Oh Shoot

Thanks, but as I mentioned in earlier post, only B&O suppositories for moi, if they still make them. - OS

The more I think about it,assuming one's liver is up to par, the more I'm thinking you and Lester are probably right about that. - OS

Don't see why that would be. It all has to go through the liver same way no matter how it gets in the blood stream. Maybe it would be overall shorter duration since it's absorbed faster and wouldn't keep getting more absorbed because of residual amounts left in stomach, but wouldn't think once same % is in bloodstream from either method it would make much diff. See no reason why it would cheat a hangover either. - OS

I got several I need to limber back up. PM'd ya.

Why wouldn't impact certification cover that? It's defined as a "club". Statute says certification "By any person possessing a club/baton who holds a certificate that the person has had training in the use of a club/baton..." - OS

They generally have the regular blued Italian made 92FS, 2 mags, for $520 + $20 ship. You could get started with that. I won't be calling them for a while. I bought a couple of AR lowers to stash. Just to stash, not build. Yeah, right. - OS

Gorgeous. Have wanted one for a good while, too. CDNN has shown them in their catalog for $600 for last several months, but never have them in. They claim they do get some time to time . They don't do a notify though, so you just have to call a lot I guess. - OS

Don't guess you can get a new one without doing it. Reckon you can put on one from another rifle and hope headspace is okay. Seems I read something somewhere about a guy tried one that he couldn't physically close breech. "greybeard" forums seem to be the fount of all handi knowledge http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/index.php?board=126.0 - OS

Yes, and I think TN $10 state fee is what JayC is referencing. - OS

Tip O'Neill coined the phrase, "All politics are local." And it's mostly true, as most folks vote based on the perceived benefit to their own short term benefit, and predominately financial benefit. Often based on a single and overall relatively insignificant issue. Often based on little more than likeability, or religion, or race, or sex. Concepts of constitutionality, freedom, individualism, and even the commonweal for future generations just aren't significant issues for the mainstream voter population. And remember, less than 60% of voting age population even votes at all in presidential elections. And that's probably a good thing. We'd be so much better off if we only voted for House of Representatives, and held their feet to the fire for everything. - OS

Hell, she looks just like Sarah in flick. I thought it was probably relatively accurate about the whole saga. The degree to which she becomes basically unglued at one point is perhaps most controversial, though at least one former aide calls it pretty much dead on. One thing that was perhaps unrealistic was McCain's constant profanity in the flick as opposed to real life, he says he doesn't use "that much" profanity. Maybe. Of course, Palin and McCain both said they didn't watch it. Right. Bottom line is that it sure is entertaining for a political junkie, though. And nobody sued anybody either. - OS

My guess: person lives in apt. complex with dumpster. Or long driveway down to garbage can on street. Forgot to stop and drop it on way out. Reason: I've done it myself (with bag inside the vehicle though). - OS

I don't think Julianne Moore is actually quite as jiggly as the McCoy. She won an Emmy for what she had though. - OS

There are 4 different .223 barrels listed on the add barrel program, so I guess there are 4 different ones out there in production. Only one has open sights on it, though. - OS

You see Game Change? I quite enjoyed it. - OS

I don't thing any of the rifles are branded NEF anymore at all, if you buy new. Also, once H&R1871 formed in late 80's and took them NEF over, again AFAIK, the only difference between a NEF and a HR handi-rifle was the receiver markings. I think some of the shotguns might still be under NEF brand, at least on paper, like Partner Pump, but dunno if it actually says NEF on them anywhere also? BTW, I do have an NEF handi in .30-30, and sent it in for work and a different caliber barrel. They fixed it all up for me, but wouldn't do the barrel, said something about that serial run of receivers they wouldn't do it because of something or other the way it was made. And of course all the work was handled by Remington, even came back in a Remington box. So for those reasons, if you buy used, I'd only get HR branded. Also, not the extra barrel program on their site, I'd make sure model was 2000 or newer and marked correctly do you could add a barrel if you like -- was main reason I bought the one I did to begin with, was gonna add a .223 barrel to cover two caliber bases. "Rifle barrels may be added to firearms manufactured since 2000 and only to frames (SB-2) that originated as a rifle, if frame passes inspection." http://www.hr1871.co...soryProgram.asp Even though mine was new enough, and was marked SB-2, they still wouldn't do it for my NEF particular one. - OS

Couldn't quote your "quote". "I have had great experiences with Ruger, so I cannot say the same about them. " Well, if you don't think Ruger cut corners with the 10/22, what with more polymer parts and gooped on paint, you're definitely drinking their KoolAid. Even bumping up to the Sporter still doesn't get you a blued barrel. I don't fault them for it, it was either that or raise prices. And the gun runs as well as the older ones. And the current Marlins will probably run about as well as they always have, too. Might even improve. Getting rid of the designed in propensity for the eventual "Marlin Jam", would be nice. Some folks claimed that quality control was suffering before Remington (et.al.) even bought them, could have been cutting corners with old equipment and whatnot to max profits back then, don't have any idea. And currently, really not sure about these companies "maximizing" profits as much as just trying to keep about the same profit plus the same traditional rate of growth. Certainly, the overall balance of spit and shine and utility vs price are spread sheet micro managed all the way up through Freedom and Cerberus. One things for sure, Marlin is the only modestly priced US lever gun maker, so it's not like most have a lot of alternatives, and hence I'm pulling for them. Maybe they'll increase their line of better finished options, but those will be right up there with Henry at the least. If Remmie has any sense, they'll turn out as many .357 models as possible, has become THE most sought after level model. And btw, the 1894s still use real walnut and are pretty nicely blued, like the standard 336. Course, we'll never see bluing again like up through maybe the the mid 70's on any production gun in America. - OS

TN residency is established as soon as you say it does if you can show rent or utility receipt, paystub, etc. As far as "they" know, unless they had reason to dig, it's most likely when TN DL or tags were issued. - OS

Damn Glocks are like fleas, you can't hardly keep them off ya. - OS

Pre 1983 or so depending on model. That'll take some real looking for most folks. - OS

few initial comments from a 336A, 1897c, and model 60 owner. 1. At least one new Marlin 60 I know of had the Mayfield, KY on it. Dunno if all 60's are gonna come out of there or not. 2. You didn't say about the 336's you handled. Where did they say they were made? Talked to a fellow not long ago that said they haven't shipped the first lever gun in any caliber yet from the new locations is reason I asked. He could have been dead wrong or they have now just started shipping. 3. Also, the barrel stamping is not as simple as you say. I just recently acquired a new Model 60SB, seems to date to 2009, and mine says made in North Haven, but has "RP" on barrel. This would seem to indicate that many were stamped this way after Remington bought Marlin, but long before the plant was moved. Friend Garufa also just acquired same model, and his barrel, made in North Haven, has no identifying stamp at all. I believe his was a 2006 model. 4. There is also the possibility that there are left over barrels from various calibers that will be put on guns, in other words will say North Haven but rest of gun made/assembled in the new locations. And btw, folks over on MarlinForums.com have been decrying the Marlin slip in fit and finish since Remington bought the company at end of 2007, and started called them "Remlins" even then. And the lighter stock has been mentioned for a good long while, so I don't think that has anything to do with new plant production, but more about changing wood vendors for the birch along the way, and/or a change in how they are finished. Which is why I ask again, did they say KY or NY on them, or CT? Also remember, the Dicks and Wally models are the W or A models, and have been since forever, which are not walnut as in the plain 336, which still commands about a $50 price differential just because of the wood alone. (I didn't go over to MarlinOwners.com) to check up on latest, but that's the place for more definitive answers to some of the transition factoids. Some of those folks know more than Marlin or Remington themselves). Final point is that most all manufacturers have now cut corners on their mainstream pedestrian guns rather than significantly raise pricing , Ruger 10/22, Remington 870 Express, etc etc. It's not like Marlin is unique in this. - OS

I would say the longevity largely depends on the alloy. MIM is a process, depends on nature of the steel powder compound, and the quality of the rest of the molding process too of course. A void would generally make the part fail no matter what it's made of. There have been voids in some very high end knife sintered steel knife blades, too, when the process got out of spec. Material specs and tolerances and quality control are everything for any kind of process. And no, one shouldn't expect the same level of MIM quality from Kel-Tec as from numerous others who use it. Of course, you're not paying to get it in the first place. There's a reason KT says all their guns have a 6,000 round life expectancy. That's actually pretty good for their mouseguns (though I'd say overly optimistic), but not so confidence inspiring at all for their rifles. - OS

Nope, the lever behind trigger is attached to hammer block. If it has that, and isn't broken or something, it's safe. You can perform the test I indicated in post 12 to see it in action assuming breaking the gun open doesn't lock up the action. Any H&R that has that lever behind trigger has the hammer block safety, that's part of its operation or it wouldn't be there. As I said, in this feature, H&R was ahead of its time. Also, Charter Arms actually had the first transfer bar revolver, at least in nationwide gun makers, although most think it was Ruger. Ruger's and Charter's bar get "in the way" to trigger frame mounted firing pin, H&R's gets "out of the way" to let hammer firing pin go fully forward. That's a beautiful heater, btw! - OS

Yeah, he seems to be talking about same thing, calls it a "transfer bar". Is actually the opposite, it blocks hammer from going all the way until trigger is pulled, then relaxes to allow it to go the last bit forward. Here, using your own pix: That is the lever that is attached to the hammer block, it frees the block when trigger is pulled. You'll notice the trigger goes all the way back against the trigger guard before it trips. That is the actual trigger block. Note that it is rigid, doesn't move in this position. While holding hammer back, pull trigger all the way back and you;ll see it frees, will wiggle. You can't see actual operation of the block, but when free to move it goes forward and/or down into recess in frame some how or other to allow hammer to go that little bit more forward enough to hit the end of the cartridge. You can also simply do the test I described in first post. The firing pin part of the hammer will not penetrate all the way though the front of the chassis to reach the cartridge unless the lever behind the trigger is depressed. It's possible you can't do that one if having the cylinder flopped out locks the action. My action is still free since the cylinder in the 922 comes all the way out of the pistol and doesn't affect the operation of the rest of the action. But the locking block operation is the same in both our models. - OS

They are both made from powdered steel. CPM is simply one patented sintering or crucible process for making solid steel alloys from what starts as powdered metal, just like MIM. Of course, hardness and tempering are different, because they are for different purposes. S30v would suck as a gun steel, just about anywhere it could be used in one. Hell, it sucks as a knife steel, if hard use, flexibility, and easy resharpening are concerned, as with "survival knives", where tool steel indeed shines. And btw, "tool steel" classification is conventionally made steel, is not a sintered (powedered/crucible) process. - OS