URGENT - POSSIBLE VETO ON PARKS BILL!!!

[Wingshooter]

Does the governor have to notify the House/Senate before the deadline if he vetos, or can he sign it (a veto) on the plane?

[VolunteerGuns]

He packs a half dozen State Troopers. No need for anything else. Thought we all had them!! No?

[Guest stovepipe]

New from the CA: Guns-in-parks bill not recalled, up to Gov. Bredesen to decide : Mid-South : Memphis Commercial Appeal

[Wingshooter]

Batman did you just say the governor is packing?!

[OngoingFreedom]

I just spoke to one of the State pilots who's probably just now returning from Knoxville (just a chit-chat, I'm just now getting current on this thread for the day). He had taken Commissioner Whitaker but didn't say anything about the governor being there.

[RinTN]

Does the governor have to notify the House/Senate before the deadline if he vetos, or can he sign it (a veto) on the plane?

I would venture to guess that he doesn't actually have to be present to physically "sign" the veto. I would think that he probably has someone who can act as a proxy upon his command. Again, just a guess - which could be wildly wrong.

[Mike.357]

but didn't say anything about the governor being there.

if I read the Knox News Sentinel website correctly old Phil was a no show at the ribbon cutting ceremony.

And to add, I dunno, but I would think if he vetos anything he has to do it personally, can't have his secretary rubber stamp it for him.

[Guest tonybon]

he has till midnight. is this right?

[JayC]

he has till midnight. is this right?

That appears to be the case.

[GLOCKMEISTER]

if I read the Knox News Sentinel website correctly old Phil was a no show at the ribbon cutting ceremony.

And to add, I dunno, but I would think if he vetos anything he has to do it personally, can't have his secretary rubber stamp it for him.

i'd say he's on the way to Germany about now.

[Guest HexHead]

i'd say he's on the way to Germany about now.

It would be amazing if these last few days have been much ado about nothing.

[Guest theoldguy]

Just received this in the email from the tfa alert. Hope its true!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tennessee Firearms Association, Inc.

Legislative Action Committee

We have not seen the document yet, but we are receiving reports that the Governor has signed the HB0716, the parks bill. It is reported that he will likely encourage ALL local governments to opt-out. Clearly, doing so and them following through with it will lay the foundation for efforts next year to repeal that portion of the law in order to open all local parks state wide under the exercise of state pre-emption.

We have no word at this time regarding the status of other firearms bills that have been sent to the governor.

The result is that the fight for firearms rights now becomes a local issue. Nashville, for example, as the proposed bill to close Davidson County parks already on the calendar for Tuesday, June 16. We will need to be preparing to fight these battles in local legislative bodies statewide.

[cadillacdude1975]

yes, he signed both the parks bill and the long guns bill.

State Park bill here Tennessee General Assembly Legislation

Long Bun bill here Tennessee General Assembly Legislation

from what i read, the State Parks bill took effect the minute he signed, and the long gun bill takes effect July 1, 2009.

Edited June 12, 2009 by cadillacdude1975

[Guest SUNTZU]

Cadillacdude, great news with the number of the beast post.

[Tnscooter63]

Just received this in the email from the tfa alert. Hope its true!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tennessee Firearms Association, Inc.

Legislative Action Committee

We have not seen the document yet, but we are receiving reports that the Governor has signed the HB0716, the parks bill. It is reported that he will likely encourage ALL local governments to opt-out. Clearly, doing so and them following through with it will lay the foundation for efforts next year to repeal that portion of the law in order to open all local parks state wide under the exercise of state pre-emption.

We have no word at this time regarding the status of other firearms bills that have been sent to the governor.

The result is that the fight for firearms rights now becomes a local issue. Nashville, for example, as the proposed bill to close Davidson County parks already on the calendar for Tuesday, June 16. We will need to be preparing to fight these battles in local legislative bodies statewide.

Hope this is true also, this has been frustrating. Nothing will stop memfrica from banning parks but I like the state parks east of them...

Edited June 12, 2009 by Tnscooter63

[Guest benchpresspower]

sooo local parks are included? We're having a family bbq at the park next to our local library just wondering if it will be legal now to carry.

[Guest go-vols]

according to the DNJ:

"A proposal to allow handguns to be carried in city or county parks in Tennessee has been signed by the governor. Democratic Gov. Phil Bredesen signed the measure Friday and it will take effect Sept. 1."

[cadillacdude1975]

sept 1st? i didnt see a date in the bill. long guns is stated 7-1-09

the last line of the park bill is "This act shall take effect upon becoming a law, the public welfare requiring

it."

the last line of the long guns says "This act shall take effect July 1, 2009, the public welfare requiring it."

why cant everything be laid out in black and white?

Edited June 12, 2009 by cadillacdude1975

[Guest go-vols]

Dnj - Guns in parks proposal signed by governor

[Guest redbarron06]

OK so we got parks signed. Has anybody heard about long arms in cars yet?

[Guest HexHead]

OMFG.... From the Tennessean.

Governor signs guns-in-parks bill

PUBLISHED BY CHAS SISK ON JUNE 12, 2009 IN POLITICS.

Updated 6:22 p.m.:

Gov. Phil Bredesen signed the guns-in-parks bill Friday, after a deal to exempt local parks broke down.

In a brief letter to House Speaker Kent Williams, Bredesen encouraged local governments to take advantage of a provision that lets them keep guns out of specific parks.

Separately, the governor told Williams that he intends to let the Tennessee Firearms Freedom Act to become law without his signature. That act says that the federal government has no right to regulate guns that are made in Tennessee and never cross state lines.

“This bill is not about firearms,” Bredesen wrote. “It represents a fringe constitutional theory that I believe will be quickly dispensed with by the federal courts.”

Update: Bredesen kept his signing pen busy as he boarded the plane for his weeklong trip to Europe to sell the state’s solar initiatives.

The governor also signed legislation that forbids handgun safety course instructors from requiring a Social Security number to take training and a bill clarifying that you don’t need a carry permit to keep your shotgun or rifle and ammunition in the same part of your vehicle.

Edited June 13, 2009 by HexHead

[JayC]

sept 1st? i didnt see a date in the bill. long guns is stated 7-1-09

the last line of the park bill is "This act shall take effect upon becoming a law, the public welfare requiring

it."

the last line of the long guns says "This act shall take effect July 1, 2009, the public welfare requiring it."

why cant everything be laid out in black and white?

Parks Bill -

State/National 'parks' are opening right as of today.

Cities and Counties can start to pass resolutions blocking local parks from carry starting today.

Local Parks which aren't subject to one of the above resolutions will be open to carry Sept 1st.

Long Guns -

Is law today, you can start to carry long guns tonight legally.

Senate amendment #3:

SECTION 1. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-17-1307, is amended by adding the following new subsection (e):

(e) It is an exception to the application of this section that a person authorized to carry a handgun pursuant to § 39-17-1351, is transporting a rifle or shotgun in or on a privately-owned motor vehicle, and the rifle or shotgun does not have ammunition in the chamber. However, such a person does not violate this section by inserting ammunition into the chamber if the ammunition is inserted for purposes of justifiable self-defense pursuant to §§ 39-11-611 or 39-11-612.

SECTION 2. This act shall take effect upon becoming a law, the public welfare requiring it.

Good news!

[GLOCKMEISTER]

YAHOOOO....

I logged on to share the good news... Ya beat me to it...

Now we start the fight against locals like metro.

[GLOCKMEISTER]

btw... just so you know, I was told someone decided to play hardball with the Gov.

[GLOCKMEISTER]

Ya, all need to thank John Harris.... he's been up there all day long. Btw, this week of lobbying for our cause had probably cost his personal practice thousands!