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I'm curious as to what different treatment you think the moderators receive.

It was a cop car that he hit. After watching it several times I still can't tell for sure if patrol car was trying to avoid him or trying to hit him. The both zig and zag a little...sort of like when you're walking in a door and someone else is walking out and y'all both lean into each others path a couple of times before you can get passed....lol

Actually it was more individually owned bars/taverns I was thinking of. Even though there are no such things as "bars/taverns" in TN.

I agree on adrenaline, it's just when I wrecked mine although I didn't feel the pain for a while, I was just a bit stunned for a moment or two.

Yes, some had them, some didn't. By no means did I read every case, but everyone that I did, this charge was in addition to another, not by itself. Such as DUI and possession while under the influence. In one a guy was also convicted of carrying in a park (39-17-1311) by being in the parking lot of the J Percy Priest dam. Hillbilly I use michie to look up TCA all the time, see my sig line and link to 39-17-1321 in my first post. It is a great source of the law, but not as it is applied. You're right about Class A misdemeanors. Seems like a couple of the ones I remember they were sentenced to 11 months, 29 days, but only served 10 days and the rest was on supervised probation. I think that is a standard sentence for most first time Class A misdemeanors.

While this may not be the perfect or best way I have done some interesting reading this evening looking up TN court cases. You can use a site specific search on google and search the TN Supreme court website. In the search bar simply type "(search term/s) site:http://www.tsc.state.tn.us" Obviously replacing "search term" with what you want to look up. (and not using " marks) Found at least two cases where someone was convicted under 39-17-1321 when they hadn't had a drink for hours. One case all it took was for the officer to say "he was under the influence". One thing to remember is all of these cases are ones where someone appealed a decision by a lower court. So like in my example above there could be cases where someone had a beer in their hand, we're found not guilty, and the state did not appeal. Those cases wouldn't show up in this search. FYI: I did search other terms, I just cited the above because of recent threads and just remembering a discussion on this in the past. If you read any of these you'll see that when there is a conviction the presumption of innocence is gone, so the court looks at everything in a light most favorable to the prosecution. One thing this proves is, you really never know what a jury is going to do.

Hard to believe the way he just popped up afterwards....

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Very good points Shadow! You know, I don't think that is something that was ever brought up among the legislators during discussion about the restaurant carry bill. That there are already firearms around alcohol, the ones that owners and their employees have. Of course if it had been, probably just would have been successful in getting that provision removed.

Pretty much what you finally have to do.

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The minor league ball park closest to me is owned by the city it is in, so it is a publicly owned recreational facility. That would make it (according to the AG) illegal for a HCP holder to carry, but not a LEO. Also people charged with the protection of persons or property can carry in places where alcohol is served for onsite consumption. LEO's can carry while in the actual discharge of their duties where alcohol is served for onsite consumption. So if they are there to provide security one could argue they are in performance of their duties.

You are correct about private clubs. To answer your question....Decatur County is a "dry" county, but the Elk's lodge can serve liqour by the drink...so it can be done.

Just saw the new smileys Cool...

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GREAT tat Tungsten!! :P

Right at 4 hours.

Although many have done it at times.... I'd just remind everyone it is against the Code of Conduct for the board to discuss or suggest an illegal action, such as how to carry in a place that serves alcohol for onsite consumption.

I've bought one of these and haven't used on my bike yet, but if you have saddle bags you could loop the cable around the rear shock and put in the bag. http://www.center-of-mass.com/ Of course you may be seen transferring to the safe, but better than leaving the house unarmed. Also could still carry the ammo in with you so if stolen the gun isn't readily available for use.

Not anything about Temp Permits, but here is the TDOS page and TCA reference that the renewal receipt is valid.