scatman

Look at the Kimber Ultra Carry II, i kept it in my pocket, or an ankle rig.

That's a beautiful deal.

I've looked into getting one of these just hadn't really heard any feedback on them.

Any trade interests?

I agree with that.

Just out of curiosity, what was cost?

This whole bill is the start of them taking everything. It isn't about protecting our children, it's about control. Look into all the fine print. This is the outline and foot in the door for them to disarm the civilian population. This bill will have an impact on LAW ABBIDING CITIZENS. Like the OP said on point #1, you decide to make that call on your neighbor, or your ex decides to stir some stuff up and call them on you, they/you don't even get due process to defend themselves, their house will be raided, and items confiscated. How does this not bother people?

Alright, I've used quite a few different types of boresight over the past few years, and I want to know if anyone has any recommendations or thoughts? I for one used to love in chamber sights, where the boresight is mock cartridge you just throw in the chamber, vs a universal that goes into the barrel, but I've grown to hate them because after about 200 sightings and depending on what you're sighting, say an AR, the boresight essentially is no longer "true" because the force of the bolt, or if using a pistol, the slide, causes it to knock itself out of level, and you can't fix it, $30 isnt much at the time, but when you've gone through 3 or 4 bore sights, it gets kinda frustrating. Universal sights are great, but depending on how they "adjust" to fit the bore, I've had issues with them being level.

I realized why there was some confusion, I too was a little confused, because I thought this round had been around longer, but when I read that link, for whatever reason, probably the bourbon, noticed the Carcano, which I've shot plenty of times, and thought it was the same round.

Ah I see

Is that another wildcat cartridge like the 25-06?

Ya know, you're right, I probably should've mentioned something geared towards them as well, I didn't even think about it because my Pro Carry was what I used for competition as well.

I know a lot of us have used different calibers over the years, I've used everything from .25 to .44 cal., my personal preference being 25-06 and 30-06 for those long shots depending on wind.

I know there is a few of us who use different calibers on the range vs what we prefer to carry, my question to the group is, what's your preference in caliber for either one? I'm also aware of the fact that there's also those who practice with what we carry either by just running 50 or so rds through our carry on a range day, or using a similar firearm to what we carry, so to those people I ask, what is what is your "practice carry?" I.e. I used to carry a Kimber Ultra Carry II in .45 ACP with a 3" barrel and 7rd magwell, my practice was a Kimber Pro Carry with a 4" barrel and full size 8rd magwell.

Trybe has a flat faced trigger available for the gen 5s, they're pretty decent, its not an Agency or an Apex, but they're still good triggers IMO.

@Huntin101 PM me if you want that book I mentioned.

Would you be interested in a trade?

Oh boy, you don't know what you've started, haha, personally, I'm using an RCBS single stage that's been passed down through to three generations, myself being the third. I've also got a Hornady that has rotating die slots, today's market, it's hard to find a "bad" loader, everyone has their favorite, and dies are debatably personal preference as well, each brand has their ups and downs, take for instance Lee 9mm dies over Hornady 9mm dies, Lee's expander die has a powder through funnel where you can prime, expand, charge, and then set that charged case in your tray. Hornady's expander doesn't have that option, but their seater die has a piece that sits on the projectile which helps keep it straight and level as you're going up the press. IMHO, you should read a guide to reloading, I've got a Lee Precision's Guide To Reloading you can have, after doing so, it will help you decide what best suits your needs.

I'm 50/50 here, I honestly believe it depends on model and generation. Some models fit the shape of my hand better and give the perfect angle, whereas others just felt awkward.

Note: I didn't post this in the Relics page due to the fact that depending on year it will handle modern ammunition with no problems at all. Also if you have any questions or need help deciphering your markings, please PM me.

Alright, my family has passed a few of these around the generations and recently my dad got curious as to what exactly he had in his safe and took them to a specialist/appraiser, to his dismay he learned that what he had was meant for black powder, but also found that he was sitting on some nice pieces of history worth quite a bit to collectors. Even more recently I came upon one which lead me to do some research on my own, and realized, our community could use this information! I'm going to try and compress this as much as possible, but there's a lot of information to digest around these. First a simple link to help identify proof marks to help one try and determine dates. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.hunting.be/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Belgian-Proof-Marks.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj9wOrvwJX4AhUBt4QIHYTTCr8QFnoECBIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1LS3bqxZxT9BNAKeqiIw5N In there you can decipher your way through the various changes of marks used over the years. A few very KEY names or inscriptions to look out for: Francotte, Frall, Jennsenn. These have been noted as usually higher end quality and there's some going on auction anywhere from 1k to 10k depending on the grade. As we all know Winchester changed ownership a lot of times over the years, what some might not know is there was a short period when they were owned by Western Cartidge Co. (The inventor of the Super X shotshell) and said parent company would send their designs to and buy arms from FN Herstal in Belgium and export them to the US market in the early 30's. Now, if you're wondering to yourself, it's been proofed for smokeless powder, I can use modern ammo, right? STOP. DON'T. Most firearms from this era and region were made with Damascus and can't handle the pressure of modern ammunition. Take it to a qualified gunsmith, preferably one with knowledge of vintage arms/Damascus barrels. They can tell you if you're firearm is safe to use, and can probably recommend a safe ammunition. IF YOU DON'T TAKE IT TO A GUNSMITH FOR INSPECTION PRIOR TO USE, YOU RUN THE RISK OF SERIOUSLY HARMING YOURSELF. No, I'm not speaking from personal experience, but I've seen what happens when a catastrophic failure of a firearm occurs.

Because I'm going to make another post with detailed information and links to sources in a more clear format that's easier to digest and help others be able to identify Belgian made firearms.

mods please remove this, I've found what I needed.

Does anyone know anything about these? What markings they have prior to 1922? What is a definite marking or stamp that would tell me that what I'm looking at is a Francotte?

I've got a walther PPQ if you're interested.