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JayC

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JayC last won the day on November 29 2016

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  1. I disagree, Harwell would have a lot harder of a time holding back 2nd amendment laws that could be used to win political capital forcing the governor to veto the bill, and the legislature over riding the veto. But you're right, getting rid of Harwell needs to be the goal, and depending on who gets elected as Governor the next time around she may well fall out of favor.
  2. Or elect a democratic governor, so the republican legislature can use 2nd amendment laws as a wedge issues.
  3. What DA is going to want to go to bat on a death ruled justified by the county coroner? Can you imagine the field day a defense attorney would have? Unless there was something very strange going on I think that would pretty much guarantee reasonable doubt.
  4. IANAL, but to echo what David said, but since they don't define residence requirements in the carry law, it most likely means the requirements under their voting law/drivers license law. I'm pretty sure as a full time student she's not required to become an AL resident, although it might not be a 'bad' idea if it reduces her in state tuition, getting a permit in AL is much easier than getting a permit in TN. So if it's advantageous to become an AL resident, getting an AL permit would be the last of my worries.
  5. Or maybe, don't let your 6 year old browse the internet without supervision. I have a 5 year old daughter, and I'd never consider allowing her to use the Internet without direct supervision. Everything she uses is screened by her mother or I, and only then is she given access to it.
  6. I don't think that is true.. If you found a republican with a name starting with a letter before H, and made some stink about her anti-gun record and desire to increase taxes, she'd probably loose. Then who cares if we hold the seat in the general or not.
  7. IANAL, but under TN state law, unless it's YOUR home and curtilage, it's still illegal to carry a firearm, concealed or openly. The chances you'll get arrested are slim and none, but if something goes wrong why risk the extra charge being added on? Curtilage generally means the house, porch, fenced in yard, and any outbuildings meant for human use.
  8. Yeah something is not right about this picture at all...
  9. Two things, the TFA poisoned the well with the current legislature, by pushing to create a 'protected' class of employee. Second, all we need to do to fix the current log jam, is have somebody primary Beth Harwell and then loose to a democrat in the general election. Problem solved.
  10. IANAL, carrying on private land even with the owners permission is generally considered illegal, there are a number of exceptions but without more information it's impossible to say if any of them would apply. But, asking a bunch of people to show up armed some of which are LEO's seems odd. Are you training, protecting livestock, or otherwise involved in a sporting purpose? Because those would be your best bet for legally being armed. At work is another story, there is a provision in the law to carry at your 'place of business', without a permit, this was used by businesses to allow their employees to be armed back before the HCP law, without knowing more details it's likely you qualify under that provision of the law but it's limited to your 'place of business'. Why not just go get a permit and be done with it?
  11. I'm not suggesting that any sane DA would go to bat on any of those cases, but without a doubt the way the law is currently written, carrying a firearm would be a violation of the law. I've been complaining to my state Senator for 5 or 6 years about the need to fix this law, because of having a business in close proximity to a large private university. If we look at previous AG opinions on similar matters involving school activities at public parks, those opinions appear to be wide in scope and clearly would include a sports team spending the night in a hotel, or a restaurant where the school bus stopped for lunch on the way back from a field trip. One example used was a park was a no carry zone because students where allowed to eat lunch in the park on nice days, and during those times the park was considered 'in use' by the school. The law is very poorly written, just about any change would make it a marked improvement.
  12. State law only allows for firearms to be used for instructional and ceremonial purposes but, I'm splitting hairs, I'm sure some 'competitive' shooting could be instructional in nature and might be covered. The instructional exception to the law is meant to allow Hunter Safety course (the shooting part) to be allow in school, it's my understanding that is the legislative intent.
  13. Doesn't matter according to state law as currently written any land in use by a school, or college (public or private) is off limits to regular firearms use. There are only 4 exceptions that your average person would fall into: 1. You have an HCP and leave the handgun in your vehicle when visiting the event. 2. You have an HCP and are dropping off/picking up a student and stay in the vehicle while in possession of the firearm. 3. You are handling the firearm for the purpose of sanctioned event instruction students on it's use (ie the Hunter Safety exception) 4. You're handling the firearm as part of a school sanctioned ceremony (ie the color guard exception) 5. You're a member of JROTC/shooting team then you're allowed to handle firearms are part of your class/team duties. While there are lots of other exceptions, most are for law enforcement, special school security guards, and other authorized employees. Long and short, school sanctioned event, including stopping to eat lunch, or having a birthday party at a local restaurant (with only adult teachers present) are roving felony zones under current state law.
  14. IANAL, but the plain reading of the law clearly makes it illegal to have and use a firearm on the property while a school event is being conducted. As you said 39-17-1309b1 clearly includes any land in use by the board of education, school, or college: Not knowing the exact make up of the event's students, this is the only exception that would seem to apply in anyway shape or form (other than the general law enforcement performing their official duties). 39-17-1309e5: The adults providing instructions to the students are probably safe, the students themselves are safe, anybody else carrying or using a loaded firearm is at risk under the current wording of the law. As currently written there are roving no gun zones that no reasonable person could know about, and it's worded in such a way that not just activities by teenage aged students that cause these zones, official college club activities, and employee birthday lunches at a restaurant could in theory be counted as well. Now, the chances a DA goes to bat on any of this? Slim to none, but I wouldn't want to be the test case.
  15. It was my turn, you've caught a couple of mistakes... Truth is we probably know state firearm laws better than 90% of attorneys in TN

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