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I like it!!! Keep up the good work! leroy

Cant buy this one. Sounds to me like the old time 'union drivel". "Living wage", why do the "rich" do well; "they aint any better than anyone else" (...they most likely work harder than others, however...), ect. etc. I'm old enough to remember watching both my parents work "just to make ends meet" and to give me a couple of pairs of blue jeans (...cost about $5...), a couple of oxford shirts, and one pair of penny loafers. They worked hard, but it never occured to them that working 40 hours a week was a "right". Theirs was more in the 70 to 80 hour range. I well remember going to school and working in the quarry. By wednesday evening, we usually had our 40 hours in; then we worked the other 40 from thursday thru saturday; sometimes sunday if the equipment would hold up. Otherwise we did maintenance on sunday. It can be done. It never occured to me either that just working 40 hours was an option. I was thankful to get all the hours i could work. I've got a dear friend about my age that came over from Greece in the late 50's. He couldnt speak a lick of english when he got here, nor did he have any "special job skills". He promptly went to work (...at least 2 jobs; probably 70 or 80 hours per week...), saved his money, brought his family over one by one from Greece to this "land of opportunity" and now is a millionaire. He didnt belong to the union, nor did he apply for a "handout", nor did he bitch about working. He simply went to work. The Vietnamese did the same thing down on the gulf coast. They now own the shrimp fishing industry in Lousiania. They and my buddy did it all in one generation. Interestin aint it? leroy

All:______________ To add a bit to lester's observations here" We've used the Rainers in 357 sig shot thru a glock 33 with good results and absolutely no leading. Chronograph velocities in the 1275 to 1325 fps vicinity. They are extremely accurate. We have also used Missouri Bullets in 380 and 44 special loads in the 900 fps or so range. Very good bullets too. leroy

Greg and Crimson:_______ Thank you both for the kind words. I am humbled by them. Many thanks, leroy

I'm going to take a crack at answering these two questions: RE: cost of healthcare. I'm retired and i pay 100% of my healthcare. It costs $1400 per month for family coverage and does not cover everything. I know i pay 100 percent of it because the program is defined that way; with BCBS only managing the program (...for a fee...). I'm 64 years old. When i was in my 30's and 40's (...from 1970 until 1980's...), family coverage was from $300 to $400 per month. It has grown to what you see today. The main reason for that growth is government meddling in the healthcare industry and in the pharmaceudical industry. I well remember when health insurance was non-existant. You simply went to the doctor or pharmacy and paid your bill. The government went to meddling in this industry in the late sixties. Look where it is today. You may not agree with my assessment of this; but it's the truth. The fact is that insurance is a luxury, not a "right". You have no "right to healthcare"; it is something you pay for. It aint a right, its a commodity that you pay for. The damn government has convinced too many people that it is a "right". It simply aint so and never was. RE: Your second question about "banks making money" being equated with "welfare queens". The fact is that banks risk the money they are trusted with (... investors dollars, your dollars, my dollars, as well as the bank's dollars from "interest...) in order to make money. They get paid in "interest". It's the same thing as investors in a company risking the dollars they put in in order to make a product or provide a service that can be sold at a profit. Sales minus expenses equal profit. That is the underlying principle of the capitalist system. If a bank makes a bad judgement on a loan and the borrower does not pay the loan back; the bank is obligated to make the investors whole. The bank is also obligated by law to make the deposits that you and i make good as well. That's the risk they take. Welfare doesn't work that way; the "welfare queens" simply harvest the largesse without any risk. Companies that do not make money go out of business (...unless they get special treatment thru cash infusion like General Motors did; its called union payback; all at your expense (...if you pay taxes....)...). Banking is simply another form of business, the banks lend investor's money and make interest. The product is the loan. The profit is the interest harvested. We can quibble about all this; but that is how the capitalist system works. Neither you nor the company you work for can make it without the bank at the start. We all need loans. Are there "insider deals'?--- of course there are and always have been. Are there abuses? -- you bet; and there always have and will be. Is there such a thing as "corporate welfare"? -- you bet -- look at General Motors and General Electric. Corporate welfare at its worst. Should we do away with the capitalist system and adopt the "...To each according to his need, from each according to his ability..." like the great god Marx said: ... NO...!! We need to clean up the system we have and go on about our business. To clean it up; folks are going to have to decide to be self-reliant, get off the dole, live within their means, and to hold the "ruling class" accountable. Otherwise, you will get what we now have and the whole system will collapse under it's own debt load. The fact is that "there aint no rainbow stew, nor is there any free lunch...". The other fact is that there will always be rich and poor; there always have been. If there are no rich people or corporations; there will be no jobs and no work for us less affluent folks. leroy

Amen brother!! Right on target. The sixties hippies made it ok to disrespect everything. Now they have cut off their stinkin greasy hair, took a bath, and raised children. They have replicated themselves. Dont worry about it; make them irrevellant at the polls. Keep up the good work! leroy

Amen brother!!! You are exactly right. Keep up the good work!!! leroy

Interesting read. Thanks for posting it. Have bookmarked it for future reference. leroy

Interesting read. We'll see. Watin leroy PS- Thanks for posting the link.

More interesting reading on this subject: Spencer: Koran-Burning Pastor Jailed for Thoughtcrime - Jihad Watch leroy

All:____________ As ive said several times before; i believe Ramsey is "bought and paid for" by the Haslam camp and can be counted on to back Haslam in whatever issue (...no matter how stupid...) or position he takes up. The payoff: "...Backing from the Haslam organization in a future gubanatorial election after the "Snozz" runs for Alexander's senate seat to take his "rightful place" in the political arena.... . Remember this: "....Most polititians can be bought. Once you establish that they can be bought, the only thing left is to quibble over the price...". I like Ramsey, but he is, at heart, a sorry polititian. Having said all this; if fully understand that it will be offensive to some, but i firmly believe it is the truth. Remember the words of Jesus: "....Wisdom is proved right by her children...". We'll soon see if im right or not. By the way, i sincerely hope i am wrong about this; but it aint lookin too good now. Suspicious leroy

Unitil we decide as a society that work is honorable, that telling the truth is best, that being "on the dole" is laziness, that capitalism is a benign economic force, government is best that meddles least, and minding our business in world affairs is the right thing to do; we will continue this (...as HvyMtl so aptly put it....) "death spiral". Polititians of both stripes have lead us into a full fledged class war and they have jerrymandered the population groups to about 50/50 who are "pro work and pro America" versus those somehow "on the dole" and "socialist" (...whether they profess it or not...). We've seen this back and forth pull since the 30's when the great god Roosevelt started the "people's socialist revolution" in amerika. Socialist economic policies always lead to economic failure. No country that has embraced socialism has ever sustained itself economically. We have lasted longer than any of the other countries with this stupidity because we had far more prosperity (...read that money and commerce...) than the others had. These failed economies have rejected socialism. Look at what is happening in europe and in china. Nobama and his socialist crowd are just accelerating the inevitable. The fact is that you cannot tax yourself into prosperity, have fifty percent of people not paying taxes (...other than SS and Medicare...), beat business up, regulate everything to death (...enviornmental, etc...), pass out more largesse (...that we have to borrow...) to buy more votes, and persecute "endless wars" sacrificing our sons and daughters for people that hate us and continue to be prosperous. The polititians are busy looting the country and killing the goose that laid the golden egg. You younger members of this forum may well see the time when no one is risking their life to cross the border to come to Amerika. I believe we are providentially blinded. Folks need to wake up if they dont want their children (...and mabee even this generation...) to be poor. Libertarian leroy

I like it!!! Have fun! leroy

Me too. leroy

Thanks Rod. Will take a look shortly. Thanks again, leroy

Rodriguez:________ Thanks a bunch for the explanation in the post above^^^^. I understand the Westboro thing a whole bunch better now, and also have some understanding RE: A person's public record of saying things being used. Thanks again, leroy PS ---Late breaking news from that great blog "Moonbattery": http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2011/04/sharia-in-michi.html Good stuff!!!

All:____________ I've said before that Haslam is using the "Howard Baker" and "Lamar Alexander" playbook to do his political posturing. Haslam simply says what each constituency wants to hear and then makes some seemingly reasonable pronouncement such as "i believe we should let the administrators make that decision"; and that he finds "troublesome" any pronouncement that holds these "administrators" to any reasonable standard (...e.g.-- keeping our children safe at college...). I contend that Ramsey is "bought and paid for" by the Haslam camp and can be counted on to back Haslam in whatever he says. I agree with JAB. Polititians are all "polititians". I disagree with him on McWherter. McWherter is a socialist; Haslam is, at least, a capitalist. All that being said; you are seeing exactly what is wrong with politics. It's all about deals; not "doing the right thing". They are all in it together. We need to clean both parties out. That's why you need something like the "Tea Party". By the way, thanks for posting the article. Radical libertarian leroy

Rodriguez:________ Thanks for digging up all the cases. I think all that is pretty interesting. The only problem is that the good rev didn't use any "fighting words" (...that we know of; or that anyone can find from what im able to read; it appears to be quite the contrary...), he didn't curse anyone, ect. ect. that i can tell. He did, however, gently call into question the motives of the local constabulary and city fathers. I suspect that is his only crime here. Of course the prosecutor is going to try to make the case that that was his intent; it's the only excuse they can hang their hats on to justify what was done. If the rev. intends to make something of this (...other than just talk...); he needs to appeal this ruling. I dont know whether he will or not. While we are on the subject; i wonder just what evidence was used to prove that the good rev. intended to incite violence other than a bunch of opinions from "experts" in the legal field (...read that prosecutors...) and the law enforcement community (...read that chief of police...)? Since we have your attention (...and i appreciate it; believe it or not...); how is the good rev's case different from the Westboro Baptist Church case? I understand that the Westboro folks say bad things directly about those who are fighting for us. Why are these not "fighting words" when said to grieving relatives? It appears (...to me, at least...) that the good rev. is only pointing out that the koran sanctions some hateful things and is asking to speak them in a 'public forum". We can quibble about where that "public forum" is; but why is he not entitled to say these things as political free speech? We seem to be saying that in the Westboro case, that there were no "fighting words"; or that those who hear "fighting words" are responsible to act "responsibly", and not commit crimes as the result of hearing them said. It seems to me (...from what we are able to read...) that the rev. has spoken no "fighting words" other than proclaiming that the koran is a "hate filled book"; which he can easily prove thru the actual passages. What "mechanism" does the good rev. use to induce these "fighting words" other than the citation of the specific passages? Are we saying here that if we are a devout muslum, we can perpetrate violence on "infidels" as the result of them saying what we (...as devout muslums...) may construe as "fighting words" on the grounds that it is a legitimate exercise of religious belief and custom? Whadda ya think? leroy

I saw this one too. Very tragic, yet very interesting. It would appear that thugs are running wild in Britain. My guess is that these thugs are not indigenous natives. If you watch closely, you will see a bunch of posts on Drudge about foreign crime in Britain. There is lots of rape done by roving gangs of foreign men (...read that muslum...). I wonder when the children of the folks that conquered the world in the 18th and 19th centuries are goin to get tired of all this?!...Remember this; no more than one hundred years ago; the British Army and Royal Governors of India tried and executed hindus who dared to burn the wives of their dead masters; as was the hindu custom. Thanks for posting this interesting article. leroy

All:__________________ This article gives a bit better picture of what is going on in this case: Pastor Terry Jones released from custody after his bond is posted This appears to be the "bottom line" of why this started in the first place: The procecutors made the arguement that the Rev. intended to incite violence by holding the protest; and that the denial of the permit to demonstrate was justified... It will be interesting to see where this one goes. leroy

No one jumped on ya. They simply disagreed with ya. While we're on the subject; i'm old enough to remember the sixties hippies and their support of North Vietnam. The hippies actions certainly bolstered North vietnam and China's resolve, resulting in american deaths. The courts held that the hippies actions and speech were protected regardless of the possibility of increased casulties. The difference between then and today is that there was no multicultural baloney in the sixties. There were, however, a few people who believed that "free political speech" is free political speech. Never confuse discussion with "attack" or being "jumped on". It aint the same thing. By the way; i dont believe this one either: Got any precedents for it? leroy

I think it will if the Republicans contrast their candidate with Nobama. Nobama aint likeable; Carter was. His (...Nobama's and Carter's...) policies are destructive, and lots of people (...both Dems and everybody else...) are waking up to that. More than that; Nobama will never be able to keep his cool in debates. His character and demeanor is such that he cant take opposing criticism without showing his temper; just like a petulent child (...which is exactly what i think he really is...). Take the time to watch his replies to genuinely honest questions that challenge his judgement or philosophy. He fuzzes up pretty quickly. I predict that Nobama and his socialist operatives will have a miserable campaign this time around if the opposing part(ies) do the right thing. Here's hopin! leroy

Mav nailed this one dead on. Remember, violence is an unlawful act (...in most cases...). When a bunch of thugs beat up someone who says something they dont agree with; that is a genuine crime. What the person said to "incite the crime" is a judgement of those doing the beating. Flag burning, bible burning, constitution burning all are forms of "free political speech"; and the courts have already ruled on that and; by the way, put anyone in jail that did not agree with their findings who tooks matters into their own hands to flog or beat those speaking this "free political speech". The ratty lawyers and bureaucrats well know that in Wayne county and everywhere else. This one aint kin to the 'hollering fire in a crowded theatre" arguement. The arguement there is that innocents will be trampled in the exodus, thereby endangering the innocent. Everybody that perpetrates "violence" is a criminal in the 'keep the peace" agruement. This one is clearly unconstitutional. As Mav has so elequently stated: " ...There are no special rights in this country. There is no right to be free from offense, and I hope to God we never create one. ..." Remember this: Totalitarian states are the ultimate end of preemptive "suspending of freedoms" (....read that: speech, assembly, bearing of arms, press, etc....) in the name of "keeping the peace" or the "Collective Good"... Said another way; you can have no "Marketplace of Ideas" if there are "gatekeepers" who can decide what ideas are acceptable or not. Ya either got these freedoms or you dont; there is no half way or "special condition" with them. It seems to me that the citizenry and legal community of Wayne county dont know too much about freedoms. Kinda looks to me like they are using the old Soviet monaker of banning things they dont agree with under the ole "against the Collective Good banner". leroy

All:_______________ Ran up on this article on Drudge this morning: Pastor Terry Jones released from custody after his bond is posted Think about this a bit: The members of the infamous Westboro Baptist Church have "Free Speech Rights" to protest at a military funeral; all upheld by the Federal Court. The Rev. Terry Jones does not have free speech rights (....Yes Muhammed; burning the Koran is "Freedom of Speech"; because i remember when flag burning and bible burning were "freedom of speech" issues in the sixties and seventies; and the courts held it as such ...) according to a Wayne County, Michigan county court. It appears to me that the Wayne County folks could be the embodiment of "Animal Farm". "....All animals are equal; it's just that some animals are MORE EQUAL than others...". It appears that, in Wayne County at least, "peace trumps everything"; including the Constitution. This one will be interesting to watch. I wonder where all the "Freedom of Speech" advocates are at on this one? It kinda looks to me like the Dearborn Islamic community has won this one. They have intimidated everyone else (...including law enforcement and the justice system...) into doing their bidding by threatening violence; and making those threats well known in the community. The reason for the Rev's denial and guilty verdict: "....Such an action (...burning the Koran...) would "breach the peace"... I wonder if it would be "breaching the peace" to burn the Bible in front of the local Catholic and Baptist churches in Dearborn (...if there are any left; and if the local populus hasn't burned them down yet...)?.... Wonderin and watchin leroy

Jonnin:_____________ Have seen the barrel burnished but not scratched on the old colt 1911's. Would take the pistol down and clean the barrel and slide real well; lube the barrel and lugs with a dab of light oil, and start again. Hope this helps. leroy