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I don't generally Open Carry either, but support those that choose to. Back when different states started issuing carry permits, many only recognized a different states permit if the two states had a written reciprocity agreement between them, TN was like that. But now TN as with many other states, simply recognize and valid permit from any other state.

According to this Alabama AG opnion & OpenCarry.org you can OC in AL without permit, except within a vehicle and then you can with a permit.

I do not think TN and AL have a written reciprocity agreement, but according to this DOS page AL recognizes TN permits. All but 15 states have reciprocity with or recognize TN permits. California Connecticut Hawaii Illinois Iowa Maine Maryland Massachusetts Nebraska New Jersey New York Oregon Rhode Island Washington Wisconsin According to Handgunlaw.us the off-limit places in AL are: Schools During a demonstration at a public place In a vehicle within 1000' of a demonstration in a public place. For definitions of those terms you can see the above website. Also some confusion is caused because local sheriff's can place restrictions on permits they issue. But those restrictions only apply to that permit, such as no carry in places that serve alcohol. They do not apply to permits issued by other sheriff's or out of state permit holders.

Concealed may mean concealed, but it doesn't mean legal or within store policy. However I agree on asking questions. If it is not off-limits by law and not properly posted (and one with a HCP should know what those things are), it is up to you whether you want to violate that stores policy or not.

There is no duty to retreat ANYWHERE that you have legal right to be, not just in your home. The biggest difference (as already said) is in your house and certain other areas there is a presumption you are in fear of death or great bodily harm if someone illegally and forcibly enters those areas. If for some reason the police or DA feels something is wrong you could still be charged, but they would have to prove you weren't in fear as opposed to you proving you were. There was a case back in Memphis a few months ago. On the surface it looked like a ex-boyfriend entered this woman's home and the new boyfriend shot him. On the surface all is good right? Well after investigation they found the woman had invited the ex over and set up the confrontation, so...no one was actually in fear and they were prosecuted. Relevant T.C.A. to the "Castle Doctrine" 39-11-611 Self-defense. 39-11-622 Justification for use of force — Exceptions — Immunity from civil liability.

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I agree, I believe Ms Knight and the SMALL group of workers they have at the HCP office are just as frustrated as the applicants with the current system. There is no reason to think they just sit around and arbitrarily delay the process on anyone. Also they all have to answer to someone higher up the food chain than them, they are the ones caught in the middle, getting it from us and the ones above them.

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No worries mate....

Yep...I have always thought was a little weird myslef.... Seems like the majority of states that issue non-resident permits only recognize a permit of the state a person is a resident of. But I guess I always thought they at least recognized their own permit.

That would pretty much seem to take care of that then...

Yes, the Castle Doctrine mentions "temporary" residence, which a tent as you say or a motel room would be considered that. But...the Castle Doctrine is not what allows you to have a weapon in a particular location. It simply address the legailites of using it while in those locations. I took his question to mean was it ok to have a loaded weapon there without a permit, the castle doctrine does not cover that, it simply is saying that if you have a weapon here is how you can legally use it. ...and yes you can have unloaded, weapon and ammo stored seperatley in your car.....but that isn't going to do very much for you during a carjacking. I think it is 100% legal to have a loaded ready to go weapon in your motel room, but I don't think that is the castle doctrine that says you can, I think that is because the room is simply your temporary residence because of the contract you made with the motel when you paid them for it.

This may sound bad, but I personally don't care if it is against the policy of some place, as long as they don't post properly or it is against the law otherwise.

I have to agree with db99wj. Not sure what you are really trying to accomplish by taking the clip out. Of course the popcorn icon strikes me as just wanting to make a statement and see what happens...

I sort of like VT and AK that say if you bought it you can carry it. I did sort of think that by including cars in the list of places in the Castle Doctrine that someone in Nashville may have thought about the fact that you can't be legally armed in your car without a permit.

I see what you are saying and I don't disagree. I just sort of see the Castle Doctrine more relating to the use of force as opposed to the general question of the OP. Because the Castle Doctrine says you are assumed to be in fear of death or great bodily harm if someone tries to break into your car...but you must still have your HCP to be able to have your weapon in your car. Didn't mean to seem so short in my other post...had my attention diverted as I was posting it...

The Castle Doctrine has nothing to do with being able to carry or store a firearm, just the use of it....

Hmm...not sure. I think most do within hours though.

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Here are a couple times hotel/motel are mentioned that would make you think a motel room is not a public place and is condsiderd your residence. and

That is the very reason I use the chain or other security methods they have that lock the door while you are in the room.

I agree.. It just seems like I remember others posting something like paying for the motel room contracts it as your "temporary residence" or something like that.

Well it boils down to whether the motel room is considered you residence or premises, if so it is legal of course. I believe it is, but others have posted how exactly it is considered your residence, maybe they can explain further soon.

You will never be able to convince her she is wrong. That is why I suggested you put the ball in her court and try to help you get it done. Let her find out on her own, from 3rd parties, there is no such thing in TN.