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Even with the "holie' logic",  I fail to understand why a large proportion of individuals involved in this discussion, at all levels, do not see the comparison.  Good job on the research and presentation.  Also a huge Kudo for being willing to discuss this with folks and to examine the effectiveness of your tactics and adjust your fire accordingly.  We must not let the lack of understanding or our perception of being over-run by opponents on this issue keep us from pressing on.   2 Kings 6:16-17 “Don’t be afraid!” Elisha told him. “For there are more on our side than on theirs!” 17Then Elisha prayed, “O LORD, open his eyes and let him see!” The LORD opened the young man’s eyes, and when he looked up, he saw that the hillside around Elisha was filled with horses and chariots of fire.   mrmoetn

Saw a new make (to me) of tactical flashlight at the gun show in Dyersburg this weekend. Tact Out was the brand and they looked pretty good and were offered at a reasonable price. Several models to choose from, usually sold as kits with mounting hardware, pressure switch, re-chargable batteries, charger, light with tail cap switch.....for around $100 - $130. The brightest one we looked at was 500 lumens. Looked really clean and bright (as best as I could see in the light of day in a lighted building). Looked promising. I searched the site (the flashlight thread specifically) and came up empty. Anybody had any experience with Tact-Out Flashlights?

That sounds kinda fun. Where are you acquiring your kydex sheets? Do you by chance have a link detailing the process you're using?

Here's another one I have been looking at for some time. Not so much "survivalist" but old ways... Primitive Skills | Earthskills Rendezvous

Here's North Jackson at 1530ish today. There was nothing on the ground when I went to bed at 01:30ish and sleet at 0600...

Sometimes I get sucked into that line of thinking in various areas of life...i like it...it's fun...maybe i can make a nickel...it's my duty to give back...THEN it turns into a job...and the fun is sucked right out of it and before long it's a large hassle the thought of doing whatever it is absolutely sickens me and the next thing I know...what used to be fun etc. is yesterday's hobby...my .02

+1 hot science chick...

Have any of you read Matthew Bracken's Books,the Enemies Foreign and Domestic trilogy? They portray life as you are describing it...The first one is a lead in and the second two are dealing with exactly what you all are describing. Luckily some of his characters live to see the end of the plot and the other side of the collapse but the scenarios that they encounter are VERY REAL and are set from Virginia across the country to California in various types of environments, the largest part of the third book is set from Corinth to Ft. Campbell and from the TN river to the MS river. The earthquake that ya'll describe is a major player.... GREAT READ if you haven't yet...you need to. Enemies Foreign and Domestic Web Site

Anybody ever make any deals via texasguntrader.com?

Caught this on the "Tactical Wire" e-mail list...we all need edifying in regard to safety... Fumbled Gun: Drop It! "A local serviceman was killed today after being shot during a training accident." That was the lead off by the talking head on the evening news. Based upon that statement you would assume that the person in question was negligently shot by another serviceman. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen. I watched the television report via the Internet and nowhere in the story were the hard facts about the situation reported. However, I am in possession of the facts of the case as the man who died was a member of the parent command of the unit I serve. The instructor cadre, of which I am a part, was briefed on the incident by the command's safety officer. What occurred on that fateful day follows. The serviceman was shooting a pistol qualifications course. During one of the stages shooters are required to shift the gun from their dominant shooting hand over to their non-dominant or support hand. This was where things went wrong. The man lost control of his pistol, how or why doesn't really matter. It's an imperfect world and stuff happens. Rather than letting the pistol fall to the ground he reached out to grab it. The M9 service pistol was in single-action trigger mode (safety off) as he had just fired two rounds. When the shooter grabbed the pistol it was inverted with the muzzle pointing back toward his chest. One of his thumbs found its way into the triggerguard and the weapon fired. A single full metal jacketed 9mm round passed through the center of his chest cutting a vital artery. He died on the range. The knee-jerk reaction from some of the safety officers was that this would not have happened if there had been more dry fire or holster training. That just doesn't wash. You don't practice the proper way to drop a pistol with dry fire. Two main factors caused this tragedy to occur. First and foremost is human nature. You've been catching objects since you were in kindergarten or earlier. If something starts to accidentally fall, you reach out and grab it. Everyone does this. We're pre-wired to do it. The second factor is that, although there was a lengthy briefing prior to commencing live fire, nowhere in the safety brief did the Range Safety Officer ever discuss what to do if you last control or fumbled with your pistol. Couple that with the fact that military personnel are generally ridiculed and often punished for dropping a weapon and you have a recipe for disaster. Whether you are an individual shooter, trainer, or range safety officer you must understand and address the dropped/fumbled gun possibility. The issue isn't such a big deal with long guns but when dealing with handguns it is definitely a situation that must be spoken to. It is really as simple as this, if you fumble your gun, let it go. All modern firearms have passive safeties to prevent 'drop firing'. If your pistol is too pretty or too fragile to be dropped you shouldn't have it our on the range. Bottom line, we don't catch fumbled pistols. Drop it! Paul Markel is a former United States Marine and Peace Officer. He has been writing professionally for more than fifteen years and is currently a full-time Small Arms and Tactics Instructor for the U.S. Military.

Caught this over at GT: Still think that the lowest common denominator doesn't drag down society? Look at their ratings: http://www.apartmentreviews.net/rati...Apartments.htm ALBANY, Ore. - At the Oaks Apartments in Albany, the management can fly their own flag advertising one and two bedroom apartments - but residents have been told they can't fly any flags at all. Jim Clausen flies the American flag from the back of his motorcycle. He has a son in the military heading back to Iraq, and the flag - he said - is his way of showing support. "This flag stands for all those people," said Clausen, an Oaks Apartment resident. "It stands for the people that can no longer stand - who died in wars. That's why I fly this flag." But to Oaks Apartment management, Clausen said, the American flag symbolizes problems. He was told to remove the red, white and blue from both of his rides, or face eviction. "It floored me," he said. "I can't believe she was saying what she was saying." Even long-time residents like Sharron White, who has flown a flag on her car for eight years, has been told to take it down. White said management told her that "someone might get offended." "I just said to her 'They'll just have to get over it,'" White said. Resident we talked to who had been approached to take down their flags all told us the same thing: that management told them the flags could be offensive because they live in a diverse community. Attempts to find out for ourselves why management would ban flags were unsuccessful. KATU wanted to talk to management at Oaks Apartments, but no one has returned our calls. The woman we were told had made the decision said she was "not going to answer any questions." The mother of one soldier fighting in Iraq put up a poster in her son's apartment window when she learned of the ban. Her son's roommate said he'll risk eviction to make sure it stays. Another Oaks Apartment resident, Judith Sherer, doesn't have a car. Instead she carries an American flag around the complex to protest the ban, and wonders if the flag pin she wears is next to be "singled out." "If I put it on and I walk outside, what's going to happen?" Sherer muses. "Am I going to be confronted by a manager about this?" We're told the ban includes sports flags and even flag stickers on cars.

In that price range, you're pretty much narrowed down to the Mossberg Silver Reserve or something close to that. It is O/U. Beware of older models as I understand that they have parts breakage issues (firing pins) and are difficult to obtain service on locally. You definitely need a 12 ga. Stay away from side by sides. If you are just getting into the sports I'd suggest a Remington 1100. Doesn't have to be anything special but will shoot a lot easier on your shoulder than the O/U, especially if you're a beginner. It'll be easier to find a used 1100 in that price range than much of anything else. Later you can graduate to a 1100 Trap or Sporting as your tastes are refined...you can get into one of those for around $1K. Nose around Gunbroker and or trapshooters.com. There's a shooting range in Chatt but for the life of me I cannot recall its name...get on over there and get into the crowd somebody's always selling shotguns moving to something else...maybe they have something older / better that you could get into cheaper than off the shelf. Hope the info helps.

I'd have to cut out that section...frame it...and put it on the wall of my shop as a reminder...everybody makes mistakes. Luckily everybody (except the comforter) lived through this one. Thanks for posting...we all need reminders.

Were there any cameras there? Anyone filming? Audio recording? Transcripts available? Anybody know?

.270 or .308 if you're ok with a little more recoil.

What do you say in the face of stupidity like this??? New Government Policy Imposes Strict Standards on Garage Sales Nationwide - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com

Does anyone know if this will be streamed via internet or broadcast on some other medium? If not, are there any plans to video this and post to youtube or something like that? I have prior engagement that will prevent me from attending and I'm sure there are many in the same boat who would normally be present at something this important. Thanks to UT Martin for "commemorating the constitution".

Spaceman, pm sent on brass. Shoot me an email if it's still available.

Venison Primal and Cuts Charts Hers's one way to do it. This guy makes it too hard: This is the way to do it: Deer Processing There are better versions (video quality) of this video out there but i can't find them right now.

Yes. I won't go if guns are allowed. - 35.3% Yes. I won't go unless guns are allowed. - 37.3% No. I'll go in regardless. - 22.4% Not sure - 5.0% Total Responses - 459

I'd agree, I've always interpreted the "intent of going armed" as on my person. I'm not a lawyer either...I know that there's no CLEAR way to write all the laws to suit everyone...but I'd swear they write em to confuse us. I'm a teacher at a private school. The it's really important to me to carry everywhere. I've always used 1309 to support my claim that i could take off and lock in my vehicle in the am and put back on when i leave in the pm. I hope I'm not on shaky ground. But the reality is...that as clear as that reasoning is to me...it could be interpreted and twisted many different ways by different DA's in different jurisdictions or between different prosecuting attorneys.

Bombard them with emails and phone calls. Get your TFA and TGO people there. We just fought this battle in Madison County. Our local shooting club has 200 ish members. Our instructors have already taught several hundreds of students in carry classes this year already. One city councilman entered all the pro-gun letters he'd received into the meeting record...21 letters...That's all he'd received? 21? Local gun owners are going to have to get more and more involved as these issues important to us become more publicized. Gun owners are not by nature (in my experience) extroverted people. We're gonna have to get on the stick and strike while the iron is hot !!! Go get em.

TCA 13-17-1309 ...© (1) It is an offense for any person to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any firearm, not used solely for instructional or school-sanctioned ceremonial purposes, in any public or private school building or bus, on any public or private school campus, grounds, recreation area, athletic field or any other property owned, used or operated by any board of education, school, college or university board of trustees, regents or directors for the administration of any public or private educational institution. It is not an offense under this subsection © for a non-student adult to possess a firearm, if the firearm is contained within a private vehicle operated by the adult and is not handled by the adult, or by any other person acting with the expressed or implied consent of the adult, while the vehicle is on school property. 39-17-1310 speaks to defenses to a charge of carrying on school grounds. This is where the "picking up and dropping off" language is used. Does 1310 modify 1309 to mean that the only reason a person with a firearm could be on campus is to drop off and pick up?

I realize that we're a GUN board but I believe that this attempt to limit our liberty falls under the same heading as many of the gun related items we strongly oppose. Below is a notice I received from a mailing list (The Shooting Wire). Part of this article discusses a move by the Customs and Boarder Protection to broaden the definition of a switchblade to set precedent for the interdiction of the types of knives that many of us carry daily. Notice that they are not accepting communications via email on this matter, only written communication, and that must be received by June 21. Kniferights.org has a suggested letter with all the salient information for voicing your objection to this action. Knife Rights - Home - FEATURE ARTICLE Various & Sundry ...And it's not exactly your firearms under attack this time, but a decision from the feds at Customs and Border Protection has knife owners more than a little on edge. On May 21, CBP proposed revoking earlier rulings that said assisted-opening knives were not switchblades. That sounds innocent enough, but the proposal is so broadly based as to make virtually any one-hand opening or assisted opening knife a switchblade, even simple slip joints. Today, just to give you an idea of the potential impact of such a ruling, eighty percent of U.S. knife sales would fall under the new CBP reclassification. Not good. Also not good was the method CBP used to insert their proposal into regular notices, almost as if they hoped no one would notice and the 30-day comment period would expire. People noticed. Our friend Doug Ritter, founder of KnifeRights.org, for one. When Ritter contacted us several days ago, he hinted that something was going on that had the potential to have a severe impact on knife ownership. That's because the impact of the CBP ruling would go far beyond just imported knives. Often, "agency determination" is used by domestic courts and law enforcement to determine what is a "switchblade" under both federal and state laws. Many states do not themselves define switchblades and simply rely on the federal definition and interpretation, which is only found in rulings by CBP. Since interstate commerce in switchblades is prohibited, except under very limited conditions, simply driving across a state line with a pocket knife in their possession would make someone a federal felon. Ritter and hundreds of others protested to CBP, asking for an extension of the comment period. On Wednesday, that request for an extension was denied, meaning, that barring some sudden change of heart, the CBP will proceed with the revocation. So what does that mean? "If their new ruling is accepted and put in place, says Ritter, "the next step will be seizing a warehouse full of imported one-hand openers, which they can legally do, declaring them to also meet their now very broadly defined interpretation of what a switchblade is. They came very close to doing that a few years back in a seizure involving Columbia River Knife & Tool." "With this ruling in place, they would succeed. Then the definition of what is a switchblade is expanded even further. It is this that has knife owners and the knifemaking industry up in arms, because our lawyers understand how these bureaucrats use these rulings and language games to get well beyond what it appears at first glance they are reaching for." Now, KnifeRights.org and the Second Amendment Foundation have teamed up to try and get together a grassroots campaign to help Customs see the error of their ways. There's one rub - the comment period ends on June 21 and only written comments sent via FedEx/UPS or USPS will be accepted. As Ritter points out, failing to protest the move will only open the door for the inevitable expansion of the definition. There's a model letter available if you're interested in letting Customs know you don't appreciate their proposal. You can see it at Knife Rights - Model Letter to Customs and Border Protection The knife you save may be your own. --Jim Shepherd

What kind of time frame are we thinking / planning? Summer is filling up quickly.