol). Being a transplant, I still get turned around more than I like to admit. I have gone back for my phone if not too far away. I do more pros and cons on the gun.

Posting my followup for SS. The following week I got someone on the phone in about 5 mins. They Id'd the problem in their system, but had to send it to their dealer dept. Got a call back at end of the day saying he got someone to unstick it and should be good. Verified same and was able to move to next step. So while email never worked, phone seems to if you get someone. Was approx 10 day between submitting to ATF and approval using their trust. Been told individual is quicker, 2 to 3 days.

Forgetting your phone or your carry / car gun? Let’s say running around locally for a couple hours. Would you keep going or go back home to get it?

I have a 320’s that I’m not concerned about, but if one does not want one for any reason, 100% agree with this. Competition and manufacturing standards give so many great options in that size class. The one mention that immediately jumped out to me and I would recommend to anyone passing on A 320 is the S&W M&P. Specifically in 3.6” compact. It’s a bit of a misnomer in that it’s got a full purchase grip (hair more than a G19) with good ergo’s. standard 15 round mags or can run the full size’s 17’s. They are great shooters, reliable, and perfect size imo. Very similar to a 320 xcompact but a bit more concealable. And of course, a good deal of aftermarket fiddly bits if you are so inclined.

You may have the same Beretta affliction I do

So there is zero question or obfuscation of rollmarks to establish which slide is which. Just grabbed the first 3 I could lay hands on. In the following order, top to bottom 96G-SD which is a full size, same as any 92FS 92G Centurion 92FS Compact As you can see, (legitimate) Centurions are the same as the Compact and shorter than the full size. Period. As far as current production non vertec versions of Centurions, Both the Langdon and Wilson have rounded backstraps. And Langdon just dropped the price by a large margin so great choice. What I would grab if I was looking to buy a new one.

The tell on a Centurion slide is how far the slide extends past the frame dust cover. They use the same frames, so its obvious when you see one as its a quarter inch shorter. Similar to how you can tell a full size 1911 from a Commander length. Outside the obvious rollmarking of course. I would like to see the right side roll mark because that appears to be a full size slide with a shorter barrel. Or you have a unicorn misprint. I have multiple centurions and all are shorter than full size by 1/4". And same as my Compact L Are those pics yours, or from the intergoogle?

Late to this, but Just Fyi @22lr, some responses have a bit of misinformation. Centurion sides are not the same length as full size. They are in fact shorter on top of the barrel having protrusion thru the muzzle. Also Centurion does not automatically mean you’ll have a Vertec backstrap. Those are independent features. There are rounded backstrap centurions as well as full size Vertecs. Beretta recently has been doing vertec frames with additional grips that’s can be swapped that mimic the rounded backstrap for those with medium to large hands if you are not sure. There is also the 92 compact which is the centurion length slide on a reduced height frame. The beauty of a 92 series gun is the interchangeability of the slides among other things. The backstrap choice is mostly about hand size. If you have smaller hands Vertec may be a better choice. I personally prefer traditional rounded backstraps with thin grips and centurion length uppers. But due to open slide design, length on a 92 is less pronounced from a balance perspective than most. I swap them in length and caliber. I no longer own any vertecs, just too small of a grip circumference and the beavertail to thumb interface was uncomfortable for me. The A1 buffered frames are preferable imo unless you really want the lowest profile possible.

one of the many possibilities no doubt. In my original (misunderstood) post I postulated that the earlier tariff threats which were pulled and kicked down the road where exactly that. Feeling out the reaction for a bigger event. It’s been amazing to watch. especially here quick and large the swings were with news / sentiment.

Granted Hassett accidentally slipped a couple days ago leaking the planned 90 day tariff hold. They played out off pretty well, but likely limited the drops over the last couple days Headfake pulled.

I am curious as to any responses you get about their recent turnarounds and general service. I ordered a can last week that had a free trust promo. Was already in their system and things were up to date, got the docusign pretty quick. But they set it us as an individual vs trust. Sent an email, they forwarded it to their 'tech support' as they were the ones that take care of it I guess. Tried calling twice this week. On hold over an hour each time before hanging up. Tried chat, was maybe 25 mins and took about 30 more mins for the guy to say, yeah, I cant do anything about it you need to email tech support (after telling him the story already) and said to followup on that email again. But inferred they are not so good about answer email so who knows. A week on and nada. Got email this morning asking me to pay for tax stamp. Hell no, not till they fix it. I had called them in the past, dont remember that being a problem. My take is they are way busier with ATF being so quick and cans selling like hot cakes. I get that. But pretty sure they have gone the way alot of companies have and no one actually mans the phones. Chat is about useless and that guy is probably doing multiple chats at ones as its like 5 mins plus between responses. So their service level if there is a problem has gone in the crapper. All that is background to support they have delays and you are at their mercy so not sure if its just total volume, they cut back staff, or what. imo you can only really tell / measure a company when issues arise. My first transactions with them went smooth back when it took 9 to 10 months to get cans. Not now. If I dont get this take care of next week then I am asking for a refund and/or doing a credit card chargeback.