Jonnin

I have one in 9mm, it has the standard safety (cocked & locked option). Mine is the steel version as well. Accurate? It is that for sure. I have fully adjustable sights on mine, and its amazing. Reliable? The only issue I have had is its rifling is close to the chamber: extra heavy rounds, lead reloads, or extra long rounds can get stuck in the rifling and cause a serious jam. If you use standard ammo (115 grain, typical length) it is 100% reliable. I have only see a couple of factory loads do this, and those were the 140+ grain stuff. I use mine mostly for 3 gun. I have had the SAO trigger installed on it. But if I were to carry this gun, I would probably carry it hammer down and use it like a DA/SA gun (reverting the SAO mod). I cannot say if I would feel comfortable with it cocked & locked -- I use it that way at 3 gun BUT that is pretty much load it, safety on, and use it a few moments later. I have not carried it C&L (I have carried it, but not cocked). I think you are going to like it. It is my favorite midsized 9mm. I would have no concerns using mine for daily carry, I do not because its 1 size too big for my daily preferences. The extended mags are sweet. But to carry, I use the smaller mag. Have at least one of each, IMHO.

it would be nice if your bought ammo is close to your defense ammo, but it really does not matter. Defense ammo is going to have more recoil regardless --- so the usual answer for practice is the cheapest thing you can find, to get more shots downrange for more practice. You may want to avoid steel cased ammo, or not, but I do not care for that stuff and go one grade higher, like PMC or winchester white box or blazer brass. Defense ammo, I like low flash powder and +p behind a hollow point. Several companies offer defense ammo and all of it is probably equally effective for the most part. Buffalo bore makes a potent load with low flash powder, good products there. I like the bullet design of hornady lately. But that is 2 of 25 or more great choices.

I get it too --- that is exactly right.

to possess? Come take it. Hmm new product: the 223 rimfire

probably because hackers would have a very low bill each month. If I had to read these things for a living I would be in a vehicle with a company logo on it and a uniform and approach any home openly. Creeping around is a good way to get into trouble.

True, but that leads to the old gun control path. Ban video games, check the age of the buyer --- sound familiar?

Given that his vest was not actually armor after all, yes I think a handgun would have stopped him DRT in the hands of a decent shot if the shooter were not too far from the gun owner. I will not claim that he will hit him 100% nor that he will not accidentally hit someone else in the crowd or even shoot thru a wall, but the total number of people shot could have been cut from 70+ down to 1/3 or less of that under some conditions. Theaters are never truly dark. The things that matter are the noise/setting (duh, what? factor) and the smoke (if you were near a canister, it would be awful, and after a few min, it would be generally a mess all over). Now, I said under some conditions. Under other conditions (the only gun owner is blinded, confused, shot in the first few rounds, hesitates due to crowd, runs away or cowers instead, or whatever else) nothing would have changed. Its luck of the draw on a gun owner being in a good place to make the shot and then doing so.

Study the brain all you want. Study is great, very important. However their ability to treat anything more serious than depression has an abysmal track record and their ability to influence things (councilors at high schools, for example) is too strong. I guess it comes down to trust, and I do not trust them. Prove me wrong. Send your best white suit over to cure the Colorado shooter so he can return to a normal life unsupervised OR show that he is not insane and is just a mean SOB that is perfectly normal.

I like him. Long as I don't have to listen to his music, hes pretty cool as an actor and person.

ooo its 1950 and we pay people to actually go look at devices. Maybe someday in the far, far future we will be able to read them from afar without that..... I wonder....

I have not been keeping up ... price is up that much now? Nevermind!

If my AR-15 is an assault rifle, his varmint hunting 243 or whatever he used is a sniper rifle and his shotgun is a gang weapon (think 1930).

Take sides? Not really. The CFA manager guy can say whatever he likes. The mayor, like it or no, is able to abuse his powers granted by being in that position to either help or hurt a business that wants to set up shop: this is legal and common practice at least where I live (though here its the city council I think? or both combined?). It pretty much ends there.... neither side did anything "wrong" that I can see, certainly not a worthy of supreme court (perhaps the state SC, but not the national one). If there is a wrongdoing here, most of the mayors/council members of most cities are equally guilty of whatever it is (picking and choosing who can operate on their whims). I would be all for not allowing the city to do the pick & choose thing, and that would be a great outcome of a court case, but I do not see that happening.

nighthawk for a carry variety of 1911?

Well, that is an interesting thought. He could have said: we have tough gun laws, and that seems to be what the people in this state want, even though I do not agree with them I will not touch them. Or We have some really tough gun laws but criminals still seem to be getting guns. I would like to see the laws relaxed so normal citizens can fight back. Or We have some tough gun laws. They are all illegal according to the constitution; people have the right to own weapons and I will work to restore the freedoms that made this country great! Instead of those, he said: we have tough gun laws, and I support them because guns are made for hunting down and killing people.

I do not bet my life on it. Its new, and before I carry it, it will work 100% of the time, you can bet on that. Any new gun can have a few hiccups in the first 200 rounds, some take over 500 to really break in. And small guns are often a little picky. It is nothing against sig, yet. This is fairly normal ... so far... if it continues, that is another story.

Depends. The government here (local, state?) draw new business into the area by direct support: they cut deals to the incoming business to get them to come here --- tax breaks, for example, is one way to pay a business without paying them directly. Not typical of a fast food chain (this sort of thing is usually for larger employeers!) but it happens. I have also watched out local government change zone rules to allow or disallow a business to set up shop. I have seen places granted access roads and denied them (we lost an entire mall to lack of an access road, direct connection, remember that place?). Government can support or stifle a business by doing ordinary things that it already does in a seemingly harmless manner. Granting or denying a liscense is just one of those. I remember several fights here in chattanooga where the powers that be denied a place a renewal of a beer liscense or similar in an underhanded but direct approach to destroying the place (to be fair, this has been done to troublesome places, high crime / violent bar type establishments). At the end of it all, I cannot see a discrimination suit against a single business since there are other businesses up there with christian backgrounds. Abuse of power? maybe I can see that one and agree to it. Letting his personal opinons cloud his judgement? Yes, if that is a crime. Every which way you look at it, the only "group" that one could claim he is agains would be "homophobes" --- not exactly a good place to be standing to start a discrimination suit.

The video game and movie angle is mostly garbage. I will accept that the worst of these can make an already insane/unstable person do something, or perhaps give them an idea they would not have had on their own, but the problem is the individual psychopath in question, not his inspiration. There are tens of millions of people who have spent untold hours in front of some very disturbing games, movies, "adult" material, even books. There are a very tiny number of nutcases who have gone off the deep end due to exposure to the same --- talking at most a thousand or 2 out of tens of millions -- fractions of 1 percent if that. A bully does not have to have an abusive parent or anything else. Some kids learn early that they are bigger and stronger and can push others around. Other kids learn that as a group they can destroy the bully. Others learn to be victims. Children left alone are a major eye opener and a taste of what to expect if society ever breaks down, never forget that.

Its still the best small 9 I have found to date, even with a few negatives, and I have shot many, if not most, of the pocket sized 9s. So the negatives against the 238 are still positives against most of the other micros. The mags are the only "really bad" feature, sig needs to look at those.

Welcome! A machinist is an up & coming gunsmith in my book.

you can probably get something like the slide engraved almost anywhere if you take it off the gun (this is very easy to do, and part of routine cleaning). At that point, its not a gun (the frame is the gun legally) so you could ship it off or find a local, and the only one who might object would be an anti-gun business. You can ship a slide without any special precautions. It would be wise to send it to a place that has done guns before, so they do not inadvertently damage it. Edit: remove the barrel and spring and all from the slide. Well, if he is going to carry it at all, I would tell him about the gift and get his input --- size, weight, even caliber --- you may find he wants anything from a full sized 45 to a 1911ish 9mm compact or anything in between. If the focus is more toward target practice, a fullsized 45 is very hard to beat. Some of the similar guns are not exactly a 1911 but they are the same general design/shape/etc and some of those have advantages for carry that the classic does not (smaller, lighter, more capacity, other stuff). As said above, a classic full sized 1911 can be carried and many do, but others find them big and heavy --- this is all personal preference so you got to either spill the beans or probe him a bit while being mysterious. Good luck with it.

I also would pick that DW over any kimber. Kimbers are flashier, but there is a simple beauty to that gun coupled with quality. I like kimbers for what they are, and if looking for a carry gun, kimber would be in the running. But for a fullsized 1911 not to carry, kimber would be edged out for me by a number of brands.

If you want to drive down here, you can try mine. I expect the jam issue is a break-in or ammo woe and am not concerned. The trigger is not bad, its just worse than the 238, its all relative. And thats a well loved 238 with easily 1000+ rounds in it, I do not remember what it was like new.

If I used everything I had in stock, and the brass multiple times, I doubt I could make 60k rounds of ammo... wow. I would say 25k would run me dry, and I doubt I have 25k primers. More like half that. I need mo primers.... thanks for reminding me Bill!

Well, I did not get the first one but after waiting what felt like forever, I now have a sig 938! The breakdown: Breaking in: It jammed a bunch on the first 25 rounds. I took it home and did a massive clean & lube before trying again. After that, it did it twice more in 100 or so rounds. It just failed to close the slide and chamber, for no apparent reason, and whack the slide did not help i had to clear it and try the nexxt round. Could be the ammo (all cheap!) or tight chamber or something. Jury is out on this. size is perfect, its really only a tiny bit off the 238. It fits in the 238 holster I use. trigger is ok. Its heavier than the 238, and has a little more pretravel, but its still better than a DA/SA SA pull by a lot. Its like a cheap 1911 now, while the 238 was like a mid grade 1911. accuracy: as good as the 238, which is very good for the size gun it is. I cut the x ring out of a typical man target @ 10 yard marker easily with my hand-loaded ammo. Not that my ammo is special, but I shot up the factory stuff rapidly and the hand loaded stuff was slow fire. recoil: as expected, more than the 238. Its not bad, but I could only just control the gun one-handed shooting rapidly. I would rate it as moderate -- its less than a small .40 and more than than my cz rami 9mm. Other: the mags flat out suck. Period. The feed lips are sharpish and the spring is so strong I can just barely load them with a great deal of force pushing down against a table. Also, when empty the mag springs (on both mags, its not a glitch!) can slip out just a hair preventing any compression of the follower (the spring is outside the mag body just a tiny bit and it jams up). The flat (no grip extension, one less round) mag is very sharp on the bottom, and if the mag did not go in easily it could cut you if you slammed it home (it goes in easy, however). I took a whetstone to that. The mags work fine in the gun, at least. Storing them loaded might help the spring power, but wow. The ambi safety is a big deal. I can sorta left hand carry it now, but it really needs a mag drop reversal (not possible?) too. All in all: pretty happy. Its not as much fun to shoot as the 380 due to worse trigger and recoil, but the extra power makes me feel a better about the package. The mags are probably always going to be a minor aggravation. If the jam issue clears up with more break in & quality ammo, I will be more than satisfied with it. If the trigger breaks in too, that would be a sweet bonus.