Jonnin

now you know they are busy! Brother AL is a tv personality now, and I am sure Jesse has some secretary or something else to do.

Welcome! I also recommend a good .22 pistol. You can learn the basics of pistol marksmanship for pennys a shot. Some ideas would be a target pistol to work on accuracy (ruger mark, browning buckmark, s&w 22a are my 3 favorite beginner target models). Or a revolver, ruger single action or whatever you like the look & feel of. Or maybe something more similar to a self defense gun, like the cz kadet. One of those 3 ideas (accuracy, revolver, or defense style practice) is a great starting point. If you are looking for a bigger bang, 9mm is one of the least expensive ammo types with the most options for a gun, from revolvers to ultra compacts to 1911ish models and more. Also, rent, borrow, try things before sinking too much money into pistols, figure out what YOU like early on by exposure to many things.

well thats a relief that it was moved. Wouldnt want people to think we had a stolen gun in the classified section? Ah, nevermind. Sorry to hear about the theft, good luck with getting it back.

welcome! That is about as far from me as you could get and still be in TN, so no idea on the home situation. The price of things being a bit.... different here, you could probably buy an entire home for what you think of as "rent", if you were looking to buy eventually. I would bet my mortgage payment is less than an apartment in CA, in other words.

I would argue that said act of congress would make the price go UP exponentially. There is something to be said for a fine, valuable firearm. But what comes to mind is "difficult to sell for what you think it is worth". Take for example my 243 sako finnbear deluxe. Supposedly its worth 3-4k. Getting that kind of money out of someone in these economic times for a gun they would not (or should not) shoot is difficult! Yes, its a desirable piece, and if I spent enough time I might get a good value for it, but most buyers would rather have the my shooter 243 for 1/10 the cost of the safe queen. So, this gun was a "good" investment, but at the same time, its a frustrating one in a bad economy. Too many people are selling the safe queens because they need the money, and the supply of interesting guns that have been long stored away is UP right now (lotta people need the money!). As an investor, you could do well buying some of them. But the next time the economy is in the tank, or if it never recovers, the actual ability to turn the item into cash is lessened and the cash is worth less to boot. I would have more luck selling a sackful of $500 or less guns than the "investment" if I had to sell stuff right now, or a can of ammo, than I would with the pricy stuff. If you want long term investment, then, I would say get a safe queen from some poor guy selling off his collection in hard times, this is good time to do that. If you want a short term investment, get some reliable, working hardware that you can resell when the price goes up after one of the democrats (obama or romney) win.

Well, you can tell the author just googled and assembled for sure. The 2 or 4 bore or whatever it is round in hand is NOT a trex, which is a necked cartridge. There are a couple of other mistakes too, as someone noted FMJ is a used in military applications to allow the soldier to recover, a gentleman's approach to war, and a bullet designed to ensure the victim survives isnt humane hunting! Now, a FMJ tumbler is as good as a JHP, and should be as humane, but thats getting too deep for this guy to even think about. I would say he has nothing against legit hunting but is woefully uneducated. The turkey slicer.... is humane and going to take some skill to use. I dare the author to try to behead an animal clean with that thing, would be a heck of a shot for most. Most archers I see could barely hit a deer at all, anywhere on the body, at 50 yards. A turkey head, they would have to be 10 feet away --- the birds do NOT stand still for long usually. The big caliber stuff gives the hunter no advantage, really. It makes a mess, breaks your shoulder, and the animal is just as dead as it would be with a 223. Its not overpowered in terms of giving the hunter an edge. The blind is not that much better than a standard one. Its cooler, by far, and makes some great photos, but animals are not going to see a standard blind any better. I think this guy is totally into the blood & guts, not a PETA style guy at all. I suspect he actually got a thrill thinking about the applications of these tools, rather than being disgusted.

the state is in control, so you don't have to worry about every little village having its own rules. These are off limits: 1) In a government building; (2) In a courthouse; (3) In a jail or prison; (4) In a place of worship (that place can override the rule, but in general, no); (5) In a state mental health facility (6) In a bar, unless the owner of the bar permits (bar means bar. Bar does not mean nice restraunt that has a bar, it means a bar). (7) On the premises of a nuclear power facility (8) Polling places (during voting times) and the usual, schools and such. Looks like you can store them in your car at most of the restricted places, I think that means in a locked box and possibly (??) unloaded. The rest seems to be mostly just like TN. This seems to be up to date : http://www.handgunla...tes/georgia.pdf

well go with their advice. I googled around, looked at it and all, but I didnt see a good way to use them nor a reasonable charge of powder. Didnt think of adding to it that way. 1.5 TB ... wow. I think a 22 would kick more

looks like the kel tec pmr 30 a bit.

The show-shooters did a lot of funky things in performances though.

its #6.... 15 year olds with 308s? I can shoot mine 10 times with standard ammo and I am DONE for the day. I still hesitate on this caliber for young, weak, or 'non gun' people. That is the only thing that still concerns me about the setup. A 30-30 is even too much for more than a few rounds --- my wife shot her 30-30 a bunch (30 rounds or so?) one day and was bad sore for a week (6 foot and 175 or so for her if weight and height matter?). I guess if you put that much firepower downrange, things are bad enough that a sore shoulder is a small price to pay for survival, and you will be glad to have had these weapons. But if you really, really think you need an extended long range highpower shootout plan that could last for days or something, a 243 would be a lot kinder to these shooters, at a cost of more $$ per shot. Seems like a very, very unlikely scenario to have to shoot many, many rounds of this type of ammo. If that is happening, things are very bad indeed.

Yes, if the extra money isnt an issue I would rather have the mossy too. If she has shot it and can handle it, then the 4 you have listed sound excellent.

wow, ok. I am not sure where to go from here. I would say a fatter powder to fill more of the case would be in your best interest, though. The powers you listed, using this oddball bullet, are going to be using very small amounts (at a guess in the 2 grain neighborhood) leaving the case all but empty. 38 or 357 cases? How far away is the target/ or what sort of performance did you need?

mini 14 is very difficult to reload is all. The mags go in, they click, but still may not be seated right and you do not know until it tries to feed off the mag and gets nothing in the chamber. Otherwise a very sweet gun. The mosin and the 308 are on par, but the 308 is probably going to cost more. Recoil is a wash -- mosin kicks harder because of the lack of recoil pad, not because of the caliber. You can get a rubber slip on pad for not much and walk out ahead on ammo price & gun cost. Only reason to get 308 IMHO is to go semi auto (which you can do on the cheap... FA91 for example is a cheap gun in used condition). The others I agree with but a BA 308, while a fine gun, is questionable in terms of usability for the family and average price (buying them new). Not sure what to say but if the wife/kids are weaker, a 308 may be too much ?? Have they tried to use a gun with this much kick? (and it follows that if the 308 is too much so is the mosin).

Sorry for your loss. I cannot imagine that job, getting to know/like/be around person after person then losing them one by one. That does indeed take a special person.

my wife just went for the taurus 941 (steel version!) and we are hoping that turns out well. Since it is in the shop for an action cleanup (its quite gritty and stout), all I can say so far is it is very accurate and seems to be well made, and that the out of the box action is borderline awful. We will see how it cleans up. This is an exchange for an aluminum S&W 22 mag, something PD, which cracked its cylinder after about 4 months. They fixed it, but we did not trust it to last given the way my wife goes thru ammo.

My wife also names everything. Sigh. And she expects me to remember it all. Lets see... Harry. My 44 revolver. (this should be obvious). Abraham, the 44 auto. (Its israli, see?) marvin. Her marlin 30-30. (Marvin the marlin? Maybe she was thinking of marvin the martian. I dont ask). Max. Inherited from my aunt max(ine) s&w 38 snubbie that everyone had at least 4 of in 1960. Blackbeard. The AR(RRRRR), or evil BLACK rifle, see? They all make sense, sorta. It just gets worse from here, I think I will stop now.

still just tossing stuff around.... remember that if you buy 3 at once, you only pay 1 background. You might can find a dealer that will cut you slack for buying all this stuff. One of those 'the more you buy, the more you save' things? Esp duplicates. Given the sheer amount of money you are talking about, what if you got your OWN FFL? You would have to do paperwork, but you could cut your costs by 30% or more at some expense for the liscense. I think if I were looking to buy 20 guns in one year, I would do it. You also get a cut rate on the ammo!!

Correct, the disks are way off, you cannot use their charts. You have to weigh them and pick the closest fit. They are linear however. If you figure out for example the the .54 disk is 5 grains of powder X, then the 1.10 disk is going to be right at 10 grains. So, really, you only have to do 3 things to get your load right from the disk system: 1) put in any disk with your powder, and weigh / average say 10 charges of it. Always run the disk device 3-4 times to ensure flow and all, so the first couple of charges out of it may be off. 2) compute a ratio of disk size to powder grains. So if .54 is 5 grains, and you want 6.2 grains: .54/5.0 X 6.2 = .67 so you want the closest disk hole to .67. If that does not exist, you go up or down as you see fit or you have to use another type of powder... there are some loads where it is simply not possible to pick a disk to provide a load you want. This is most common with hot powders --- when trying to work with something that is say 3.2 to 4.0 from starter to "dont go there" loads... there may only be one disk choice and that might be 3.4 grains and fail to cycle your gun, the next one might be 4.5 grains. There are just not enough holes with enough fine grain changes to work with this type of hot powder. 3) pick the disk you computed. Throw and weigh 10 charges again to verify that you did not mess up and that it is what you expected. Done.

Is nonna my business, but what do you already have? I think compared to most people I have a large number of firearms, so I really do not have a perspective on what normal people have. I think I can lay my hands on close to 40. If you are like me and have "extra" .... maybe you can use some of them? Again, I said it before, but you do not have to have an AR to get a semi auto 223 or 308, and a SKS with a couple of tins of ammo is a very cheap option. The AK and its friends has been proven in battle time and time again --- used by teenage boys in some areas, even young girls in a few places, and some of those were the full auto guns. I would bet your wife & kids can handle such.

maybe mine is not so bad after all. It has a +.2 grain variation, but if you tap the item being loaded so that it always comes to rest on the weight from the HIGH weight value side, it is consistent. I dunno if I just loaded a bunch of 10.8 or 11 grain loads, but doing it this way, they are all the same at least. If I can tap something and get the same final weight 3 times in a row, its good enough for me. Not optimal, and probably not good enough for really, really serious folks, but I can make it work and it was only like $30.

Camera? That looked like a GUN! .... It was pointed right at me!

48 grains is .22 LR sized so it has to be 148 as stated. 90 grains is almost a sphere as a 380 which is usable in a 357 but much smaller and it simply will not fit in the case properly (it will shortly become a "coin" shaped round to fit in the case -- which may be dangerous as it can turn and stick in the barrel or do funky things in flight if too thin, not 100% sure but I would not do it). If its 148 there is plenty of published data. If you want a light load, you CAN use the 90 grain 380 bullets. Lead 380s will expand and bite the rifling and seal the barrel and should work great in a 3 inch+ barrel 357/38. You do not have to use black powder to make a light load. Just use less powder than published, and work with it until it is stable (experiments will produce unstable bullets, IE the rifling did not spin it enough so it may keyhole and be terribly inaccurate). I strongly advise you to make in the neighborhood of 75% of a standard pressure 38 special load to start. Going too low will give erratic results and the recoil of the 75% load is very, very mild already while maintaining enough oomph to behave properly.

looks like a sig 238? I clean mine about every month and a half. It has lint in the hammer and firing pin area, and not a cake of it, just a little bit. Nothing inside. The biggest reason I clean it that often is to relube it more than to do anything, but I have pulled some hair out of the inside once or twice. I like it to have a good coat of lube. I am confident it could shoot with the junk and no lube, but I paid way too much for it to abuse it.

funny as can be, but alas, the rapid breeding program in various, ahem, "ethnic districs" alone are sufficient to repopulate the species.