bersaguy

Daughter must be a chip off the old block huh.............. :up: :up: :rock:

Well he was suppose to put a little cash in with the deal but he thought both the trade guns were worth gold and my thought was they were more tin can price so he left mad. Will find an owner for the Sig since my daughter loves my Bersa's and thats what she wants so gave her a new one I had in safe that has only been to the Range once to get sighted in and tested. She will practice with it till the class at the end of the month. I will replace it when I sell the Sig.

LOL............Depending on where some people live they don't just take a gun when they go hunting. Take take it the toilet, Kitchen. and even sleep with one at night............ :up: :up:

Sorry D-S but I have to ask this question? Why do you hate your thumb that much that you keep abusing it so bad?......... :ugh: :ugh:

That is exactly why I got into my own business shortly after coming home from Service. I stated out in my garage , then got an Exxon Station and even though I was considered a dealer in my own business Exxon still had their hands into to much control of me so when my 2 year lease expired I went and rented a building later buying the building and later the lot next to it for parking and expanding my existing building. When I became unable to actually do physically manual labor I turned it over to my son and grand son and walked away and went fishing. My son worked for me for a few years and I taught him how to run the entire operation and then his son joined him and it again became a father and son operation and still is with employees now.

in all honesty when they discuss unemployment numbers and the number of people that have dropped out of looking for jobs I do think a lot of them feel as you do and are starting up self employment small businesses because they get burned out of looking. I do know about 5 of my friends that done is so far.............jmho

Now that had to hurt.................OUCH!!!!!!

Huh??? I see lots of Cracks beneath those beautiful black expendable projectile pieces of machinery.......... :up:  :up:  :up:  

ok , I'm gonna ask, How did you smash your thumb?

My thought exactly.......... :up:

Welcome to TGO and as you can see the folks are great here and always willing to answer questions and offer good advice. Don't worry so much about fitting it and about your gun printing as most folks down here can spot a person that is armed without a print at all. don't worry- be happy as the saying goes............ :up: :up:

Another thing that ticks me ff about employment these days and this may be what Raoul is talking about is all or most all companies big and small are using employment agencies rather than doing their own interviewing and hiring. The person must go through an employment agency to get assigned a job at a certain location of company and the you are only hired on as a temporary employee and faced with a point system and if you get to many points you get fired. If you get fired from a position that employment agency will not allow you to apply with them again. To me that is a total Crock of BS. i have a grand son that was born with ADHD and he graduated High school on the honor roll and he has always applied 100% to what ever he does and at times when the ADHD begins to affect hm he has to go in for his shots which means taking a day off from work. Doing that can be 1 to 2 points against your employment record and they take nothing into consideration even when employers are made aware of his health issue in advance. He has had difficulty obtaining anything permanent beyond fast food jobs even though he has been trained on computer technology. he finally got someone at Dell ( A friend of mine) in Lebanon to speak up for him and Dell put him on without using an agency on a 90 day trial basis without a point system and understanding he has a health issue. He has now been with them for almost 7 months, been moved up two levels and has received two pay raises and is now a full time employee at Dell with all benefits. Al he needed was someone to bite the bullet and give him a chance that he would never get through these BS agencies.................jmho  

wileecoyote, on 08 May 2014 - 12:59 AM, said:   "If a threat emerges or advances near your safe room, you call out loudly that you are armed and will shoot to defend yourself if needed, ordering them to leave immediately, and that police are on the way."   I just don't think that yelling out loudly from a safe room would be my choice in this situation because if the perp / intruder / intruders are armed the might just begin shooting into the room endangering you and your loved ones. I am going to be the one that begins sending hot lead down range first and letting my firearm do the talking and then if they are able they can run or do what ever they are able to do at that point. I by all means want the be the one that shoots first and a lot to protect my family.....jmho

I cannot remember at what time employers began using the term you are over qualified for a position but to me that is just Royal BS that they use to politely turn you down for employment. Like I said, I operated an automotive repair center for most of my life after returning home from service because of my love for cars and my love for working on them. I know most folks will laugh at this because of that commercial on TV but my business began in my two car garage. My son and Grandson now operate the business and they have 8 employees. All great techs and my son pays for them to continue their automotive repair education my sending them to training seminars. I had to laugh about a year ago when he called me up and ask me to come up and help him out with a  few problems. He needed some Carburators rebuilt and none of his techs nor he knew anything about how to do it. They can fix the most elaborate Fuel Injection systems on the market but can't rebuild a Quadra jet  4 barrel carburetor and get it to work or a 650 dual pumper Holley and get the float levels sent properly and cause them not to flood out. I picked out one of his techs and gave him a crash course on building carburetors. He had a rash of older cars showing up that people where beginning to drive again. Old Camaro's and Mustangs and there was even a 1957 Chrysler Crown Imperial with twin carter AFB carbs on a 392 Hemi. I spent two weeks up there working on carbs and showing this young tech how to build them. I was impressed with this young man because he was quick to fire out a question if he didn't understand something. The hardest part of the two weeks was finding carburetor kits for cars that old. Then we had an issue show up and on of all the cars for it to happen the Crown imperial after building the carbs and it was sitting there idling just shut off. I told my son to check the spark and he said none. I told him to bring the motor up on TDC(Top Dead Center) and pull the distributor out and he did. I looked at the points and it was as I expected. A copper strap broke on one set of the dual points. I removed the Vacuum advance plate and turned it up side down and the broken piece fell out on the work bench. He ordered new pair of points and condensers and I put them back in the distributor with my young tech watching my every move. had my son replace the distributor back in with rotor button on #1 and that old Chrysler came back to life running perfect. I really miss being able to work on cars but I mean real cars like that old Chrysler. There was more metal in one front fender of that car then there is in 3 new cars today. Anyway back to the original reason for this thread. I would have never turned away a person because he was over qualified for a job but the reason employers do is because they figure just about the time they get you trained in your lower paying job an opening will come up in a company you are qualified for and at a much higher pay level and you will leave for the job you wanted and qualified for. That is what the major turn over is in fast food is about. Over qualified people finding their dream job and leaving to build their future..............jmho

Great Weekend !! A balding white haired man from Naples, Florida walked into a jewelry store this past Friday evening with a beautiful, much younger gal at his side. He told the jeweler he was looking for a special ring for his girlfriend. The jeweler looked through his stock and brought out a $5,000 ring. The man said, 'No, I'd like to see something more special.' At that statement, the jeweler went to his special stock and brought another ring over. 'Here's a stunning ring at only $40,000, the jeweler said. The lady's eyes sparkled and her whole body trembled with excitement. The old man seeing this said, 'We'll take it.' The jeweler asked how payment would be made and the man stated, 'By check. I know you need to make sure my check is good, so I'll write it now and you can call the bank Monday to verify the funds, and I'll pick the ring up Monday afternoon.' On Monday morning, the jeweler angrily phoned the old man and said: 'There's no money in that account.' 'I know,' said the old man…. 'But let me tell you about MY WEEKEND!!!'

Back when i operated my automotive repair center i could care less about an applicants education per 12 years of education. My only concerns was is the person honest with no criminal record and does he have experience hands on Auto repair training and how many years. I can think of two times in my 35 years of operating a business that I knew i had hired a person with little schooling in book learning but both of them were great mechanics and I never regretted hiring either of them. I did regret losing them as their lives changed and they moved on.  I was never one to care about who they knew but what they knew was very important and in many cases what they didn't know I would teach them..................jmho

I feel sorry for your wife my friend because a good teacher can suffer from wanting to be a teacher but not being allowed to be one and I would imagine your wife comes home frustrated ever day............jmho

Well He left here an unhappy guy. He had a French MAB D and an Olive Green Kel-tec each with 2 mags. He said that he has talked with 6 of his buddy's that are local gun store owners and they all told him the MAB D was worth anywhere from 350.00 to 500.00 depending on the buyer and how bad they want it. I said well, it's not that i don't believe you because they may have told you that but a friend of mine that does not have a dog in this hunt at all specifically made it clear that is it was MAB D it was worth from 150.00-200.00 tops and I have a tendency to trust his word over hearsay from someone else. Then I said I would just rather not even discuss a trade of any kind even if your willing to add some cash because I know the amount your going to offer will be an insult and I would rather you didn't do that and he left and while going out the door he said I got a guy right now said he will give 300.00 for the French gun and i told him I hope the guy is not a felon because that is the only person I can think of that would pay that kind of money for junk....................... :up:  :up: Still have my Sig.......... :up:  :up:  :rofl:  

Well now I am convinced the guy does not have a clue what French pistol he has. I just spoke with him and asked him for a model number and he said all it says on the gun is it is a Pistolet imported from France which tells me nothing because when I typed that in google search it put up about 200 or more pictures of French guns but he is on his way over here with it and the Kel-Tec and when I asked him what model the Kel-Tec was he said it was Green 380. Went to buds to see what they had and they have about 5 or 6 green Kel-tec 380's listed so won't know anything about it till the guy gets here. This guy may be leaving here unhappy because I am not going to make a bad deal for my Sig on any junk he may be peddling. I have known him a long time and and we have made some good deals in the past but this one does not sound good right now...........jmho

Let us look at what education was back in the 50's and 60's when I was in school. you were taught actually what  would be needed in your future. Reading, Writing, arithmetic and spelling which are the four most important courses a person still uses every day even in the day of all the most modern technology. I use each of them every day in some form or fashion still today. There are 1000's of kids that graduate from high school today without those four simple skills which is totally unacceptable to me. If they are not teaching the basic 4 skills needed in the every day world, just what are they teaching? I was taught other courses that were used to fill a full school day such as Science, or biology in later years but the basic education for grammar school was reading, writing, spelling and arithmetic. Those are suppose to be taught to every student in grades 1-8 are they not?????  Can someone tell me what is being taught in the grammar school levels if the basics are not?...................... :rant: :rant:    

Channel 5 News Investigates did a report about this sometime back and did some interviewing with some of the street corner beggars and I was shocked t see how honest most of them were. They spoke with a couple guys that actually admitted that they make more money per day just asking for money than many people do working an 8 hours day. There was a few of them that have made it their life work and have developed a system of rotating locations so same people don't see them everyday. They move around to a select set of street corners by riding the city bus and when asked where they sleep and eat they say, the Mission or one of the homeless shelters. 3 different guys admitted they can make as much as 150.00 to 200.00 a day.  i had to laugh at one guy that I use to see on a street corner. He would hold a sign that said Vietnam vet, please help. I finally asked him one day how he was doing and he said I don't do well at all and don't know why. I said let me help you out. Find some new cardboard and make you a  new sign that says Desert Storm Vet needs help. He said why would that help and I told him because son, you were not even born when the Vietnam war was going on so how can you be a Vet from it. He looked at me and said gosh sir thanks and he walked away. I figure if he is going to make a living bumming he should at least be good at it..... :2cents: 

And all this time I thought CSI sent people in to clean up the mess after the investigation was completed.......... :shrug: :shrug:

Well, lets see. Last time I was asked to provide proof of my high school education by providing a diploma I told the potential employer that I had not seen my diploma since about a day after I receive it. I hung it on the wall of my parents home and while I was in the military they sold our ranch and moved twice during the time I was out of the country and you are the first company that has requested to actually see a copy of my diploma. The man said no diploma no job. I said ok and I went to the high school I graduated from in 1966 to get a copy of my diploma. Guess what? The school I went to is no longer a high school but a middle school and I am told that all the records of graduates from William James High School had been relocated to the Dickson County High School. I drive to the Dickson County High School and ask them for a copy of my diploma. Guess what? They cannot find a record of me ever attending Dickson County School. I explain to them that back then it was White Bluff High School and school name was William James High School. Back when they began re arranging all of the school systems and making all these stupid school levels like Grammar, middle, Jr High and High Schools all the records from all the schools in the existing schools were moved to the main county High school for safe keeping and now they tell me they can't find a record of me attending a Dickson county High School or graduating and I said well , lets see if you can find my diploma for my lawyer. I also learned that every person in my graduating class was having the same problem and none had a copy of their  diploma because they didn't want to fight them. Well I love a good fight, especially when I can show a county just how stupid they are about their record keeping and the future of many peoples lives. My Lawyer contacted the Dickson county School Board by way of a written  request demanding that the Dickson County School system produce a copy of my Diploma and all of my school grades and records. He gave them 10 days. The 10 days came and went with no reply. I guess they thought I was going to go away like the others did that asked for theirs did. Nope , my lawyers next move was to get a court order served on the Dickson County School Board Superintendent  to provide me with a copy of my diploma and the judge only gave them 10 days also. We ended up in Court about a month later and they said they told the court that they had no records of my ever attending a Dickson County High School And the judge ask them if they could provide proof I did not attend a Dickson County High School? And they said if they have no record of my attending a Dickson County High school that should be proof enough. The judge did not accept that and he then requested that the Dickson County School board provide any and all records of the William James High School of White Bluff Tennessee since they are now the operators of said school in a middle school level. They ask for time and the judge gave the 30 days. In 30 days they came back to court and their attorney had to admit that the Dickson County School Board had either misplaced or destroyed all of the records from William James High School during the transition of the county's school reorganization program. The judge calmly looked at the attorney and said you and your school system have lost or misplaced the papers and records that could effect the outcome of hundreds or maybe thousands of High school graduates futures. Sir, that is unacceptable. He said this cases is in recess for 2 hours in which I will make a decision as to what course of action the court will take on this issue.  (Now remember this all began because 1 guy at 1 company said he would not employ me as a mechanic without a diploma)    Back in court the judge had made his decision. He issued a court order demanding that from that date with was April 10th 1976 to the year 2025 the Dickson County School System is required by law to provide to any applicant requesting a copy of their diploma that attending the William James High School between the years of 1950 and 1980 a Dickson County High School Graduation Diploma. 1980 was when all of the records from William James High School were transferred to the protection of the Dickson County School system for safe keeping during the school reorganization. I found out later that three of my class mates actually sued the Dickson County School System for money due to the damage they had experienced because they had been denied entry into higher education programs because they could not provide the grade point averages required to enter the college to further their educations once they learned they could receive diplomas.  Yea, I admit it, I'm a trouble maker............ :stir: :stir:

Well I thank everyone for their input and as usual always get plenty of help when i ask for it. Now All I need is to see the gun tomorrow evening. The guy is really hot for this Sig I have to give his wife for her purse. Right now she has like I said  kel-tec 380 which is another gun i know very little about except I went and looked at Buds and the 380 Kel-tech they have , none of them are high priced. They are less costly then 380 Bersa's are. The guy is wanting to trade both of his guns and put up 200.00 cash to make the deal. The only thing I am scared of is the French gun??????? Might get him to leave just the French gun with me till Sunday so I can do some research on it before we make the deal. That way I can get some pictures up on here and you folks can help me out with what it is............... :up: :up:

Well, I have a 380 Llama and it shoots great, never jams with any type ammo from cheap to high end and I actually am more accurate than I am with any of my other 380's. With that being said I also have one of the older models also. Mine was made when Llama was still built by Stoger Arms. Since Stoger sold them out the new company has folded and are no more. Kel-Tec is still around. I know guys that did buy some of the Llama 45 calibers back in 2002 and 2003 before the company went under for $300.00 for new guns in the box and are still shooting them trouble free today and a few others have had issues with theirs. Some of the old Gunsmiths still have parts for them but you have to do a little searching to locate them. As far as magazines go I can give you the name of a company that custom builds magazines and they are not expensive at all and I got 4 back up mags for my 380 and it was $105.00 including shipping.  What would I buy today? Probably a Llama but only because I have one and know a few guys that have had good luck with them but KelTec is your best choice in this because they are still i business making guns.............jmho