The Resistance is beginning...

[Randall53]

I agree, but how many of us are willing to do that? These laws being passed around the country are really the nut up or shut up moment. If there is a widespread lack of compliance you would see an end to all this silliness, but I just don't think the gun owning crowd wants a criminal record. They got us by the short hairs and we're only left with two options, in my opinion. The option of voting these loonies out isn't an option any more. The majority no longer believe in the principles of the 2nd Amendment.

 

Well.....I'd like to think we all would. I'd like to think that the fact so many of our military, all volunteers now consisting of many members here, are currently or have put their lives on the line in foreign countries to protect our freedoms.  Many have died in defense of these very freedoms the Left, which includes those that vote for a living,  wants to take from us. If we can send our young sons and daughters to fight for our freedoms (mine just got back from deployment) then we should be willing to not comply with their laws IN MASS and suffer the consequences if the non-compliance fails.  I do realize it's easy to sit here and say that....quite another matter when your door is beat down by swat teams to take your guns.  I hope we can win without this, but New York, I think, is going to be the first test.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I think the point is that if a majority of voters in a majority of the states are going to continue to put into office, those who look at the Constitution with contempt, hatred, just don't care or are outright socialists then that "majority" will prevent the rest of us from moving the country back to its roots as a republic.

And yeah, not only will those "low information voters" be the first to starve to death when their Obamaphone can't get a connection to the foodstamp office they'll also be the first to march in the streets, terrorize others and try to take by force (of numbers if not with guns) from the prepared whatever the prepared have.

 

 

I'm saddened that they will most likely do that, but I am not fearful. I can't help it, nor can you. If faced

with death, I'll go out swinging, thanks. What makes me fearful is that good people will do nothing but

roll over and die.

That's what uncivilized spoiled wards of the state do, Robert. I don't know if I have any control over that,

any more than you, but I do have a say in what I'm prepared to protect, don't I? It all ties in to that money

supply running out, that government teat, those military and civilian retirees who were given promises

that were not kept, and so many more things you and I could chronicle.

 

The only real difference between this president and the alternative, at this point, is this one is taking us

down the path a bit quicker. Most of those people who have the attitude about the Constitution that it is an

outdated document have never read it, but are repeating something someone told them to say.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

You can't make a point about the purpose and legitimacy of the Constitution to a crowd of folks who don't believe in the document in the first place. I'm beginning to believe that the majority view the Constitution as an obsolete document that should be rewritten. I've heard a person argue against its legitimacy based on the fact that some of the framers had slaves. This is the kind of hopeless dumbassery we're up against.

They only don't believe in it because they have never been forced to accept life as anything more than an

abstract. They have no strong feelings in anything if you really get into questioning. They haven't grown up

enough to learn what life means. If you put that on some scale like Maslow's Hierarchy, it wouldn't get off the

bottom rung.

 

Our society has an underpinning of, including college graduates, idiots that were made into sheep from just

outside the womb, and, hey, they don't even respect that. How can you expect the masses to believe in the

Constitution when they don't even believe in themselves.

Edited February 28, 2013 by 6.8 AR

[maroonandwhite]

They only don't believe in it because they have never been forced to accept life as anything more than an

abstract. They have no strong feelings in anything if you really get into questioning. They haven't grown up

enough to learn what life means. If you put that on some scale like Maslow's Hierarchy, it wouldn't get off the

bottom rung.

 

Our society has an underpinning of, including college graduates, idiots that were made into sheep from just

outside the womb, and, hey, they don't even respect that. How can you expect the masses to believe in the

Constitution when they don't even believe in themselves.

Too true. I know many folks that are "just getting by". Not money wise but life wise. No values, hopes, dreams, goals, etc.

[TMF]

Well.....I'd like to think we all would. I'd like to think that the fact so many of our military, all volunteers now consisting of many members here, are currently or have put their lives on the line in foreign countries to protect our freedoms.  Many have died in defense of these very freedoms the Left, which includes those that vote for a living,  wants to take from us. If we can send our young sons and daughters to fight for our freedoms (mine just got back from deployment) then we should be willing to not comply with their laws IN MASS and suffer the consequences if the non-compliance fails.  I do realize it's easy to sit here and say that....quite another matter when your door is beat down by swat teams to take your guns.  I hope we can win without this, but New York, I think, is going to be the first test.

Yeah, I'd like to believe we'd all stand together too, but then I consider the contrast between the consequences of dying or being severely wounded in combat versus becoming a criminal and not being able so support my family. At least when I was in combat I knew if I were killed my wife and kids would be covered by my life insurance and a monthly check, but getting rolled up with a felony record where I would have no hope of supporting them is a different story.

I have no problem risking my own butt for the greater good, but when it's at the expense of my family it's a different story. Just a very crappy situation that is going to develop for us and there aren't any good choices.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

We are being forced into making choices that we would have made a long time ago, if we weren't so complacent.

Kind gives a different meaning to "expediency of the moment". Because it isn't about expediency.

[Randall53]

Yeah, I'd like to believe we'd all stand together too, but then I consider the contrast between the consequences of dying or being severely wounded in combat versus becoming a criminal and not being able so support my family. At least when I was in combat I knew if I were killed my wife and kids would be covered by my life insurance and a monthly check, but getting rolled up with a felony record where I would have no hope of supporting them is a different story.

I have no problem risking my own butt for the greater good, but when it's at the expense of my family it's a different story. Just a very crappy situation that is going to develop for us and there aren't any good choices.

I understand completely. that's what i was taking about at the end of the post. II'm not really talking about shootouts nor about making our streets a war zone, but rather non compliance en-mass. 30 million gun owners that says nope...not gonna do it. What would they do then?

[RichardR]

I understand completely. that's what i was taking about at the end of the post. II'm not really talking about shootouts nor about making our streets a war zone, but rather non compliance en-mass. 30 million gun owners that says nope...not gonna do it. What would they do then?

Same thing that always happens, arrest, charge, conviction, incarceration, doesn't matter to them, they aren't the ones who will be effected.

[Guest ThePunisher]

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Just a very crappy situation that is going to develop for us and there aren't any good choices.[/quote]

I believe the revolutionary patriots probably had the same sentiments, but they realized freedom was paramount in living their lives than living as slaves to tyranny. Either way they chose, they knew there was going to be sacrifices to be made. They chose freedom over tyranny, and we see what freedom has meant to the USA, and its people over the course of our republic.

Our free country will not stand much longer if we continue down the road of tyranny that our present leaders in the WH and Congress are leading us. I'm afraid that everyone in our country will be making sacrifices before long, whether those sacrifices will be for the betterment of our country or not, only time will tell.

[Randall53]

I believe the revolutionary patriots probably had the same sentiments, but they realized freedom was paramount in living their lives than living as slaves to tyranny. Either way they chose, they knew there was going to be sacrifices to be made. They chose freedom over tyranny, and we see what freedom has meant to the USA, and its people over the course of our republic.

Our free country will not stand much longer if we continue down the road of tyranny that our present leaders in the WH and Congress are leading us. I'm afraid that everyone in our country will be making sacrifices before long, whether those sacrifices will be for the betterment of our country or not, only time will tell.

Amen......

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Something good will come of all this. Total death of liberalism. I would love to live to see it.

[Randall53]

The only real difference between this president and the alternative, at this point, is this one is taking us
down the path a bit quicker.

Yep. And i think history will show he was groomed for that exact purpose.

[mikegideon]

Something good will come of all this. Total death of liberalism. I would love to live to see it.

 

They are crapping in their own Wheaties right now.

[Guest ThePunisher]

They are crapping in their own Wheaties right now.

I don't believe these commies ever ate Wheaties. Wheaties represented heroes that had work ethics to achieve their accomplishments. Edited March 1, 2013 by ThePunisher

[Randall53]

Something good will come of all this. Total death of liberalism. I would love to live to see it.

That makes two of us Bro!!! I'd dance in the streets and that would be one FUGGLY sight....LOL

[Randall53]

Oops...double post. Sbt... Edited February 28, 2013 by Randall53

[Guest 556or762]

More importantly you can't lock up or kill 9 million people...  You have to deal with them, it would force at the very least a political agreement to end the insurgency.  IE look at Afghanistan and Iraq where the 'insurgents' were given seats of power in the government.

 

Even 1% of the population would be 3.15 million which would out number all of our armed government agents, assuming some chunk of the military and the people who provide logistics to the military don't go with the insurgency, and then you have the people who don't want any part of this fight that get up and just go home...  The Federal Government would have a hard time putting together 1 million man army against any insurgency. 

Have you ever heard of a little thing called WWII, there was this holocaust back then and I believe that is exactly what happened they killed millions of people that they deemed a threat to the fatherland.

[maroonandwhite]

Have you ever heard of a little thing called WWII, there was this holocaust back then and I believe that is exactly what happened they killed millions of people that they deemed a threat to the fatherland.

those were disarmed people though weren't they?

[Guest 556or762]

those were disarmed people though weren't they?

my point exactly., gun control, then what, who is unfit for this administration? Free thinkers, those loyal to the constitution, those that type anti Govt messages in blogs and forums on the internet?  think about it, youll get it.  If anyone here thinks they will come for 9 million people you are wrong if it ever happened they would round people up a few at a time with overwhelming force not unlike overseas in "the war on terror" its been done before and with the new laws and EO's in the last few years it is legal they just name you a terrorist threat and put you away without charging you and if anyone wants to know where you are they are conspiritors. It sucks but if you read some of the crap that has been enacted in the name of homeland security it pretty much allows the DHS or other govt official to just point and say that guy hes dangerous and your gone.

[zapfbroad]

between 7k-10k apparently showed up in Albany...

overhead still shot: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=169514809864052&set=a.148177891997744.34524.148177061997827&type=1

video of protest: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4523944144724

[TMF]

Those folks in New York should do a "million mag march" as soon as that law goes into effect. A crowd of 10K people, each holding a scary 30 rd AR mag could not be taken by law enforcement, and it would send a very, very strong message to the rest of the country.

[mikegideon]

That's not 7000 people. I've been involved in outdoor events most of my adult life.

Edited March 1, 2013 by mikegideon

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Have you ever heard of a little thing called WWII, there was this holocaust back then and I believe that is exactly what happened they killed millions of people that they deemed a threat to the fatherland.

Yeh, I've heard of it, also, and we have a potential Hitler in our midst. He is doing a lot of similar things. Besides the Jews, gyspies and homosexuals who were victims of the holocaust, how do you think he will successfully round up those millions and gas them this time? The people who will be victimized this time, if it were to happen, will be his own supporters, and others who he would like to get rid of, and he does want that, will rise up against him. The same people who voted him in. Our government will implode while trying to force us into submission.

 

There are enough sane Jews, this time around, and there are enough of us plain old Americans to meet the need if some holocaust event ever tried to occur again. His Obamacare will be his holocaust. Wait and see. When they print enough money to pay for it and the "death panel" denies enough people health care, his "version 2" will cause enough economic trouble for other things to kill our country.

 

It won't be peaceful and all he will have done is make oversized targets of his liberal communists. Of course, there might not be a country left, either. It will cost a lot of good lives, but there won't be room for any more liberals for a long time.

 

I guarantee if enough people realize they still have a spine, the only holocaust will be an extinction of liberals, because they are cowards.

Edited March 1, 2013 by 6.8 AR

[zapfbroad]

That's not 7000 people. I've been involved in outdoor events most of my adult life.

I wouldn't dispute your assessment, that's just what was (optimistically) noted in the reports. I dislike crowds too much to have the experience to judge otherwise haha

[Randall53]

Yeh, I've heard of it, also, and we have a potential Hitler in our midst. He is doing a lot of similar things. Besides the Jews, gyspies and homosexuals who were victims of the holocaust, how do you think he will successfully round up those millions and gas them this time?

 

The enemies this time are freedom lovers, people with guns, people with jobs.