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  Ugh, this is the defeatist attitude I'm talking about.  It ain't gonna happen because people give up before they even try.  No, you're probably right.  it ain't gonna happen.  But giving a showing at least indicates that we're out there and there is support to bring it up again next year.  That's how these things get done.  But surely, by not trying you acheive the outcome that you predicted.  At least if you try and fail you can say that you tried.  By not trying to forfeit your ability to include yourself in the failure or acheivement of victory.  You are just a sideliner.

It actually is for me. I mail through an APO. Send me your traffic and addresses. I'll spend an evening hand jamming.

  Yeah.  I mean, I'll mail my rep and sen, but it'll take a lot more than just a few of us.  Why isn't there like, a metric crap-ton of posts in this thread already?  Regardless of the futility of it, we should give a proper showing.

  Or put on Wapner.

Agreed.  Let's make a plan.  Gonna need better social media than TGO and participation.

  Yep, I would agree with that.  I originally got the alarm shortly after I bought my house because I was in the Army at the time and would leave on long deployments.  Didn't feel safe having my wife alone.  I got the alarm mainly as a deterent, so that if someone were to break into the house with the intention of rape/murder, they would be deterred by the loud ass noise that won't go away.  It also serves as an early warning so my wife could get the pistol and lock herself in her room with her pistol pointed at the fatal funnel.  The peace of mind that came with getting that system is worth far more than what I paid for it.   The alarm functions in many secondary roles as well.  First, we had friends whose house burned to the ground with the family pet inside.  They had no smoke alarms in there tied to their system.  So this gives us a little more peace of mind when we're away from the house in regards to there being the ability to dispatch the fire department long before there are flames shooting out your windows.    Also, I suffer from "suspicious-noise-in-the-night" syndrome.  Before I had the alarm I would wake up at the slightest creak of the pipes or the frame and be convinced there was an intruder in the home.  I would not be able to sleep until I had cleared every last corner of the house.  My first night of sleep with an alarm system was the best sleep I had since I was a child.  I still wake up at noises, but can go back to sleep without the obsessive need to go Rainman on every inch of the house.    And lastly, it is the best deterrent.  Thing is, if a criminal wants to do something, he is gonna do it.  So even with an alarm system, a dog in the yard, signs warning of an armed owner, someone could still victimize you.  It just boils down to how much work they want to do to get what they want.  Most criminals aren't willing to do the amount of work and assume the amount of risk associated with hightened levels of security, unless the prize is something greater than they could get elsewhere, easier.  So the idea isn't to be a fortress, just be a harder target than the people around you.  Criminals tend to case their jobs.  Present yourself as a harder target than the guy down the street and chances are they'll go to that place.   Nothing is 100%, but I do get the ass when I see folks talk about how useless alarms are.  They really aren't.  They are just as much a passive measure as they are an active measure.  The problem is, people don't put value on deterrents, they only put value on what is quantifiable.  Unknowns can not be quantified, and therefore require a little critical thinking; a skill that is lost on the majority of people.  Deterrents do work.  If they didn't then drug dealers wouldn't buy so many pitbulls.

Reminds me of when I had to call the police on an idiot neighbor who threatened my wife. I explained to the dispatcher that the cops better get to my house before I do. They were there in less than 5 minutes. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Ha, I was thinking the same thing. If I were to concur I would be telling the truth, because I have no other option.

  Yep.  Folks who are nuts enough to drive so aggressively tend to take pulling over as a sign that you're wanting to brawl.  Not to mention, this "pulling over" solution that everyone throws out doesn't work on many roads out there where there is no shoulder or there are sidewalks.  Near my house all the roads have no shoulders and steep drop offs into a ditch.  No place to pull over and I'm not driving 50 in a 35 just because the guy behind me is a lunatic.  The clear solution is for aggressive drivers to chill the hell out.

Hey, we all agreed on something! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Corrective action should have been the immediate response of the NCO in charge of this goat rope. Failure to comply with that corrective action should result in NJPs all around. The fact this made it on to the Internet rises it to the level of court martial and should end in a dishonorable discharge. Since they lack honor I suppose that would be fitting. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Ha, man you had me until about 2/3rds the way through your post. It sounds like you're coming around slowly, but still sticking to this "3rd party can't win" stuff. Well, you're right. It can't win because people like you say so. It's like saying, "I can't bang that hot chick over there because I'm too scared she'll say 'no'. Guess what, sometimes ya just gotta try, because the worst you can do is fail. Having a defeatist attitude leads to a self-fulfilling prophecy. And I'm not trying to turn this into a Ronulan thing. I'm just pointing out that you can't say it is silly not to vote for one of the two ruling class candidates, then turn around and say it's silly to fight against that same ruling class. Really, it's one or the other. The folks who aren't buying into the Republicrat racket ARE using their peaceful right to vote otherwise, as opposed to picking up muskets and stuff. Respect that; don't dismiss it. As for the picking up muskets stuff, we'll know when that's here. When it is I don't think there will be any question of it. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Well you may be in luck. Feel free to PM me. I'll be back in TN in the spring. You can tell me all about your easily to verify story and then we can step into the ring. It sounds like a good time. Other than that, I'm done feeding trolls. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Okay, you're a little right and a little wrong here. The point I was making about you finding the idea of revolt so ridiculous when we have a system to vote out our crappy leaders is that it is ironic you would have the same dismissive attitude towards someone using that vote toward a candidate they support, regardless of their chances. Isn't that the right way, after all? How can you, in one breath, say that armed resistance against opposition is silly so long as we have the power to vote yet in the same breath say it's silly to use that vote for anyone other than a member of the very ruling class we might oppose? Do you see why I would point that out? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

It's a chance they take. I know in areas where response times are long the criminals might not be scared off by an alarm, but most should. An alarm, at a minimum should be a deterrent from entering, however, at the least it will keep them from staying and taking anything that is well secured. In 3 minutes it's hard to break into safes and locate the hidden stuff. All the can do is grab stuff as quick as possible. Only so much they can take in that short amount of time. Imagine if their time was unlimited. At least the stuff they take only has monetary value unless they found the guns and jewelry unsecured. Otherwise, that's why we have insurance. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Two things. First, my "bullsh*t brothers in arms", as you put it, are my brothers. It is something, as I said before, you will never understand. Second, based on your past nature to troll threads I don't see how this should be any different. Perhaps I'm gonna come off as a dick to many who haven't seen your past behavior, but I'm calling bullshit, and I think you need to go. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

You obviously just came to this thread to troll. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

  When you see one of your brothers in a Flag draped casket then you might understand what it means and why this was beyond disrespectful.  Until then you have no damned idea.

  This isn't just a box with a flag on it.  You won't understand and imagine you never will make the attempt to try.

Anyone who has been up to the steam plant knows that place looks like a third world country in terms of litter. I don't get why people can't pick up after themselves. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I live in the city and have an alarm. The cops get there before they'd have a chance to remove and scoot out of there. Not to mention the 135 db alarm going off is kind of a buzz kill, letting the neighbors and the intruder know that things aren't right. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Because they're entitled little shit stains with no discipline and no sense of honor. Pretty much, no one has ever punched them in the mouth before. That is a big thing missing from our younger generation. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I think that depends on what you're getting for an ambi safety. I've done several on milspec 1911s and didn't have any issues. I've never owned a Springfield but I would just assume there are aftermarket ambi safeties made for them. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

The casket was empty. They were conducting rehearsals. Doesn't matter. The disrespect is the same. I don't care that they're young and have never been in a combat zone. They should f'ng know better, and if they don't they should have never put a uniform on in the first place. There aren't too many things that made me lose my mind and go full NCO nut-crusher while I was in, but if I saw this it would be off the scales if these were my troops or if these clowns were within choking distance. If idiots like these end up carrying my body some day I swear I will haunt their sorry asses until the day they die. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Now I want to see Sandra bullock naked. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk