Marswolf

Mike, I perceive a continuing hostility from you in meeting in Kingsport, even if Mark or Tower are home. Am I wrong?

Until Jimmy Naifeh is replaced as Speaker, nothing will get done. People living in districts with Democrat Representatives need to work to replace them with Reps who will vote to get rid of Naifeh and replace him with someone who respects the right to protect yourself any your family.

I know that a lot of the bulk box stuff didn't cycle the rifle properly. But I only know of a couple of people who had them.

We have another topic on this somewhere. Basically the new law says there is a presumption of their intent to kill or seriously harm you if they break in while you are home and not committing other crimes (like drug sales, for example), so there is now a presumption that you have a right to use deadly force to protect yourself. This was not the presumption before.

Castle Doctrine. If they break in, you get to shoot them.

I have to agree. Some of the best teachers I ever learned from had been in the action, but not for a while. They were able to explain why some things had to be done in a particular way. Just calmly explain. There are lots of folks out there who can do (or think they can do) stuff, but not too many are really good teachers.

I think that is the secret of good shooting for these rifles, from everything I've ever heard.

Plus, our UPS hub is in Virginia. Extra complications....

But that is pretty much what the new law is intended to do.

First time I have read the BOT http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot23.htm pages on Extreme Shock rounds. Pretty good overview and it confirms my experience. As far as expansion of the rounds, they are designed for certain conditions. Specifically expansion in body tissue. Dry phone books is probably not a fair test. I've seen a 9mm Hydra-Shok go through an oak chair bottom without expanding. The penetration was obviously good, since it went through about an inch of wood, but that wood also prevented normal expansion that would have occurred in soft tissue.

While I hate to break the idea of alternating Kingsport/OR events, I think asking Sue to host the event with both Mark and Tower gone is a real imposition on her. I suggest we take Phantom's generous offer for this month and find some alternate sites in the Tri-Cities to get back to shoots up here as soon as possible.

Damn guy, Happy holidays, Tell us more where bout where you're are. I probably have a lot more friend there.

And a merry Christmas to one and all.

Gee, I know VC, who are friends now, who could do that for 2.9 cents,

A surprising and interesting response from you. Gladiators are an interesting group.. You may deserve more consideration than I thought. Nahhhhhh..... More times than I wish to think about. Guys should be in situations to avoid that in their 20s.

Hey Len, isn't your support of the dems part of the problem rather than the solution? Yes, I know the Repubs are a major problem, but honestly , less so than the Dems. Honestly......

Interesting thing is these folks think they are becoming part of an inside group by using this language. Sad thing is they are becoming a part of the group - a group of losers. The smart ones grow up and learn to play the game.

Maybe we should all plant Victory Gardens next spring. The could be for victory over illegal immigration. I can grow my own tomatoes, thank you very much.

Fuh-leas On My Dog Fuh-leas on my dog Fuh-leas on my dog There's fuh-leas on my dog He's itchin', scratchin' Fleas on my dog Fuh-leas on my dog Fuh-leas on my dog There's fuh-leas on my dog He's itchin', scratchin' Fleas on my dog I guess he's gonna be itchin' this Christmas He's gonna be busy scratchin' this Christmas But that won't stop me blaming him this Christmas My poor doggie, for my farts I guess he's gonna be itchin' this Christmas He's gonna be busy scratchin' this Christmas But that won't stop me blaming him this Christmas My poor doggie, for my farts Police nabbed my dog Police nabbed my dog The police nabbed my dog He was unleashed Police nabbed my dog Police nabbed my dog Police nabbed my dog The police nabbed my dog He was unleashed Police nabbed my dog They nabbed his little doggie ass this Christmas And now they're gonna have him gassed this Christmas Unless I come up with the cash this Christmas Spring my doggie from the pound They nabbed his little doggie ass this Christmas And now they're gonna have him gassed this Christmas Unless I come up with the cash this Christmas Spring my doggie from the pound Puh-lease help my dog Puh-lease help my dog Won't you please help my dog Spent all my cash So please help my dog Puh-lease help my dog Puh-lease help my dog Won't you please help my dog Spent all my cash So please help my dog Now you could help a little bit this Christmas Don't be a greedy little s*** this Christmas You know I'm never gonna quit this Christmas Til my doggie's safe at home Now you could help a little bit this Christmas Don't be a greedy little s*** this Christmas You know I'm never gonna quit this Christmas Til my doggie's safe at home Were fleas on my dog Then police nabbed my dog I said please help my dog And you came through So thanks from my dog

It did cross my mind....

Boy, this is a really stupid idea.

I don't mind a place posting that loaded handguns must remain holstered. I do object to them posting that loaded handguns are not permitted.

A very Merry Christmas to everyone. Especially to you Rabbi!

Want to know where Santa is? Again this year, NORAD is keeping its eye on the jolly old guy and will let you know where he is located every five minutes. http://www.noradsanta.org/ [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfvGU4W0bvM[/ame]

They are decent "safety" rounds if you live in an apartment or something. Personally, I want a round with good penetration. I talked to the owner of the company who makes these. They sell them on hype as if they are super-killer rounds. At the time, I was head of a military society and he was going to send me some rounds to test. When he found out part of my testing was ballistic gelatin testing, he withdrew his offer. See http://www.extremeshockusa.com/ for the P.T. Barnum sales job. For 380 ACP, I like Hydra-Shoks and FMJs.