Jonnin

Ive shot the .22 that is the same design, no troubles there. .32 is not a major caliber but it will work fine. The biggest problem I have with anything under a .380 is that the guns are usually not much smaller or higher cap than the small 380s, fractions of an inch and 1 extra round usually, so you give up firepower for small gains. That is just my personal preference though, basically I look at caliber last and pick the biggest thing that I can get to meet all the other needs. If I did want a carry .32 or .25 these berettas would be top contenders.

pretty much has to be intentional. You cant fire a 15 pound 2 inch long pull trigger pull pistol by accident, you just cant. Which describes all of the KT 9mms, only their rifles and big stuff has a short trigger. Additionally the design isnt going to fire from anything else, its stripped down to be a bare bones design and there is nothing else that will do it.

my wife has the 9mm 17 or 18 rounder. It is AMAZINGLY accurate, she really does make 1 ragged hole at 20-30 foot ranges. They are cocked and locked guns, which matters because NEITHER of us can pull the DA trigger. Once it is in the SA pull its a typical DA trigger: long and sloppy, just like a beretta or ruger or whatever else. She uses it for 3 gun and her around the house 'carry' (or more like, 'sitting nearby'). This is her favorite gun, she loves the grip and angle, the feel of it shooting, the accuracy, etc. The trigger isnt great but its on par with most other DA guns. I like it as well, its one of the best DA 9mm I have shot, and at least equal to my beretta 92. Let me also comment that you do NOT always get what you pay for in the gun world. Several of my favorite guns were not all that pricy. Lot of middle grade guns ($500 give or take) are charging the buyer for a brand name / logo more than anything else.

I had its cousin. The trigger is brutal and the internal finish can be rough as well, but if you are willing to take it a part to polish the internal parts or spend some time on a break in, they do well. The kel tec owners site has all sorts of info on how to polish and improve these inexpensive guns to ensure reliable performance. If you are the type that expects it to work 100% out of the box, you may be better off spending another $100 for more polished production firearm. I love the size and weight, but cannot abide DAO guns, that is the only reason I sold mine and not a reflection on the gun. I got it from ignorance -- gunshow vendor swindled me by calling it double action, and me not knowing any better....

The old way was water so hot it evaporated after flushing, followed by oil/cleaning. Chemistry works too, windex for sure will, if not prevent damage, slow the process if you need time before you can clean it properly.

Or, caster, he used this "accident" to do away with her. You never know, its been tried before. I had more questions than you did... where did the ammo come from? Why did the clerk allow him to load it or point it at someone? What are the odds of a fatal hit by accident, or even a hit upon another person, if you do a probability cone off his general arm direction as he"accidentally" fired it? Why are they doing an autopsy, cause of death is pretty darn clear, she was shot and stuff? Everything about this sounds fishy, but that may just be sensationalistic reporting. I do not know whch is worse, the stupidity required to have an accident like this (takes breaking about 10 common sense rules, from waving a gun around to having a loaded gun to touching the trigger and more) or trying to fake an accident to murder someone. Both are pretty bad options.

I understand what you said but if the reverse happened (something borked up the oil supply) the prices would increase THAT DAY even if it were bought under the lower prices of the day before. That was my point, really... it will take months for the 'price decrease to filter down' but it sure does not take months for it to trickle the other way...

What gets me about all this is the oil industry. I am not a trying to be a basher, but one does have to notice how a potential issue that never happens can raise gas prices instantly and keep them high for weeks while in this case the media reports that victory for the rebels is likely to cause a decrease in oil prices and gas and so on but we have not seen this decrease yet.... the price should drop on good news as fast as it rises on bad.

When out and about I do play the "spot the gun" game for fun. Nothing more, just for fun. And I see few, and as I said most of the time when you spot one its some guy (I have yet to spot one on a female, by the way) with a massive belt or oversized clothing. I have not seen a fanny pack out and about, but if I did see a camo one on a guy, I would look carefully. For the fun of it, because I get bored shopping etc. I freely admit there is a lot I do not know, unlike the mindreaders who can tell what I am thinking at any given moment. Who was the know it all again? What I am thinking right now is that your crystal ball is on the blink, but you knew that.

FWIW the 303 brit is .311 diameter and I have been using that in my 765. It may or may not be a great choice for the 762 -- I have not tried that, but the 303 is still available in most reloading stores. They are usually sorta large, so it may be a bit of a thumper at 180 grains in an AK.

I am pretty sure (99%) the NA grips would fit it. Probably can find that out online. Trench sights are good and bad... they sorta suck, but they do not snag, and they are fine for defense though not exactly great for target pistols. When pushing the boarder of what you can stuff into a pocket, big sights are the last straw

Its a very nice gun; I am torn on this one or a couple of similar models and may yet get one. If I got the defender (I prefer new agent, same frame, different details) I would put new agent grips on it for carry, or keep those rubber ones on it for a target gun. I would get low profile/no snag sights, but I plan to pocket carry mine. Other forms of carry, with the right holster, the original sights are probably OK but they are too snaggy for pocketz. I couldnt comment on a regular holster but the ramorra pocket holsters are great as they stick to the pocket and the gun pulls free easily.

I will say that a camo one is going to make anyone "in the know" think "gun". Get a neon blue or something so you look like a tourist, not military green or camo so you look like someone trying to hide a gun. Its worse than wearing a large belt--- you may as well get a t-shirt that says "GUN HERE" with a big arrow pointing to it.

Good bucks use good steel, you can make them a bit sharper than some cheaper knives. Thickness of the blade is another factor to toss around with the steel quality and so on. I do not even know the angles I use, its sort of zenny on a per-knife basis, and I only use my stones, never any modern devices or so on. I have from grinding stone coarse to surgical fine but unless making a knife or starting on something that is badly damaged or worn out or something the top 3 stones are all that I need. I stop when I can shave my arm with it, regardless of what it is, that is good enough for a long time on a good piece of steel and will barely stand one small job on my soft swiss army knife blades (but I don't really carry those for the knife anyway).

I know little about it... is it that hard to make homemade hard-cast lead? Ive shot plenty of that in poly guns without issue.

I would not sell it out of sheer stubbornness. When the police have weapons and the public does not, that is a police state. CA is about 1/2 a step away from this.

Maybe, maybe not, but he was educated here if my memory serves, and tried to tell the leaders that getting into it with us was a bad idea. It sort of sounds like him, but maybe it was not.

Right. And the momentum that I mentioned is also over simplified, I never meant to say it was a realistic way to model the thing. All I was saying is that both variables matter and velocity is often over-rated. A tiny slug @ 3k FPS does certain things well. A brick dropped from an airplane does other stuff really well. Somewhere between the 2, we make our choices depending on what we like/dislike or want/need.

Its all relative. The trigger on mine moves 2/3 of 1 CM from untouched to fired. Difficult to pull is more of an issue for us old folks, typing for 20 years has done my hands and arms no favors and I cannot fire most DAO guns that I have picked up, and of the ones that I can fire (380s, para LDA, etc), more than 20 shots or so will still make me cramp up and possibly miss a day of work afterwards. That p-40 I had holds the record, one magazine thru it and I was done for the day.

A hot topic indeed. I agree and disagree with the OP. I agree that the classic 1911 has many flaws that can (and have been) be improved, including capacity, the silly grip safety, the awful bushing problem, overpriced smith and hardware and platforms, and more. However, the glock is not the ultimate weapon either. Its light weight makes the recoil worse, the grip angle is not great, and its "striker" (dont all guns strike the primer with something that could be called a "striker"??) design gives a trigger that has more slop than a pig farm. That leaves those of us who like a single action gun out in the cold: we have a choice between guns with extremely poor triggers that can sometimes be fixed (to the tune of hundreds of dollars extra per gun, and a fixed glock is not safe, only fit for the range never to carry) or guns that are direct decendants of the 1911, or a revolver. For some unholy reason, gun companies CANNOT or WILL NOT make a DA semi auto that has the internals of a DA revolver (when cocked, it really is like a SA revolver, with a tight, short, crisp trigger). One of my early pistols was a S&W DA that looks like a 1911 in every way except the trigger group. Like most other DA autos though the SA pull has a ton of slop and I was never able to clean it up enough to use. I am not a 1911 fanboy but until there are SA options in other platforms, I am stuck with it, and it could be a lot worse.

If the gun is for the UNIT, and not some special event, you could also just get the 25 in hopes they will sell at a later date, as people change their mind and turnover happens, so long as there isnt some date that makes it a one time deal. You can have other things done as well; one group I saw had the guns filled and refinished to remove everything the manufacturer put on the gun then re-engraved for the specific custom job. Also, the small shop engraver may be a great option, combine that with some custom grips maybe, as IMHO nothing offsets a custom gun like custom grips... I know you are on a budget, but type of gun is cool too. I do not know about you but PARA or SIG do not scream american soldier to me. How about a solid US brand, maybe even, since its 2011, a 1911 would make sense? Just food for thought.

Lol! I freely admit it was expensive, thats no lie. I think mine was around $600 out the door (its vague, it was part of a trade and exact value is fuzzy cause of that). Not for the shooter on a budget, but if you can afford enough 380 ammo to practice enough to carry one, its probably managable, IMHO. I prefer not to be a gun snob but thats just the truth with the price of this caliber. If on a budget for a small frame/caliber, the 9x18 stands alone for ammo price and gun quality, its what I had before the sig.

But penetration is king --- or so many say that anyway, and momentum is directly a measure of how difficult an object is to bring to a stop. That is simply M*V, so any increase in either variable (with all other things staying the same) will give better penetration. The 357 has a medium diameter, a good amount of mass, a high velocity --- of course it is a decent penetrator. Take a 357 caliber spitball and push it to the same energy level as that 357 via extreme velocity, and it will not penetrate squat (maybe fatal at blank range, but tell me all about it at 20 yards or after going thru a car door), because it has almost no mass and will stop rapidly just from air resistance, nevermind what a solid target would do to it.

Pull my weapon *quietly* and without drawing attention to myself. THEN call 911. Then focus on being a good observer unless the situation gets bad enough to justify intervention. If I have to put him down, it will be a shot in the back of the head if I have my way, without warning -- and that only to save the life of the cashier or others if necessary. Otherwise, he can have the money and try to outrun the police, and I will bust out some popcorn for that show.

All the DAO 380s are direct copies of kel tec, so its really just a choice between price and fit/finish/polish. Ruger has good facilities and did a great job copying this design, its one of the best of the copies. If you like a light trigger and light recoil gun, you really should try out the sig 238 before you spend $$, just to be sure. The moving barrel design soaks the recoil and the SA trigger can empty a mag blindingly fast, both combined mean many hits on a target in a second or 2. I wouldnt trade my sig for a sackfull of the kel tec clones, and I am sure others feel the reverse -- the only way to know which you like best is to try both!