56FordGuy

  Anytime someone suggests maybe we as a nation aren't the super greatest, most awesome inerrant country in the world people get upset. The idea that maybe we made our bed and now get to lie in it is more than some folks can handle.    Yes, Islam has been violent for a long time. Other countries have been screwing with Muslim countries for eons as well, playing one against the other, appointing and removing leaders as we saw fit, funding this group or that etc and never allowing them to mature because it didn't suit our needs at the time. Why did Bin Laden want to fly planes into the World Trade center instead of Moscow or Big Ben? Why was 9-11 the second attempt by Muslims to destroy the WTC? Because the US has been needling, poking, and prodding over there for a very long time and they're tired of it. A lot of the middle east sees the US as a bully, continually picking on them. I can understand why 40% of Muslims agreed with Bin Laden that they were tired of being pushed around by what they saw as some outsider picking on them.    Of course, that entire paragraph has hacked off the "YeehawNascarbarbecuefourwheeldrive" 'Mericans. How dare I insinuate that 'Merica was bad, or made a mistake.    Whether we did or didn't, that's how the people attacking us see it. I don't believe Islam is completely gentle and loving right now, but I also don't buy for a second that America is just some innocent bystanding victim in all this either. Just like Christians no longer stone adulterers to death, I believe that given time to grow on their own the radical portions of Islam will fade away as well. Nobody has 1,000 years for that to happen though, so we keep picking and prodding and putzing around over there to make things 'better'.

I'm not saying we deserve it, but we shouldn't be surprised by it. When the bulky picks on the little kid long enough, nobody should be surprised when the little kid breaks the bully's nose. Right or wrong, that's how a lot of the Middle East sees the US. My point is "all Muslims are bad throw them out" is as ridiculous and unamerican as "we must ban all guns".

Called it! :lol: I'm not afraid of end called anything, just a fan of freedom.

There are some great courses in law school about witnesses, memory, etc. It's really fascinating stuff to learn just how people "remember" things or can be helped to "remember" things and truly believe it.

Just like the law in the Old Testament isn't considered relevant today I believe with enough time Islam will evolve and he interpreted differently so that the more violent parts are seen as irrelevant just like the violent parts of the Bible. A lot of Muslims are already saying groups like Isis are not true Islam, so I think there's proof that change is coming. I don't think the rest of the world will ever let it happen though. The Middle East needs to be left alone, and nobody wants to do that.

I'm not either, and I have an opinion. :)

That's exactly why I'm doing it. If we can view all who claim to be Muslims through one lens, why not all Christians? A lot of the responses here really strike me as being as unfounded as we rail against the left for being. "There's been another shooting, it involves guns. Therefore, we suggest removing all the guns, it will make some people feel better. We're not interested in freedom." "There's been another shooting, it involves Muslims. Therefore, we suggest removing all Muslims, it will make some people feel better. We're not interested in freedom." We need to take the emotion out of this and be logical, try to understand our enemy and how their thought process works. Otherwise we'll never get anywhere and be stuck in this quagmire until they detonate a dirty or chemical weapon, then we respond, then they respond, and we all end up dead. I doubt enough people ever decide to do that though, it's much easier to just be mad and see any attempt to learn about the enemy as weakness.

If they stopped feeling like they were being pushed around all the time, then yes. In reality though, no. Western nations aren't going to stop screwing around in the Middle East, and there will be no peace. I doubt the world will exist long enough for Islam to mature, we'll all nuke each other off long before then.

So some Christians don't believe Catholics are "true" Christianity just like a lot of Muslims say Isis isn't "true" Islam, yet both of the sects in question claim that they are.

So Catholics aren't a branch of Christianity?

Christianity teaches love now, but hasn't always. Somehow or another the crusades were considered holy and even today Christians in Uganda have been killing homosexuals. Islam is just a little behind Christianity in its evolution. As for the rest, it's like picking a fight then getting hit in the nose, and getting tired of being blamed for getting hit in the nose.

I'm not excusing anything, I just get tired of "All them Muslims is ba-yed, we gotta git 'em!" Islam is a few hundred years behind Christianity in its evolution, let's not pretend Christians have always been gentle and loving. It's just been a long time since the crusades so folks tend not to talk about it. I know, I know- "They started it!" Well that's the same thing they're saying. Who's been bombing, overthrowing, and otherwise screwing around in the Middle East for generations? Isis sounds just like the Republican Party to their followers- "Let's fight then there so we don't have to fight them here! God loves us, he's on our side, we will prevail!" :popcorn: I'm posting from my phone, hope the little popcorn smiley works. Can't find the poking with a stick one. :lol:

:popcorn: So they should be more tolerant, but we don't have to tolerate them? I can't he the only one seeing the hypocracy here, right?

"Why aren't the Muslims speaking out against this? Do they support it?" "Why are the Muslims holding a press conference? Do they feel guilty?" :lol: No, really. What do you want them to do?

http://m.sfgate.com/news/article/Israel-honors-late-World-War-II-U-S-soldier-for-6670950.php Pretty cool story.

These things are always wrong initially. I'm not paying it much mind until tomorrow or maybe Friday when they have a better idea what happened instead of random speculation- and I mean the "officials" talking to the media, not just the folks parroting it.

Even if you can rent one, you'll have to have a CDL driver take it to the dmv for the test. When I took mine the first question they asked was who was with me (I had a CDL permit) to bring the truck to the testing station. If you drive it over yourself with just a permit it's an automatic fail and possibly a fine.

Wouldn't have it any other way. :)

Very few commercial shops have any machines sitting idle, especially older manual machines. I think the odds of finding any shop willing to let a novice walk if from off the street and operate any type of equipment is going to be very, very slim. There's a huge insurance liability, not to mention the potential to damage the machine or just plain burn up tooling before they even know what you want to make. I doubt walking into any operational machine shop you'll even get far enough to tell them you're trying to make a gun, and if you do their unfamiliarity with the 80% lower laws will shut any of the very, very few potential doors that may have been open. An 80% lower is pretty much a project where you have to have the equipment yourself, or have a personal relationship with someone that does.

Today is the first day in over a week we've had temps above freezing- might see 33* today, lows have been 0-2. Accumulated about 6-8" of snow over the last 10 days or so as well but the wind is clearing it out. 50+ mph gusts today. So it's raining, you said? :lol:

  If you're already setup with the equipment, they're a fun project. I just like making stuff, and wouldn't mind doing one. There's no real cost savings, but then I could say I truly 'built' my AR instead of just assembling a Lego set. :lol:

It has to come up. Proper preparation is key to any garage/ shop floor holding up over time. We did the floor in the shop at work, brought in a crew that shotblasted the brand new concrete to get it clean enough for the coating to adhere correctly. 

I ordered a new hydraulic tank heater for the tractor online, not on sale. I was going to buy a new cutting edge for the grader blade, but Caterpillar was closed. Glad I called first.

I never had great service from the Gallatin co-op, maybe the lady you talked to came from there? :lol:   I bought all my feed from Farm Depot in Oak Grove, right at the corner of 174 and 52 behind the general store. 

Scottsville is one of the last places I ever would've expected to hear about this. It's a small town where telling the kids to go play and be back for supper wouldn't be at all out of the ordinary. For something like this to have happened is just positively stunning.    I hope they caught the right guy, and I hope he gets everything he has coming in prison.