Plain Old Dave

32-20 shells off gunbroker. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk

Firstly, I have seen a lot more rattly old Colts than Smiths. A K-frame has two locking points instead of the one Colt stayed with throughout the revolver era. Smith and Wesson realized the one locking point system was inferior as early as 1902 when the nub under the barrel on both revolvers I posted pics of was introduced on the K-frame. Was introduced on the smaller I-frame in 1903. Biggest problem with Colts is one part performs several functions; one example being that the hand in a Colt is part of timing as well as cylinder advance where in a Smith the hand simply advances the cylinder. And the Police Positive Special was a "hot rodded" small frame revolver; I know of people that have tried to shoot the old "rifle only" 32-20s through PPSs and warped the crane enough to bind up the revolver. Not really an issue on the more robust Smith K-frame or the Colt ".41 Frame" Army Special/Official Police. The Army Special/OP eventually became the Python... Secondly, well said on chesty "two number" cartridges. The standard velocity smokeless 32-20s are another topic altogether. Factory stuff is anemic and was known to stick bullets in barrels. However, reloading data exists to get the 32-20 up in the neighborhood of 38 Special +P. Peace officers in Appalachia preferred the 32-20 for years and many 32-20s come down out of the hills. You could have a rifle AND pistol in the same caliber. The 32-20 wouldn't destroy meat on smaller game, either; it may have been the very first "general purpose" cartridge. The .38/.357 didn't supplant the .32WCF til the 50s-60s in some areas and there are probably a few older TGO members that can recall broken boxes of .32-20 ammo in the local Co-Op or dry goods store, sold for a few cents each to farmers to re stock their Smith or Colt revolver and Remington/Winchester/Mariln/Savage rifle after they had dispatched a fox or some other game.

Those that have been here a while will recall my penchant for the archaic; Lemon Squeezers, I-frames and Police Positives. Seemed like a thing to do to have a 32-20 Thread, as my "EDC" is a 1920s vintage Smith and Wesson Military and Police. Mine seems to like heavier bullets better; if I do my part she's developing a very satisfying habit of putting multiple bullets in one hole. The HSM 32-20 is loaded more warmly than Remchester, and has a large, flat bullnose profile.

Lower band for my Gew 88 Sporter. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk

Buy It Now on a Commission Rifle buttplate. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk

As I currently understand it, the fee for Veterans with documented proof of marksmanship activity (I.E. marksmanship award documented on DD214 or other qualification document) is $68. My thoughts on the permit process have evolved considerably since the unfortunate thread six years ago; I am a drilling Navy Reservist assigned to Navy Operational Support Center Chattanooga and have been assigned there since 2012. Getting mine as soon as I have 68 dollars with no other purpose in life.

Oak Ridge. We have ORSA, the Wind Rock range, and the Norris Watershed range here in Anderson County, an easy drive from Knoxville; any Knoxville shoot needs to be a metro shoot as the rules at John Sevier (bench rest ONLY) virtually preclude any shooting fun.

In a perfect world (and one where the Front Office understands dignity), Butch's release would be announced the week after Christmas, maybe on a Tuesday afternoon. But one learns to set one's expectations law with UT.

Found a box of Remington 35 Remington at a Knoxville pawnshop. $15. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk

I have had in mind for 20+ years to build a big bore Krag; a .30-40 Krag that duplicates Krag ballistics with a larger bullet and have finally located a good donor Krag on GunBrokeR. Already drilled and tapped for a Lyman reciever sight and comes with it, too. Rotten bore, but as the barrel is to be replaced with a .358 (or rebored to .358, very common Depression era mod), that's OK. Questions: 1) Who makes bullets that will reliably expand at @2100 f/s for a .358 rifle? Seems like all I find are designed for a .35 Whelen/.358WCF and probably wouldn't do well that slow or for a .35 Remington and probably wouldn't hold together that fast, 2) Anybody know of a good smith with Krag experience that would take on the project? 3) Is there a barrelmaker that has a .358 barrel close to the dimensions of the .405 barrel on the 1895 Winchester? The .405 weight barrel was a mod Major Townsend Whelen recommended on Krag sporters. Please no comments on how the Krag has "only one locking lug" (it actually does have 2 AND a safety lug, but that's beside the point) or how it's "weak". I have been rolling my own for my Krag for quite a long time and am well aware of the few weaknesses of the Krag action.

Selection; The big box stores have 99% hunting rifles, and it seems like all a lot of independent shops have are handguns designed for CCW permit holders. If I could find a shop that carried a balanced selection of CCW, hunting guns, Old West era stuff, and C&R military stuff I would literally NEVER go anywhere else. For long-term Knoxville residents, my IDEAL gun shop was Parker and Sons Shooting Supplies in Straw Plains from c. 1988-1992. Only other place I have ever been with that strong of a grease/cosmolene smell was my own gun safe.... Mmmmmmmmmm..... As close as it gets now to ideal is Farnsworth's down in Vonore. Rob appreciates fine old guns and has some CCW stuff and hunting stuff too. If it just wasn't such a haul to Vonore...

For every "one shot, didn't go more than 20 years" deer killed with a 6mm/.243 or smaller, there are probably 10-15 that ran off to never be found. As Uncle Elmer said well before WW2, bigger heavier bullets kill better than smaller lighter ones. Can you kill a deer with a .270? Sure, plenty of people have. Can you kill a deer with a .22? With shot placement, sure: most poachers use .22LR so it certainly is possible. BUT The more under .30 caliber you get, the less reliable a killer a caliber is. Unless a man is the late lamented Harold West (the best rifle shot I ever knew) or Alvin York, he is well advised to stay with a reliable killer like a .30-30, .30-40, .30/06, .300 Savage or something of that sort. Bottom line: Minimum calibers for medium game: .25 for fixed cartridges, .40 for muzzleloaders.

Read about that fellow. Not too bright; open carry tends to scare folks. I'm not intending to be some sort of gun Rosa Parks; I have never felt the need to carry a loaded firearm anywhere. All I intend to posit is if someone feels like they need to have a firearm about them, they should be able to drop one in a coat/vest/pants pocket right along with the car keys and pocketknife. That, or wear it as a belt buckle like NAA used to make their little revolver to do. No brandishing, no commotion.

Might be better to lock it, as I haven't got what I would consider to be an articulate, sensible answer. I don't have a permit and won't get one. What I choose to do with my private property is nobody's business but mine. If other folks want to participate in this system, that's their choice. Only question I have that it seems as though nobody wants to answer is how does requesting permission from the Government to engage in a fundamental human right NOT cede that that right is not a right at all but is instead a granted privelege, subject to revocation? I googled "constitutional carry" and I reckon that's basically what I would like to see. Doesn't appear as though there's any real interest in debating it, so go ahead and lock it of you're so inclined.

The .223/5.56's inability to stop human or larger critters is heavily documented. Fine varmint round, but not enough for medium/large game. The whole point of having different seasons (Archery/Muzzleloader/Rifle) is to decrease challenge to those that voluntarily take up a more challenging method of game harvesting; all I propose is a creative way to allow those that voluntarily take up a more challenging method of hunting a little better crack; a longbow hunter could get in the woods 3 days before a compound bowhunter. To my mind, and a lot of others too, the "state of the art muzzleloader" is cheating; You're hunting with a .30-06 that happens to load from the front during a season designed to offset the challenge of a man that has a flintlock or percussion sidelock and preventing him from seeing game. Inlines should be considered in the same class as standard cartridge rifles.

The question still stands: Life is a fundamental human right; I infer defense of life is also a fundamental human right from this. The question is still open: How is submitting to an interposed bureaucratic system NOT ceding to the other side that, instead of as we assert, defense of life is instead a privelege subject to governmental approval? To restate my original post (that was modified without my assent) hopefully in a fashion that will not run afoul of certain peoples' sensibilities, In Montana, Alaska or Vermont, if someone feels the need to carry a firearm, they may do so. No questions asked. If they do NOT feel the need to carry a firearm, they may do that as well. Again, no questions asked. To my mind, this as it should be. How is interposing a bureaucratic system into this exercise of fundamental human rights NOT ceding that self-defense is a privelege, subject to governmental approval?

How is the Concealed Carry Permit system not fundamentally ceding the argument to the other side? If we're requesting permission to exercise a fundamental human right, aren't we giving credence to the idea that gun use and ownership is a privelege subject to government regulation and not a fundamental human right? Floor is open.

It's drill weekend, but as I'm going on orders I might be able to go Sunday after Church. Military discount?

The only way I would think a person to person transfer for a TN resident in FL might be legal is if the firearm were manufactured prior to 1898 or did not use fixed ammunition. Check the FL laws, not sure what they may say.

I would call myself an "opinionated traditionalist"... -Best rifles are single shots and leverguns -Bigger calibers are generally better -Automatic pistols are almost worthless for most of what a handgun is used for -Pistol calibered rifles are nearly worthless -Firearms are just that; FIREARMS. Plastic has no place on or in a firearm. Blued steel and Black Walnut. Does that make me a "snob"? I don't know. I just like what I like.

I will amend; .25 caliber or greater for big game. That gives .25-06, .25-35, and .250-3000, 3 calibers with 150+ years of deerkilling experience. Lot of deer wounded and r-u-n-n-o-f-t with 6mms and .243s, never mind the completely worthless .223/5.56. Ever hear of hydraulic deflection? Amendments on Traditional Seasons: -Rifle: Modern reproductions of arms manufactured before 1898 in calibers introduced before 1898 with iron sights would be permissible; A new Winchester 1895 (or an 1980s vintage Browning 1895) in .30-40 would be legal, while a .270 or .30-06 would not -Archery: Traditional broadheads may either be hand-knapped from flint or purchased through places found in Traditional Bowhunter magazine. Licensure: I am aware of the provision in TN law for those with valid leave papers; what I propose is a discounted rate for servicemembers (including Guard and Reserve) with a valid ID card not on official leave. Private property: I see TWRA meddling on what a landowner does on their own land as a property rights issue; if a hunter is hunting on public land or a 3d party's land (whether corporate or private) that would be the only way I would not have an issue with outside interference.

Thoughts in order: 1) Primitive equipment seasons would be in order; add 2-3 days on the front of each season. Primitive equipment to be defined as follows: Archery: Longbows with no modern hunting broadheads. Muzzleloader: sidelock rifles or any pistol with fixed sights of .40 caliber or greater. Rifle: the arm itself must be an antique under Federal law and be equipped with iron sights 2) Allow does to be harvested somehow during rifle season 3) Discounted licenses for individuals with valid military ID cards 4) Move minimum caliber for rifle season to .26. Sorry, a 6mm or smaller just isn't enough gun for big game 5) No licensure required for individuals hunting/fishing on their own land; if you're name's on the deed, what you do on YOUR land should be none of TWRA's concern.

Elk/Moose/Grizzly with .30-40 Krag.

Getting ready to leave Oak Ridge right now. Will have a 91/30 Mosin-Nagant on me to turn into cash. Wearing a maroon sweatshirt and fedora with NRA hatpin. Should be there about 1 or so.