DaveTN

It would in a shorter barrel, but it seems those have a lot of problems. The EMP looks like it has great potential, but I would like to see how it does. That and waiting for the price to get down to where it should be.

Is it much thinner than your M&Pc?

I used a leather Pancake thumb break if I didn’t wear full gear. (You mean like working inside HQ instead of on the street, or to and from work?) I think they look a lot better than Kydex. Wouldn’t a Kydex with a thumb break look weird? Wouldn’t people be pointing at you and laughing? Not to mention all that noise every time you had to pull your gun in or out of the holster.

Just another tool in the collection; but not a “regular basis†holster. I have used them for years. To me they are the ultimate concealed carry holster if you never have to take your jacket off. In Illinois that was pretty common; in Tennessee I don’t get much use out of them. But as Mugster pointed out they are great if you ride a motorcycle. I have a Safariland leather up-side down rig for a J-Frame. It’s lasted 30 years. I had a couple others for K-Frame revolvers but I think I sold them.

I’m thinking about adding a new gun. What would be your suggestions with the following criteria? 1. Made by an American Company in America. 2. Thin for IWB carry. 3. At least .40S&W. I could maybe drop to a 9mm, but I really don’t want to. 4. Capacity is not a big issue. I don’t expect it to be 15 rounds but it should be at least 8 without an extended magazine. 5. Polymer, Steel, or Stainless frame. No Aluminum, Scandium or Unknownium. I already have M&P Compact, J, K, and L Frame Smiths, Full size 1911. Thanks

Glen, Are you talking about this? Cerakote Firearm coatings Did he give you any idea of pricing on a 1911 size handgun?

No but if you don’t find anyone I know a guy in Christiana (Murfreesboro) that did an excellent high gloss blue on an S&W revolver for me.

I just got a Crossbreed last week. I sure wish I had seen your post before I ordered; I would much rather have leather.

No one around here is going to know that. I have both been in jail and worked the jail. With what I have seen I’m certainly not going there because of misguided principals. I have never even been inside the Rutherford County jail. Is it a nice place?

I have said it throughout this post. The common thread on an internet forum whenever arrest is the subject usually seems to be the misguided idea that this is some patriotic exercise in the application of your rights. Nothing could be farther from the truth. The goal here is for you to maintain your freedom and hopefully not to financially destroy your family by going to trial. As part of your plan you need to understand that if you have a situation where you are justified in killing someone; that absolutely requires you making a statement. Am I suggesting that you make a statement without talking with an attorney? Absolutely not. If you don’t feel comfortable enough in your knowledge of the law concerning what you have just done you need to talk with an attorney. My point is that you need to talk with him right then. Keep in mind that we aren’t talking about the lawyer that handled your divorce or the DUI of a family member; we are talking about criminal defense attorneys that handle serious felony cases. Those types usually have a 24 hour number you can call. It may not be the direct number to them, but it will be someone that either has their direct number or can meet your legal requirements. People are going to be arriving at the scene of your shooting; cops, detectives, you may even have someone from the District Attorneys office there. These people are going to be making decisions that could impact the rest of your life. I want either me or my attorney there and involved in that process. There is no reason for you to be going to jail…. Period. If you go to jail it is either because your shoot is questionable or you are not cooperating. Use some common sense. Don’t get tied up in this “The cops are out to get us mentalityâ€. I know there are many here in disagreement; but they are not. They have a job to do and with me telling them that I just killed a dirt bag that had broken into my house; they can get their investigation done faster and be gone. Keep in mind here that we are discussing a situation where you are clearly justified in the use of deadly force. If you have just shot someone that is breaking into your car or stealing it out of the driveway, or you have shot someone out on the street because they scared you; you are probably going to jail anyway, so timing is not really as important.

Well you aren’t bonding if the cops put a hold on you. And I don’t think you are going to bond on a felony until you are arraigned. If you are arrested at 10pm on Friday night when will that be happening to you in Sumner County?

You are fine . . . . . Unless the rest area is in Illinois.

I got carrying in Illinois. But that’s a whole other story. Don’t try it.

Because people get beaten and killed in jail. Club Med white guys that just killed a gang banger that was car jacking them or burglarizing their house would be a big target. I’ve been sent too many times as an escort for the ambulance that was hauling a prisoner to the hospital. Nope… I am not going to jail. And I won’t have to because I have a plan that will work.

Fallguy, I am not implying that you should not call your lawyer, and I am not saying that you should not think about what you are saying. I am saying that you should be prepared to make things happen in a timely manner. From the moment the cop walks on the scene you are not free to leave until they have a statement. If you feel some misguided feelings about your rights or think that the cops are out to get you; you need to be making a phone call and getting something besides voice mail. If pushing that to the point of placing you under arrest sounds like a plan; go for it. But you of all people (a former Police Officer) having experience handing these type of calls and having been involved in these kinds of investigations should know how that will end.

Not yet. I have been working inside a plastic bag. Thanks, I’m going to have to order one. I tried getting the wife to help. After a few try’s she said “You have got to be kidding me.â€

You have committed a homicide. That could be a family member or your wifes dead lover on the floor for all the cops know. You HAVE to give a statement if you feel you were justified in killing this person. You may choose to wait until your attorney gets there; but you are silly if you think you are going to come and go as you please. Did I not see you post that you were once a LEO? That means a cop to me, is that what you were? I’m at a loss why you would want to do anything other than cooperate and be done with it.

You quoted me; is that directed at me?

Can I buy it? I got my bolt apart without it. But I don’t see much chance of getting it back together without it.

This isn’t about exercising your rights. If you want to exercise your rights; go vote. This is about protecting yourself and your family. You carry a gun for that reason so why would you throw yourself under a bus and call it “standing up for your rightsâ€. This thread is about calling an attorney and having a plan. If any part of your thought process is that you care going to sit around drinking Caffe Latte’s waiting for your attorney to grace the scene with his presence… you need to have a serious talk with your attorney. Remember the video that was posted here where the lawyer told kids to get out of the car and lock the doors on a traffic stop? That was just bizarre ignorance. And refusing to make a statement or not cooperating with the investigators right then is just as ignorant. My point is that, yes the Police will allow you to talk with an attorney. But they will tell you to call him. If you can’t decide on your own if you should make a statement; you need someone you can talk to right then. Blurting out that you thought he was going to kill you or saying you need to see a Doctor is just silliness. Be prepared to take care of business. BTW, I just noticed that this thread is over a year half old… so RBC do you have an attorney lined up yet?

So you have a dead guy on your living room floor, you are refusing to make a statement, and now you are going to start thumping on your chest and banging heads with the investigators? It’s a short walk to the cage car in handcuffs. What could possibly be your reasoning in forcing an arrest?

You bet it does. I seen criminal defense attorneys that couldn’t get their clients out of jail when they came down in person and then I‘ve seen others that would make a phone call into the Command Office, get briefed on what was going on and then get their client a “Notice to Appear†on a felony. That’s some serious difference in people skills.

5906 is a work horse as a duty or combat handgun. A lot of PD’s still use them. I wouldn’t want a double stack as a carry.

Sony Crockett started all this 10mm business. What was that thing he had? If I was getting a 10mm I would have to have one of those.

Sure…. Then if you need power you just have to run an outlet from the sub. You wife may decide she wants to Arc Weld while her pottery is being cooked. You may want to run a big compressor, Lathe, Milling Machine or Grinder. You might want to add a Phase Converter and run a three phase CNC milling machine; you just never know. Available amps in a garage is like money…. You can never have too much.