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Thought maybe you would like to see the headwaters of the Chatooga River where it comes out of NC. I've mineral hunted all across that area of GA and NC.

For the 1st time in 30 years, TVA allowed the media to ride on the tram on top of the Flume. It was to show the progress they are making in repairing a section wiped out by a rock slide last year. Videographer Ashley Henderson shows us the ride.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk6RG_CpDrc

All I know is... 10 pounds of flour makes a hell'va big biscuit!! :yum:

My SS check should have went into my account today!!!   I wish to thank all of you still working for your contribution!!! :up:

  Yes, you're right.   Like I said in post #25... "You always discard the first half pint, or so, depending on the size of the still. This first part is called "foreshots" and contains amounts of undesirable compounds such as acetone and various aldehydes, and methanol." If you supply a steady low heat to a still, as the mash heats up and liquid starts out the condenser, this first part will contain the bad stuff!   The amount of alcohol in the mash and the rate the alcohol vaporises determines how fast the mash temperature increases, without changing the heat input.   You have four sections of liquid coming from the condenser... foreshots, heads, hearts, and tails. And when you hear the word "cut", it is the separation of each section. Heart is the best section for best flavor. Foreshots are discarded. Heads and tails are most of the time added back to new mash in the still, or used in a thumper keg. Also a percentage of the used mash can be added back also. This used mash is call "dunder". 

Guess I'm old school....   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67rslfF-QQU

Same thing happened in Cleveland. Guys were drunk, neighbors called the law about them shooting guns and getting wild. Law found a small still on back porch and jars of shine. Most of the time a small still won't get you much more than a fine... sometimes!

Just joking about the corn wine... but I'd say it was tried a few times when ATF showed up! :pleased:   If a person was making a small amount for themselves, family, and friends. And not selling any in large amounts, you wouldn't be on a "bad list" with the law. Many people have "granny stills" in the 5 gallon range and makes just enough for a few. I do know some who have "pee pots" in the range from 20-40 gallon stills.  This size with supply family and several friends. It's not sold... but a favor or donation is nice to receive. You start selling it for the money and you cross the line.

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  Let me first say... I have no first hand knowledge about anything to do with making alcohol ! :ugh:   But, I can tell you this...   If you get caught distilling, one of your charges will be not paying the tax on the alcohol at that location. This is every Mason jar with shine... mash that is in the still... and ALL mash on sight! If you got the idea that they are going to believe that you're really making beer or "corn wine" with a still next to the mash barrel... it ain't a going to happen! :rofl:   Now... if you got fruit fermenting, or making beer, you better not have a still anywhere around that location!   They also know rum is make from molasses, sugar, or other cane, like sorghum.   The bottom line is... if they show up, somebody run their mouth!

  Your uncle told you right.  To much heat and you take a chance on scorching the mash. Many of the old stills used in Alabama used double-walled stills and used steam for heat. This prevented burning the mash. If you apply heat slow, the alcohol will regulate the mash temperature as it vaporizers. As the alcohol percent drops in the mash it will get hotter. By-the-way... "mash" is fermented grain before distilling whiskey, bourbon, etc. It's called "wash" if fruit is used to make brandy, apple jack, etc.   Don't know any small "legal" distillery. You may have to search around on the net and see if you can find one?

Only thing bad about this is that black bar!!   Great post, David!

Yes.. the ATF doesn't like people to run a moonshine still at a fair or on TV! And one of the reasons is the possibility of an alcohol fire from the vapor with a lot of people near by.   You never want to run a still much above 200 because it will start to boil the water, about 173 to just over 200 degrees is the range.

  I didn't see that part. But like you said.. running only water it wouldn't matter.

Was that the still that Tickle and his friend made? The type stills Tickle and Tim was using on the show are called Submarine Stills. This type is the easiest to build and cost the least for the amount of moonshine they can run. They can also be made round, with the top and bottom made of wood. If made round, the bottom is buried in the ground about 5" to keep from burning the bottom out. The metal used was mostly aluminum, not the best, but they were made for money. Felt was used between the metal and wood and the metal was nailed on. They would need to have water in them a few days before they was used to swell the wood. The mash would seal any small leaks when fired. By necessity, the largest blackpot still operations have had something of an assembly-line orderliness. This site included 24 800-gallon submarine stills. Each row of 12 pots had two caps, two thumpers, and two condensers. Franklin County, Virginia, circa 1972. An operation of this size could make about 2,000 gallons of shine per run!

You never know when things will go from calm to high alert!   Good play on you part!

If you're thinking about distilling spirits, you need to do the research. And don't believe everything you see on the Moonshiners TV show! :ugh:   Here is a couple of good sites to look over...   http://homedistiller.org/forum/index.php   http://www.artisan-distiller.net/phpBB3/index.php   Different type stills will give different results, some better for drinking... some for fuel.   Many things you hear and see is just not fact. I guess if things are told over and over, after awhile they are thought to be true? Many seem to think using copper is the best metal to use for a still... well it is traditional... even Popcorn Sutton said copper is good, but stainless is better.   You may see where the first liquid out of the condenser is collected and a mouth full is drank and you may hear.." Boy that's good!". This is BS for two reasons... You always discard the first half pint, or so, depending on the size of the still. This first part is called "foreshots" and contains amounts of undesirable compounds such as acetone and various aldehydes, and methanol. And can give you a heck of a headache! Use it to clean gun parts. The second reason is proof. The first part off the condenser is pushing 175 proof... I don't know of anyone that can swallow a mouthful and can say anything for a few minutes! :panic:

Would you like to know the total number of Bigfoot sightings in Tennessee?.... 84(reported)   How many large cats are seen in Tennessee?.... almost 1,000 per year are reported. Percent said to be black?.... almost half.   Can you see a Bigfoot at any zoo in the World?.... No Can you see a large black cat at any zoo in the World?.... Most major zoos worldwide.   Large cats native to the USA.... Western Cougar, Eastern Cougar, Florida Panther, Jaguar.   Any species known to be "professionally documented" melanistic? Western Cougar, Eastern Cougar, and Florida Panther are not. Jaguar percentage known to be melanistic range from 6% to 40% depending on location.   Any documented cougar in the eastern part of the USA? A mountain lion killed on a Connecticut highway in June, 2011 was a wild animal from South Dakota that prowled almost 2,000 miles eastward before meeting his death 70 miles from New York City, genetic tests confirmed.   Nearest known Jaguar from Tennessee? Less than 2,000 miles. Confirmed in south Texas. Aug 21, 2012 – Protected Territory Established(USFWS) for Jaguars in Arizona and New Mexico, total 838,000 acres.   Any possibility, or chance of a black jaguar ever being seen in Tennessee? Undecided.

  Yes, it still puts your name on the "list" even if you are not the one who is the original registered owner. Just another way to track a gun and owner.

  With 9999 Warning Points under my avatar... Somebody has been watching! :)

  No.. I'm not concerned.   This same topic was talked about on another forum several weeks ago. A member on that forum worked as a computer programmer. He was telling of the many ways that a virus is made and transmitted, how to hide identities, and other stuff that many wasn't  aware of.   "Do we need to watch your account activity?".... You mean you're not??!! :rofl:

  You do know a person can change their IP number? You can reset your number with your computer, but it will show the same general location. Using software, you can change your number to match any section in the USA... or any country in the world.

The buyer sets the price. Any item is only worth what someone is willing to pay... not a penny more, or less.

I was a licensed gunsmith about 30 years ago. Any time a firearm came in for repair it was logged in with all info and logged out when it was picked up. You had to have a record of all guns in the shop and any part with serial number, frame, etc. I was only checked one time, a friend in Georgia was checked about every month. I don't know the rules now, I would think a log would still be used?

  How would you know if a person had more than one account?