Jonnin

This. I would say use a mount that does no damage if at all possible. Another idea: I think there is a kit out there that you can use to make your gun a reproduction sniper model -- which is mainly a reproduced period scope mount and maybe a reproduced scope (?). It still modifies/damages the gun, but at least its semi authentic and sorta cool looking.

Steel cases seem to do the most damage to the magazine lips (steel on steel) and extractor claw. If the gun is made to take it, or just generlly tough or well built, thousands of rounds of steel will do little -- a few thousand rounds of it in my makarov has done little, one magazine is now a bit damage and I had to polish a nick out of part of the slide that skims over the next round in the magazine. A few rounds of steel does little, it takes many before steel on steel wears something thin enough to notice and even more if the parts in question are well polished. Feed ramps should not take much of a hit, most of that is bullet on ramp action and the lip of the case should slide right over the slick ramp doing little to no harm. The other issue is any coating on the steel, some of them can build up in the chamber and create jams, so clean it up each time.

about all I can comment on here is the pf9 is fine for pocket carry, its quite small and thin. I carried the wider p40 in my pocket for several months but the trigger pull was too much for me, the p40 is the p11 frame and the pf9 is smaller still, so its not bad at all for a pocket gun.

I cannot remember if the original had were critters and vamps or not. I think it did not, the first time I remember being able to do that was the one where you could own a ship (similar to owning a house) which was daggerfall. The negative about the game is the ability to be insanely overpowerd after a few levels, every single one of them became a bit boring after you could wipe out an army single handedly. They tried to counter that in morrowind and oblivion, and sort of succeeded in oblivion. In oblivion they gutted the enchanting system and alchemy and weakened magic a lot, and those 3 were the main problem areas. Morrowind was the worst, with those 3 all being super powerful and the expansions making it even more unbalanced with super weapons and super armor at level 1 (dark bro armor, goblin armor, guard weapons from expansion area, etc).

I will have to give it a try. As an old gamer, I played TES 1 on a 386, and daggerfalls, and all the rest since.... but, I can wait for the price to fall before I get it.

On that note, I had a 2 shot .22 derringer and took a picture of it next to my 380. The 380 is bigger of course, but not by much. There are a number of even smaller 32s and such, NAA has a semi auto 32 IIRC. In the derringer sized package, you can get a numbr of 5 or so shot guns, many of them autos so your spare mags take you to 10 or 15 rounds easily. Now, the big derringers, the mags and so on, well take a look at what happens to a 44 magnum --- in a 2 inch barrel it has the SAME or LESS energy as a 9mm in a 2 inch barrel. The 357 also has less than a 9mm in a 2 inch barrel. I dunno what causes that, type of powders used, but look it up if you want, its not helping to go mag in a tiny gun. So my advice is to look up some data, then shop again well informed about what you are getting into.

Our cold gold trophy was right at 1000 new. I think they may have a couple of other models in the ballpark price. I am not sure if the GT comes in black or not.

if its in the truck, get the cheapest one you can get like I do the, they run $30 or so for rifles if I remember --- the last couple I got were handguns and those were $10 at sportsmans wareshouse or academy. I carry my small guns on my permit but the handguns with red dots are too fragile for that and a couple of them are just too big to carry without a lot of hassle. All it has to do in your case is protect your scope (if any), and hide it, and for that anything works.

what are you going to do with it? I use the cheapest thing I can get, but I do not carry mine so the handle/snaps/hinge can be cheap. One cheapo rifle case lives in the trunk, 6 or so cheap handgun cases carried in the range bag(s). All they have to do for me is keep the gun from being hit by anything shifting while driving or load/unload the trunk, mostly they exist to protect optics for me. If you actually carry them around, bang them around, or whatever else, your needs will drive up the costs from there, from the cheap junk that I use all the way up to the lockable, durable gorrila test ones you would use if you took the gun on a plane ride.

Just because Bush did something does not make it right. Bush made a number of mistakes and caused a number of problems --- not all of them related to executive privilege. However, whatever mistakes Bush made, they pale beside the green energy scandal. I am not aware of bush doing anything like that, where the company is given a loan by the government and then donates that money back to campaign finances.... that is blatent criminal behavior. I do not care which member of what party, that sort of thing should lead to jail time. If Bush did that, he should also be held accountable.

I have the .40, its very nice. +s: small size, comfortable grip that is configurable, tame recoil for it size (its still stout in a 40), 100% reliable. -s: too fat, fishook safetys, a little boxy, magazine pinky rest does not stay closed on mine. All in all a B+, if it had been a bit thinner and less snagtastic it would get the A+.

my 223 pistol came with a 10 round mag, though it takes the bigger ones. All old guns from the ban years were 10 or less, and still are in CA if not other states (?). A number of compacts are 10 shots; my cz rami has a 10 round small mag and extended mags that hold more, too many to list it could be *anything* -- including downloaded mags. I often just put 5 or 10 in my mags even when they hold more, easier to keep track of the ammo on the range.

Its too early. If an impeachment hearing is done, lets wait until 6 months before the election...

unloaded, any magazines unloaded, ammo and gun not within hands reach of each other. Some say to transport action open, esp long guns. In the box is fine, concealed means on or nearby your person within reach, not in its box in the trunk. Honestly the trunk could be called concealed if the box could.

my computer!

I really like it. The print and background are easy on the eyes, you can surf the web, play simple games, and of course read any book from a huge selection, including a number of freebies. Current/new books are pricy, almost as high as the printed version, but that is the only real negative, I expected electronic books to be cheaper. You can also subscribe to many a newspaper or magazine on them for paperless enjoyment. Money well spent, if you like to read. There are probaly 100k pages of books on mine after only a year.

Lack of grip safety and that silly bushing are a bonus to me, I wish the full size 1911s would lose those as well. Glad you found one so fast, hope it is everything you wanted and more. Next step is reloading for it, darn high priced 380... check the recoil spring, the original type does not last, mine died somewhere between 500 and 1000 rounds. New design seems to be a far better approach.

My experience was similar to the above. My 238 (one of 2 of them...) locked open before the mag was empty, 1/3 shots or so. I called sig and they told me I was hitting the mag release with my hand as I fired due to the small gun size. I told them I had 2 of the same model gun and only one did that, same thing, It was shooter error not the gun, blah blah. They did not want to help me so I had my gunsmith poke at it, he fixed it for free, shaved off a nanometer from something, probably the inside of the slide stop. I do not know if sig would have fixed it or not, or how they would have handled it, because the initial phone conversation removed all confidence in their ability to provide any service. Could just be one person who answers the phone making the whole place look bad, that happens at larger companies, but I do not have a lot of good things to say about a "blame the customer" approach to problems.

Beretta is stepping up to make that nano, which looks like a single stack 9mm glock to me. Of course the trigger is going to be crud (compared to 238), but it looks to be fairly small and thin. My wife's 238 was $500 LNIB/used from a gun store, mine was a little over $600 new. I have not seen another used one but if you searched far and wide, you may score one. Or maybe not so hard, this one is under $400 Sig Sauer P238 Rosewood .380 ACP w/night sights : Semi-auto at GunBroker.com currently.

The new agent/defender comes in several calibers including .45 if you prefer, but the "standard" is 9mm or at least that is what I have seen the most of in the platform. The sig is very thin and lightweight. Try this link to compare it to others: Genitron.com: Handgun Selector though often width is lacking. The width of mine as best as I can measure it here is 7/8 from the OUTSIDE of the slide release lever (so this is the max width) while the "true body" width is abut 3/4. I can slip the sig behind my wallet without a holster and it is GONE, fits perfectly and vanishes into a space that no one would ever think twice about. It is enjoyable to shoot. If you are ever down this way you can try mine. The smallest space I have hidden it is a borrowed pair of the wife's jeans, women's jeans have virtually NO pocket capacity (or this brand anyway), my wallet was sticking out of the front pocket a little and the gun behind it, still totally invisible.

I carried one for years without a holster in my pocket. It fit pretty well in a generic nylon holster IWB but I hated that style of carry, still do. Tried it for a while and it was always an uncomfortable lump. Maks are great but a little heavy, so accomodate for the weight. The gun is awesome but outdated, is how I would put it. Accurate beyond belief (or the 9x18 versions are), reliable all day long, simple and easy to work on, rugged, and one of the best designs ever. The excessive weight, low capacity, large frame, and weakish caliber all point to either getting a smaller 380 or a 9mm in the same sized gun, IMHO, but that is not saying the mak is not a great piece (it is) its just saying that I feel there are better choices due to the small gun trend of the past decade. The gun was made to eat 9x18 so you can shoot the hottest 380s you can find without fear of hurting it -- its almost custom made for buffalo bore which is hard on some of the less rugged 380s. The 9x18 versions are a great bargain gun with cheap ammo and cheap guns, I never understood the 380 version, ammo never was that hard to find.

Following the money, I see an attempt to fire a man who is about to retire to prevent pension or benefits...

The sig is my carry gun when I am at work, where I sit on my butt all day long and find that large guns do not go well with office chairs and desks. It is small, slim, with a light, short single action trigger, a firm positive safety, an easy to use magazine release. It is reliable and accurate -- I can hit a quarter at 15 feet with it. It has much, much less recoil than the blowback 380s. The bad stuff: it fits your hands or it does not, its a bit small for some shooters. It is expensive. It has a low capacity. The new pinky extender +1 mags make a huge difference. The new agent/defender series is very nice but you are comparing a 9mm and a 380, which is not easy to do. If you can handle the 9mm recoil in a small frame, and the bigger 9mm frame fits your hands better and the extra difficulty in concealing the weapon is not an issue, the small 1911 9mm may be a better choice (colt or not, there are several others, para makes one, I forget who all). I cannot tell you if the sig is better than a particular 9mm gun, but I can tell you it is the best of the small 380s hands down. The next best 380s are as big as the small 9mm pistols (bersa, beretta, makarov, cz and similar), at which point IMHO there is no reason to get a 380, get the 9 instead. Take that with my bias: I find that the combination of a massive long and heavy DAO trigger, a blowback design, and a lightweight frame make for recoil so bad that it is very difficult to double/triple tap a target even at short range, which means the dozen kel tec clone pistols are all poorish relative to the sig by that metric. At the end of the day, the sig is a choice for deep, easy concealment and you give up a bit of firepower to get there (capacity and caliber combined). It is, IMO, one of the best choices you can make if that is the direction you are headed. If you are not goverened by size/weight constraints, branch out & look at many options before making a decision.

I have an older liberty presidential series, and it is awesome. It has not been in a fire and no one has tried to break into it, but it certainly seems to be well made and it stores a lot of guns. To be honest they all seem the same to me within a given price range... the more you pay (in general) the more space you get, the thicker the walls, the better the fireproofing, better warrenty/coverage, etc. I am not sure brand has that much bearing on it, as most safe companies seem to have products from small, thin, and cheap all the way to huge, heavy, and expensive -- and they look similar enough that I wonder if its just 3 or 4 base companies making them with all the different logos stamped on them afterwards...

I would not fool with the crimson trace or other gizmos yet. Spend that money on ammo and learn to point-shoot it at defense ranges. A laser sight is powerful in the hands of a skilled shooter, but it is a distraction and frustration for new shooters who get them thinking they will make shooting easier. They do not, they make it harder at first: the laser is distracting and extremely difficult to hold steady, esp on such a small gun, and esp on that trigger design. I think you will find it much easier to move to a laser after you have mastered the pistol, rather than starting out with it on there, and that way if the battery is dead when you get attacked, you are not crippled by loss of this tool. I use a remorra pocket holster, I like the way it sticks to the pocket so you don't pull the holster out with the gun. For these small guns, a second magazine is important to carry with it so you may want to look into a holster that can store a spare mag -- mine does not and I wish it did.