Jonnin

I said the same days and days ago. He is the exact same as obama in every way that counts: anti gun, big government, high tax liberal who's campain slogan may as well be "slightly better than the alternative".

^^^^ exactly. Anyone ever seen a pro reload a 5 shot shotgun? A mad minute with an enfield or whatever it is? A master with a 1800s replica henry? A pro cowboy shooter? Some of the videos of the best shooters make a novice with an AR-15 look like a stooge. Now, if this guy had one of those bump-fire stocks and had cleared his jammed up AR properly, we could talk real damage. He maybe accomplished 10% of what he could have done with the right tools and training. It will happen. Someday, someone who knows something is going to snap. It will not be pretty. This guy? He failed, really. Hard to say that to the victims, but there were 12 dead out of a full (???) theater (??). That is really low. Confirmed, the theater was sold out according to a couple of sources.

Yes. I saw one about 2 months ago, fellow shooter at the range. Thankfully it did not cycle the gun and someone else noticed before he fired again. This is the first one I have seen in several years from factor ammo, though. I would not worry about it in general, but as a rule of thumb, if you are not in a firefight, if a round fires but does not cycle your gun and does not make a hole in the target, take a look. At least he said it was factory ---- I did not get much of a look. I do not remember the details, just remember them tapping it out of the barrel.

That trigger is long and heavy; I can empty my new sig (938, it finally came!) before I can fire the lc9 twice. My hands are just not strong enough to run a platform like this effectively, but I have seen it done and those who can do it make it look good. If you do not mind the trigger, the rest of the gun is sweet. Its a great size and shape. The couple I have been around seemed reliable 100%.

Um he would ask the person to leave and they would, of course. Just like that guy out west the other day who decided to NOT shoot up a theater because it had a sign saying no guns allowed!

Verbally. The donation was sort of an apology to that event, IMHO. Its right there in the eary links... ---gay marriage is “inviting God’s judgment on our nation.†Again, take this from the perspective of if YOU were the mayor of a major gay city. Would you invite in a business that insulted a large % of your voters? I would not.

Here, I found it again for those that asked. http://ideas.time.co...mment-595328384 The author: Jon Meacham is the author of the Pulitzer Prize–winning American Lion and an executive editor at Random House Read more: http://ideas.time.co.../#ixzz21ZAvdVl9 If you read his general comments he is clearly a lefty (how else, at time) but this is over the top even for a lefty.

It is the same. It is a statement against the citizens of the city in question in both cases. They are both random statements that someone may think to be true, but cannot defend with logic or proof, they are just opinions. The charter can take it back to the constitution that way, yes. But the constitution has no commentary on what a city may choose to allow or disallow inside its borders --- or even at the state level. What in the constitution are you reading that allows someone to operate a business in an area where it is not wanted? I think its a wash: you have a city discriminating against a business that discriminates. Who wins that ??? Chick could have said "we are a christian based company" and left it there, they would have been granted a liscense. Its not discrimination against them for being a christian company, its a reaction to the statement. I note that there are 2 pages of results for bible book stores in boston, as well as 2+ pages of "christian store boston". If they banned all christian stores, that would be a clear cut case of discrimination by the city/state for sure, and that would be an issue. One store that made a controversial statement? Not discrimination.

Heh the last time my wife was checked, she had a gun in the purse and they missed it (carry purse, hidden area). Gotta love it when the ticket taker doubles as security guard, makes me feel much safer and stuff.

I fully support both sides here. The city has the right to say who can open a business inside it and a business is free to stick its nose into politics or religion or whatever else if it wants to go there (this is bad for business unless you run something affiliated like a bible bookshop or something!). I cannot get mad at the mayor for that --- if a business came to ME for permission to set up shop after saying something like "our company feels the south is full of uneducated morons" I would probably tell them they have my permission to set up shop in hades. This is the same thing, when you consider he is the mayor of a major gay mecca (boston often makes the top 10-20 most gay friendly city listings).

Aye & sig makes one specifically for the gun that does the same, but I like what I have just fine (remorra which sticks to the pocket liner very well and gives good access to the grip). the problem is not having the gun in a pocket with other stuff --- trust me, if it were an issue, I would have shot myself by now, I have had a gun in a pocket for over a decade now. The problem was this guy pulled on the trigger of his piece somehow --- same as always, not reported, but that is what happened.

I do. And a spare mag. And its in a holster that covers the trigger. the wallet offers concealment by producing a wallet outline on the pocket. All that is in standard jeans pockets, not some monster pocket or tactical clothing. I can get my hand in there and draw it without issue. My wallet is thinner than most --- just my HCP/DL, couple of credit cards, not much else to pull this off, mind you, its not a 5 pound man wallet of 1 million photos and business cards etc.

24 is not a kid. That is an adult. I argue that today's kids are just like any other generation. Young thugs have caused destruction, death, and more across histroy, some by pranks gone wrong, some by meaness, etc. Most people under 25 or so have a reduced sense of consequence. This is why the military of most countries for the past many centuries have used younger men for soldiers.

I have no idea --- I sort of agree with you which is why I said supposedly. My thoughts on it.. 1) the primers SAY to not touch them, as body oils in your hands can supposedly (there is that word again) kill them. 2) Modern ammo is pretty tight. The primers are jacked in under force, the bullets are jacked in under force --- the bulk of this stuff is waterproof (as others who like to launder their ammo have noted) and therefore mostly oilproof. Kroil or something might get in there, but most water and oil cannot. Maybe if you took it apart and doused the primer directly.... and some makers (and reloaders) seal their ammo on top of the friction seal which is already pretty good. 3) I think most primers have a light seal to protect them --- think about electronics, most electronics are splash proof (rain, etc) but few can be submerged to 20+ meters for very long and continue to function. Think of primers as splash protected, but I am not 100% sure about that. 4) Someone did do a test, I forget now... most of the primers were neutralized but some fired, so whatever oil he used (and it was directly on the primers, not assembled ammo) was not 100% sure to work. Given that, and the above comment on ammo being pretty tight, and the odds of a complete round being neutralized by oil is slim. Maybe given time to soak in.... but I doubt it.

Sounds like some of them made it, do they get obamacare now?

IMHO nothing will ever make us look as bad as the atlanta olympics opening ceremony. Monster trux & yeeha? Its like they import a yankee or a left coast idiot to plan these things and they cram in all the stereotypes that will fit and then some. You can almost bet on it, if the show is as described (no clue, I do not watch tv) that one or the other is behind it as the writer/producer or bankroll. My job takes me to DC now and then. Arrogant bunch, soon as they hear the accent they make all sorts of assumptions. But drive around the town, and half the buildings look to be falling in, spray painted, and totally ghetto. If DC is so much better, why does it look like a bad gangsta movie set?

Its not all gloom & doom. The democrat gov of Colorado said gun control was worthless and would not have stopped this guy. ICE-T had some good comments. Tons of others taking a pro-gun stance about it. That is not the strange part, the strange part is that the pro gun stuff made the news, on the first pages even! And the anti-gun crowd has nothing new to add .... just the parrot ban ban ban chant. Worst I saw was some reject in the times (of course) claiming that as a gun owner he supports gun bans because he only likes bolt action rifles anyway, so they can take up everything else so long as they do not take his. It was amazing stupidity.

if no one said it, supposedly oil (almost any sort?) kills the primers. I try them again. If they do not fire the second time around, I toss them in the range can. Lot of times, a misfire will shoot the second try, esp rimfire.

Wait, he carried past the sign and that is legal??? Now they may have trouble finding something to charge him with. Apparently the guns were legal too. Maybe they have an ordinence against shooting inside city limits that can be used? I must be missing something here, surely he won't go free due to a lack of laws, that would be terrible!

A 44 mag out of a 3 inch barrel has about 1/2 the energy of a 223 out of an AR, very roughly. No handgun comes close to a rifle. In a rifle, the 44 has MORE energy than a 223, but no one is going to have their lever gun on their back in public

The point of being able to respond..... questions benefit everyone. like, when was it made, what caliber is it, etc. PM sent or "ill take it" --- public record in case of dispute between who responded first. For whatever that does. Moderators can put the smack down on inappropriate comments without a forum wide ban. Seems a bit heavy handed, there were not that many negative or bad comments (but way, way, way too many "durr I gots one of them" posts).

Safety (the device!!!!) is over-rated. The px4 has one, sure, but the first shot is a 5 or 6 pound pull across more than an inch of travel (just like most other DA/SA guns). A glock will go off before the PX4 will if you pulled both triggers.... and glocks are considered to be "safe". The only time you need a safety is a short trigger, really. Even a light but very long pull is safe enough (glock, again). I do not feel the need to use the safety on a DA/SA gun. I would ask... striker fired, DAO, DA/SA, SAO preference? Capacity? Assuming roughly 6.5 or less by 5 or so by thinner is better? Lots of midsized and smallish 9mms for that rough price, so narrow it down is good.

The reply thing is new. That seems wrong, we should be able to post a reply to buy as a peon, right?

there are many levels of body armor. The cheap stuff, a 9mm will crack a rib or leave a nasty, painful bruise : it stops the penetration but the energy goes right on through. The better stuff has plates and layers and more which can reduce the impact. A 10mm or 44 or rifle etc is still going to hurt, but quality stuff would make those bearable while a cheap vest a 44 mag or better has a good chance of actually stopping the threat via pain or damage. So the answer is, it depends. But for once, I feel my 380 might be a little light.

I had a px4 sub (.40) and sold it. The good: accurate, reliable, and such. adjustable grip was nice. recoil was not bad --- 9 will be very gentle rugged and well made. easy to clean etc the other: typical DA/SA trigger is average. safety level is a unique fishook design, that not only is 100% assured to snag anything nearby, but adds 1/4 an inch of width to the already fat gun. It is extremely fat for its size. All in all, a good gun but even after grinding the safetys off it was still too fat for my carry tastes. I replaced it with the CZ RAMI. The XD is a very nice platform, I have shot a couple but someone else can comment on those. I dislike the ones with grip safety, that is one of the worst 1911 features and dragging it to another model was a mistake IMHO.