Fallguy

I have created a new locked thread for listing restaurants that have posted. http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/handgun-carry-self-defense/25149-listing-user-reported-posted-restaurants.html I got a PM that this thread was getting to hard to actually locate posted restaurants and I agree. So I will be merging the original RESTAURANTS THAT HAVE POSTED thread to the Discussion on posted restaurants thread. If you have a new restaurant to add, an old one to remove or a correction to those already listed, just PM me with the information. Thanks.

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Ah...I had sort of forgot that it was more than just the wife's parents. But I totally see your point and with all of that in mind, I can definetly see not wanting anything to come up. Hindsight being 20/20 maybe the thing to do would have been as you said just carry and not ask and gave extra effort to staying concealed, or simply left it in the car or at home in the first place. But if you are going to regularly carry in public around your in-laws, it's not impossiable for it to come up just about anywhere you go, not just restaurants that serve alcohol.

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Ok....let just ask this.. What is it you think may have happened if someone would have caught a glimpse of your weapon while bowling, etc...? Was it the possibilty of whatever the answer above is and your new in-laws seeing that the reason you asked or would you have asked if even alone? The reason some say you have "ruined it" for others is because now this place knows they have not legally posted to prohibit carry and now may choose to legally post therefore prohibiting legally carry for everyone instead of preventing carry by just those who may choose to ask. Again is always good to be respectful or the business owner and his wishes, but he has a legal remedy to make his wished known, he can post a sign, if he chooses not to, then so be it. You are correct in that you can be asked to leave for pretty much any reason, but it doesn't sound like these young people would have told anyone to just leave without a very good reason, at the most, I think 99% of the places would simply ask you to take it to the car. However I am willing to cut some slack due to the social situation at the time and possibly trying to prevent a scene in front of the family. I assume your in-laws don't know you carry and/or don't approve?

Just to make a slight correction..the above is right, but the statute sighted is for retail establishment. 57-4-203(k)(1) applies to establishments that sell alcohol for onsite consumption.

I think what he, or some, may mean is they aren't worried about violating rules, only the law. So if the place doesn't have a sign posted and you carry, you are not breaking any law, regardless of policy. IMO if a place has a policy against carry they should take the time to post a proper sign, not me have to take the time to ask them about their policy. Also as a popular saying on here goes (although not one of my favorite) concealed means concealed, so if you are concealing properly the chances of you being made and asked to leave should be nearly nill. As far as being "forced"....I do understand that sometimes it's not always your choice on where to eat. Especially if someone else is paying.

Doesn't appear to be anything in GA or KY law that would prevent it. http://handgunlaw.us/states/georgia.pdf http://handgunlaw.us/states/kentucky.pdf On the public gathering clause in GA... FWIW KY mentions no firearms on it's Policies page Park Policies: Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom GA however doesn't say anything about them Park Policies: Six Flags Over Georgia

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Pretty close to the mark I believe Dave...

The "old signs" you speak of are still required by law, and apply to those that don't have a HCP. 57-3-204(e)(1) Also see this thread If a place doesn't have a 39-17-1359 sign I'd carry and keep my mouth shut.

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I didn't know that......may have to make an order. .....and we can start up the old debate about what effect the type of ammo you use and/or caliber of weapon you carry may have on a civil suit. NOT

+1 My comments on the article on the Jackson Sun's website

Well done, if I'm ever in the area, I know where I'll be dining. Considering the above and your OCing..maybe you do want to post a sign after all...see below.

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Will be interesting to follow.... I was at Old Hickory Mall Thursday....didn't see one security guard anywhere. But.....I wasn't worried...

Kudos to the nurse!!

Well...let me ask you this....in the situation you describe above, how is the customer justified in shooting the robber? You've said he has turned and walked out. So there is no longer and imminet threat of death or serious bodily harm. Now if the customer would have shot at him while he was still in the process of robbing the place with the gun out....probably a whole different story. You know my feelings on protection of property, so I'm not saying it's right, just that it is the way it is. We had a discussion on this part of it before, but after looking a little closer, as far as I can tell, commiting a crime does not mean you give up your right to self-defense. It only means the parts about no duty to retreat and presumed to be in fear of imminet death or serious bodily harm to do not apply. So as long as the criminal can show he had no way of getting out of the siuation or that he was trying to get out of it and he can prove he was in reasonable fear of imminet death or serious bodily harm, even the BG can claim self-defense.

I guess it depends on where..... TN law is 4", the condition of entry signs where I work say, 3". Not sure about the post office.

Each agency, FBI, TBI and local sheriff each have 30 days from the time they (FBI, TBI, Sheriff) get the information. So of course there is mailing time to and from the DOS. Figure that is one reason for the 90 days overall. But unless there are major differences in you and your wife's backgrounds not sure why one would be completed and the other not.

Here is a list of court cases in the TN court system dealing with the "intent to go armed". The first case about brass knuckles is sort of interesting.

One thing I noticed is the one gal that was against it mentioned how she didn't like guns in general. I have somewhat noticed that for a lot of people on both the restaurants and parks. A lot of the people against carry in those places are against carry and/or firearms in general. Only rarely do you see someone that doesn't have a problem in general and tries to make a specific argument (other than "for the kids" and "guns and alcohol don't mix") against carry in restaurants and parks.