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Little late to the party maybe, but here it is. Love em or hate em. Uses P320 mags so that will probably get some interesting reactions https://www.sigsauer.com/p211-gto.html

Good and popular don't always follow. Advertising budget and marketing budget isn't anything like a Springfield or Glock and its hurt their adoption. Agree with @JustEdin that accessory support is lacking which hurts that adoption even more, though its is improving since their more recent target offerings took off a bit. I have a PPQ Q4 TAC and PDP. I like them more than my 9mm HK, a P30 with better overall performance. Great guns. I got these a few years ago before the target models and Carl Walther was really the only way to get the German market hop up parts. The performance trigger was spendy and limited. Works a treat but had a waited about 5 years I'd have had more options

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That's a very nice offer! OP you should consider it, you really cant get a sense of it until you hear the differences in person and by host. I moved from a blue state so never heard one in person until buying a couple. TBAC and PEW are good for background. If you take a look at their rankings, some surprising differences in ranking based on hosts chosen for testing. Consider TBAC has some skin in the game as well, PEW does not. For example, one chose not to run a 22 pistol in their testing so one particular can recognized as top tier for 22 pistols (engineered specifically for pistol use) flipped to different ends of the scale in each of the result sets for the two testers mentioned. That difference reads overstated when hearing the difference in person. The printed can vs machined are allowing for some differences to factor. Do you want ultimate suppression vs minimal gas to the face in a rifle. Do-it-all versions or specific use is something you need to decide on. Hopefully HPA allows things to get cheap after initial demand price surge dies down and more manufactures jump into the arena (until a blue admin comes in anyway) I thought I had read the 4473 was going to a thing, good to hear its not. Hopefully if the Senate sends back / passes it, they don't add something to crazy so it's neutered.

you want resin for better parts durability? That was the rabbit hole I ended in last a BF as the resin printers were getting really affordable. But the videos showed much more cleanup and support structures depending on what for doing. Is it worth it ya think?

I have to think your service experience is a function of who works on your firearm. There are good and bad workers in every company, so luck of the draw perhaps. And I am relatively sure, once gun is worked on by one person, its returned to them if it comes back to revisit the repair. I have always measured a company from their service side as where personal interaction happens. I have had several occasions to send a firearm back multiple times. I wont bore y'all with too many, but before I share the topic 320 experience, I'll mention just last month I had 3 returns of an MCX, each time receiving a replacement lower. Their service department has some very unqualified people I fear. As far as 320. I have 3 FCU's currently which have been fine. But in 2018 I bought a new gun and it had a crunchy break around 8lbs. The sear was not sitting square in the FCU and the sear surface was tilted so only part of the striker would engage and its corner was gauling the surface. Also, I found that the trigger bar would hit the bottom of the FCU body as it cammed forward which was adding a couple pounds to the pull weight. This was different to my other FCU's which had ample clearence fo the body to trigger bar. So I think that is in line of the tolerance folks are talking about here. In this case, Sig said go pound sand, we got the gun to fire so too bad so sad for you. Just returned it saying up to 10lbs and passing safety checks is within spec. I take pics of issue and write detailed letter with the pics to describe to them what I am seeing. I cannot find all the pics, but have a side by side FCU comparison I texted to a friend when he was asking about what to look for. So I can share that. If I find the sear pics will add it. But in this pic note how close the left FCU's trigger bar is the the frame, as you begin pulling the trigger it hits the frame as rides long the body. The one of the right (and my others) trigger bar does not hit FCU body at all. You can see variance differences in the cuts and widths throughout, so many changes over time I bet. To say Sig has some poor QC and excessively wide tolerances for what is acceptable....I think that is a bit kind

Greg, Please share where you end up! A couple years ago I was about to buy one on the Crealty Ender series and feel off the deep end researching set up and upgrades to optimize it fit use, then the sales ended. Same happened this last Black Friday with Amazon having some great sales. There are more players now, so options are overwhelming (if you are apt to dive too deep like me) @Capbyrd has some cool posts with things he’d done. In that time he may have wisdom to add for what he runs today. Seems like no matter where you start, the upgrades can take on a life of their own

Looks like a number of the online retailers had them in the $230 to $245 range but are currently oos. Many of them also don’t add on use tax, which Sig will. Maybe set up an alert for back in stock at a couple if you’re good with waiting?

You gotta tell me your secret on letting go! I thought I was doing good selling 3 things, but ended up buying 4.

Has anyone here ever sent a 320 to Sig for warranty? I have previously posted in other threads around service warranty work that imo Sig is the most difficult company to work with for various reasons, but before adding something around a 320 experience, curious if anyone has any experience with them on this platform.

Last month’s thread on the P320 self discharge-a-palooza https://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/140056-sig-p320-carry-range-only-or-sell/#comments The video posted of the cops gun going off was the first I’’d seen, so there is that. But like David said…more data and reproducible results that don’t involve some guy jamming picks into a frame are needed. I’d take theMilitary cases witha grain of salt. You don’t have to try hard to find multiple reports of ND’s with our military’s previous sidearms. Maybe Beretta is much better at coverup than Sig? Or something about 18yo’s and guns?

Old Sacramento Armory had three 55 gallon drums packed with M1’s for $79 to $89 during the 80’s. I’d sorted thru them a few times intending on coming back on the following Saturday, but never did thinking they would always be there. But not the case, wish I had

Huh. Maybe I lived in CA too long to notice a light shake lol. I was sittin on the couch watching the GP race, didnt feel thing. Dead butt maybe.

It is too bad. It really means you just need hands on and detailed inspection (bring your feeler gauges) better doing the transfer. Of you have a cool dealer ok with returning if it fails your QC checks, could be worth it if you get one that was right. They are the biggest manufacturer with focus on production and profitability, Total volume increases while the percentage of revolvers is dropping. Much bigger margins in pimping out M&P’s. It’s not where their market is any longer, so I get why they are de-emphasizing revolvers. Personally I don’t see too many things of interest from them given how Colt has really gotten things sorted with their wheel guns. The occasional PC vcomp is something I’d consider, maybe.

if someone is thinking no big deal, I can send it in to be fixed if its one with a problem, I’ll caution against it. Two factors. First, the CS agents limited ability to communicate the problem to the service department. They have a limited number of boxes them can check for reported issues. Forcing cone fit or end play fall under “canted barrel” from my last rodeo. So the actual problem may not be worked on. I included a letter with pictures of feeler gauges showing the gap…but no dice. CS confirmed they usually disregard. Second, the service is not good with revolvers in general. While I’m sure there may be some capable revolver smiths there, it’s a crap shoot if one of them gets your gun. My last two trips did not. So nothing done other than removing a not canted barrel and it coming back a hair overlocked with (still) out of spec forcing cone fit and end play. They did make the trigger better, so guess there was that bonus