Fallguy

In your earlier post you didn't seem so sure.... I saw lots of misinformation on GT, (about following state park carry laws in the state you're in etc...) hope you got them straight.

Ok...here is what I can find. It was Sec 512 of HR 627 that allowed carry in National Parks. Read The Bill: H.R. 627 - May 21, 2009 - GovTrack.us Part ((2) seems to say you can carry however as long as it is legal by state law. So it would seem to allow OC and even carry without a permit in states like AK and VT...and maybe even OC without a permit in states that allow OC without a permit.

It's because almost ever argument against carry at some point says, "it's for the children".

I had links to the new as well, but still kind find them, but I do remember it seemed to change, harder to keep up with than state bills even. I'm with you in that I will conceal most of the time, but just want to know.

I think it still only allows concealed carry. Working on finding it again. The one main difference between this and what W signed, is that what W signed did go by what the state law was on state park carry, but this new one would allow carry in National Parks within states that ban carry in state parks so as they don't have a law against carry in National Parks. EDIT: Here is the link to the final rule. Check the last couple of pages for what the changes in the law will be. Seems to may to say concealed. http://www.doi.gov/issues/Final%20Rule.pdf

I don't think so. I believe the Federal Law will only allow for concealed carry in National Parks, even if OC is legal in the state. Also another thing to remember is that any Federal Buildings within the National Park would still be off-limits.

Never met Todd, but from his post seems like a good guy. Not sure what situation you've been in, but glad you have got through and are posting again.

+1000

Whether a state allows carry in State parks or not does not affect carry in National Parks within that state. If you can legally carry on "Main St" in that state then you can carry in a National Park in that state unless that state has a law that specifically prohibits carry in National Parks.

Yep, Feb 22, 2010 is the date.

If simple exception for HCP holder's bill is introduced and passed in both chambers, then there would be no differences to be worked out in a conference committee and no votes on whether to accept the other chamber's version etc... So that would cut down on the time/votes compared to last year considerably. However I grant that it is a big IF. From last I could tell Sen Jackson was dead set against introducing a simple exception bill, so I can't help but to wonder even if someone else introduced one, how much (if any) he would support it. Especially if he followed through with his own bill, it could be hard for any other one introduced by someone else to get much traction I'm afraid. I also agree that his bill to allow carry only in places with a restaurant liquor-by-the-drink license is more screwed up than anything else we had or could have.

You very well could be right as well. Another possibility is some "back door" trading depending how badly votes are needed on certain education bills that come up.

Actually it could mean this and other firearms laws don't get noticed as much, which wouldn't be all bad if the sponsors can still move them along. But to the OP even if the bill is introduced Monday you are still talking about several weeks before it goes through the whole process and comes up for a vote on the floor of the senate and house. As said more likely at least 2-3 months.

Generally asking (by calling or in person) is not a good idea. 99.8% of places will tell you they don't want you to or that they don't allow it even if they aren't posted. Also as said....the question could get them to thinking about the situation and cause them to post. If they aren't posted, the worse that can happen is they ask you to leave if you are spotted (which shouldn't happen with proper concealment). So the best thing is to know if a place is off-limits by law and if not look for postings and if you don't see any, then you should be ok. Of course asking on here if someone has been to a place and whether they saw a posting or not is not a bad idea....but as you see, may or may not find an answer.

I did say I wasn't sure about Knoxville ordnances. Also it is 1314 that says pre 04/01/86 ordnances are not effected by state law, not 1311 But you are right in that the city shouldn't be able to have it both ways, they either need to go by current T.C.A. which would mean they would have to pass a resolution or prohibit carry, of go by a pre-'86 ban that bans ALL posession (I assume)

OS is right... Not sure about any Knoxville Ordnance, but 39-17-1311 specifically makes an exception for gun shows.

Federal buildings are off-limits per Federal Law even if they are not posted.

He was banned by the admin. If you need any further details feel free to contact him. Edit...I see he has posted.

+1 If it is a BG planning on doing BG things, you'd probably be ok. (Drunk or not) If it was a concerned neighbor just cracking the door open because they thought they heard a scream, you'd probably be screwed. (Drunk or not) There never is a simple shoot/don't shoot answer to these questions, you have to consider the totality of the circumstances in a specific situation. But as you can see, in the above two scenarios IMO the results could be the same, drinking or not.

First let me say...I COULD BE WRONG.... But I didn't think counties could pass ordnances/laws. I thought that is why you see in some state laws that a certain law does/does not apply to counties having a population of XXXX to XXXX, just so that law would or wouldn't affect that county. Now counties have control over things given to them by the state, such a beer licenses etc... Also a county can Zone the county (Decatur Co recently tried this then decided not to continue it). But if they did that, I guess it would be possible that they could prevent the discharge of firearms within a certain zone. So that could be what is going on. It also about the only reason I could the Sheriff would refer you to the clerk. If there was a county wide prohibition, you'd think the sheriff would know about it. But if it is only here or there then you'd need to talk with someone that knows where the heres and theres are and which one of those places a certain parcel is in.

Here is a cheap solution I have thought about. Door Stop Alarm NRAStore.com - Product Detail

I keep mine on top of the night stand. Guess I've always figured the the noise it would take from them to break in the locked door would be enough to wake me up. If not and they are already on top of me in my bedroom, not sure I'd have enough time to reach into the drawer or behind the stand to grab the handgun anyway. But decent point that if they didn't see it, they wouldn't have yours to use against you.

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Hope it all works out for you. From what you've said it definetly doesn't sound fair.

Can't really disagree with either of you....