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Had a 15 Y O student get stabbed at Okland High School yesterday. News did not say stabbed with what.

At what distance, self defense? When my event happened, while walking to the mail box, I was within 21 feet of the closest thug. The other was within 50 feet while advancing fast toward me, and another was still in the truck. It started at a much further distance, but very soon got to within just a few feet. Not saying one will ever need to practice self defense at longer distances, but if one does one will need to be doing a lot of explaining when the event is over. I am not a fan of electronic devices in serious/L-D situations. Red Dots may/are fun to play with, but! JMHO, and yours is OK also. Total familiarity is a must with your EDC. For sure for us old folks. Changing EDC often is something that burns a lot of ammo if you stay proficient with them all. I can see carrying a larger handgun IWB, and a backup in the pocket, however one needs to practice with both, OFTEN. Many carry the same configuration, but the pocket one much smaller. I have done it both ways. Pistol IWB, and revolver pocket carry as backup. Or 2 pistols, one 16 rounds on board IWB and 13 pocket carry. Its a your choice thing, IMO. Edited to add; I had a 2" 7 shot revolver in my pocket the day the 3 thugs confronted me. Just thankful I did not need to pull it and see if 7 was enough. It was for that day. My neighbor wasn't as fortunate.

I have carried the same setup for years. See no need to change now. My practice is always the same. Have often thought of changing to a larger compacity but just haven't seen the need to. Seven rounds in a revolver seems adequate to me. Hope/pray no running gun battles are in my future.

TN past teacher carry last session. To my knowledge not one teacher has qualified, for many different reasons. Mostly the bigger school districts will not allow teacher carry. State needs to change that, IMO. Then if teachers want to carry they can become qualified. Also, to my knowledge this school had the famed "Panic Button" that came out of the last shooting discussions. News reports said the button was activated. Didn't work well enough, did it. In the Nashville shooting the lockdown worked to deny further access to the kids, but still had casualties. Sorry, but the "Panic Button" does not work 100%. Not the perfect solution. I feel so sorry for these parents and that school. Prayer they can get the handle on this but wonder if they ever will. My solution is "Armed, Dedicated, Well Trained, Teachers", but most can't go there at this time. Quicker repose is better, but not perfect either. I really don't know if there is a "Perfect Solution'" IMO.

Since when did the 2nd amendment ever come under majority rule. It is a right given by the constitution, not something anyone/anywhere can just vote away. What a bunch of stooges thinking they can do that. If I lived in Memphis, "I would Move." Simple guys.

My project is poured and top finished. They will come back and take the forms off soon. It is 24" above ground level on the far end from the driveway. Looks like a deck but poured out of concrete. I almost built a deck however I am glad we decided on concrete. No cleaning and staining or upkeep. The patio is 15'X60' and is large chunk of concrete. Thinking about sloping around the edges, however I just may keep it like it is. Kinda like the raised deck look. I will purchase one concert step to exit if I keep it like it is now.

The 20 Ga will do the job. I had a Mossy 20 that held 4+1 2 3/4, with the plug removed. Put a side saddle on it although the 5 should do the job IMO. Rarely will a private citizen be in a running gun battle in one's house. I had 6 extra rounds on mine just in case. Reloads, in an emergency situation, are very seldom needed by citizens. Cops, for sure needed.

My crew is here and working hard. Looking good. Had to order another load of gravel as it will take most of it to finish the foundation. Going to have 2 steps to get in my back door. Will take a couple loads of dirt to fill in around the patio edges. On the lower end it is 2 feet raised. One thing leads to another. Hope to have the concrete finished by tomorrow.

The old Western gun writer, Elmer Keith Father of the 357 and 44 magnums, said that anything walked on the North American continent can be taken with the 30 06 if loaded correctly (with the right bullets). Of course, his writings were old world 60 to 80's. If you are not recoil sensitive, I see a lot of hunters, on TV today, using a 300 Win Mag, however it kicks like a mule. I like the 30 calibers also, but there some good PRC's and Nosler's, if ultra-modern is your cup to tea. Edited to add; My deer rifle is a 7 MM 08. Not sure I would trust it with Elk sized animals and for sure not Buffalo. I did see a Buffalo hunt on TV last spring and the hunter took him with 1 shot with a 30 06 at 80 yards. The bull Buffalo was an older banished from the herd fellow.

I have a short brl Mossy Mdl 500 pump in 12 Ga with the extended magazine for my house shotgun. Had a MDL 500 20 Ga with the 18 1/2 brl and ordered a 26" brl for it from Mosberg and gave it to my grandson to duck hunt with. Winchester Bismuth 4's make it a little mightier in the duck game. Saw the same gun patterned today on TV with the same load, and it was deadly at 25 yards. If a duck gets through that pattern, it borders on being a miracle. If it don't fall, the shooter just missed. Edited to add; How many of you shotgunners pattern your shotguns?

Man called and they will be here at 10 Monday morning to start my project. Said they should be able to pour it in 1 day. My wife is ready.

I use the Murfreesboro store often. Recently purchased a Hellcat, for daughter, and S W 686 from Outpost last year. Year before a Ruger Max 9 and AR 15, Springfield Armory Saint. Some ammo. They are helpful.

I will stick with tried and true S W. Purchased a 3" 686 + last year. 7 rounds of 357 or 38 Spl can't be beat IMO!

Sorry for your problems DeepSouth. Prayer for you this morning.

We are having a 15X60 Patio, 2 sets of steps, one 3 and one step, poured next week. Contractor 8,000.00 package deal. Lascassas, Mid TN,area. I need to furnish 20 ton of rock, abouy 400.00.

Got my ammo in today. UPS just brought it. This ammo is rated at 967 fps at 25 yards and is a 147 gr 9 MM bullett. Watched crono test, on SG site, where this ammo was running averaging 1025 fps at 10 ft out of a 4.25 inch brl Glock. Hot stuff for factory loaded ammo. Not bad price for SD ammo. Got a story in the new Guns and Ammo magazine saying we are about to undergo a powder shortage in the US.

Went to my gun range, in the back yard, and I have 2 trees that have blown down on it. I was able to shoot around them while shooting my Taurus TX 22 C. Shot 80 rounds and was run in by the rain and mosquitos. I just can't get out when the sun is not bright. Them darn things eat me up. I had 1 failure as I was limp writing when a mosquito was biting my little finger. The pistol is great guys.

I use a modified Nemesis for my EDC. Have for years.

I found a belt maker, next to the Old Mill, in Pigeon Forge and I have 2 of his 1.5 gun belts, black and brown. Well satisfied with both. Plan to purchase another 1.5 black when we go there this fall. Also have 2 1.5 black of Beltmans that I have used for years and still holding up. Can't beat a good gun belt.

I found a belt maker, next to the Old Mill, in Pigeon Forge and I have 2 of his 1.5 gun belts, black and brown. Well satisfied with both. Plan to purchase another 1.5 black when we go there this fall. Also have 2 1.5 black of Beltmans that I have used for years and still holding up. Can't beat a good gun belt.

I have decided to not purchase a Green or Red Dot sight. I am just not sure I would benefit from the purchase of the dot sight as I am mainly using my EDC for defensive purposes only. Thanks for the replies and advice guys.

Just ordered 500 rounds of Winchester high pressure(+P) 147 Gr HP S D ammo from SG ammo for 249.00 + Tax. Most Self Defense ammo is around 90 cents per round while this is .50 cents per round. Thought it was a good deal. I favor heavier bullets.

Agree with you Defender, but it is extremely hard to truly know, for sure, if a party being fired upon is truly an innocent party and in need of help this day in time. If one is sure then help, but you had better be 100% positive. There are so many plain clothed cops, security officers, and on and on. Getting involved in others problems has a lot of danger connected to it. "Must" be doubly sure of innocence!

Defender, if I have distance, I plan going the other way, IF POSSIBLE.

Deerslayer, you hit the nail on the head. My use for handguns is only for self-defense. It is my worry that if I spend money for a good dot sight it really will be useless for me with considering mission. That is why I posted this thread.