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I have not seen evidence confirming this on the current design in any testing, and I've been looking - very actively. This was absolutely true of the original commercial design with the "adverse trigger." There have been multiple reports, now, claiming to damningly confirm "it goes off on its own!" I carefully review every one I find with an open mind. In every case, they seem to be conducted and consumed by people lacking critical thinking skills - including the flawed initial FBI report (the FBI admitted to flawed testing and released a subsequent report). Every single test resulting in "repeatable" uncommanded discharges involved sticking something in front of the trigger, to move the trigger rearward, prior do doing some manipulation or other to the weapon to induce a discharge. Please, fellow gunners and instructors, who will be the first to raise their hand and die on the hill of, "Yes, I tell my shooters that if they press the trigger to the rear and the gun goes off, well, that's the gun's fault."
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for-sale Sig Sauer P320 AXG Legion
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for-sale Taurus Raging Hunter .460 Magnum
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Factually incorrect: DHS/ICE just extended the P320 contract for another two years. Also, the report linked above does not tell the whole story, here. Any inclusion of this report should also mention that the testing informing this report was done with three critical problems in its methodology: 1) using a screw to pre-load the trigger, pressing it to the rear 2) cutting a window in the backplate of the FCM, destabilizing the sear springs and allowing them to become unseated under recoil. 3) using a punch to press the sear down, defeating not only the primary sear but also the secondary sear, while simultaneously pulling the trigger bar (thus, trigger) past the break point, essentially resulting in a commanded discharge through a trigger press (via the sear). The FBI admits to these shortcomings, and immediately re-tested correcting these flawed conditions. The subsequent report, just released, resulted in ZERO uncommanded discharges. Last point: Even the case in point is in question. The holstered pistol in this report arrived with a specific recent scratch inside the trigger guard. The officer was holding keys in his right hand at the time of the AD. The FBI lab used a key to reach into his holster and successfully pulled the trigger, discharging the firearm. Afterwards, they found a new scratch matching the preexisting scratch, in the same location within the trigger guard. While not a definitive conclusion, it certainly takes away from the notion that this report proved P320's go off on their own. Postscript point: Sig's corporate response to their initial trigger flaws, denial and obfuscation to the initial (and ongoing) real ADs resulting from their "adverse trigger," failure to issue a recall in favor of a "voluntary upgrade," ongoing marketing and customer service arrogance, and general asshattery are legend. I think these factors give anyone inclined an absolutely legitimate reason to swear off their products just on principle. However, I think it is misguided to confuse a choice based on principle with the idea that there is damning proof that the current design is flawed. By the numbers, many more people have been shot with their own Glock that "went off by itself" - but didn't.
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Well, at that ain't staged, I don't know what is. She's standing there with her bedroom shoes on and he's got the gun almost in her face.
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for-sale Reloaders Special – Lot of 1960s 8mm Czech (or Bulgy)
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for-sale CCI 22lr 300 round boxes $25 per box
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for-sale 22 Mag CCI Maxi Mag ammo 200 round boxes $45 each
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sale-or-trade Star Super B - 9mm Spanish “1911” - Nashville
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Rasputin started following Star Super B - 9mm Spanish “1911” - Nashville
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$400 OBO or trade - details at bottom Picked up at auction in Mt Juliet, so I do not know the history of this gun. I have fired a box of Fiocchi 124gr FMJ down the barrel with no issues and found the 5 inch barrel to be very accurate. Comes with 1 original magazine (forgot to add a pic). I replaced the safety spring and detent. All numbers matching. Spanish Law requires proof markings, so according to proof marks this was manufactured around 1972. Though it resembles a 1911, this 9-round pistol has some significant differences. The trigger pivots rather than pulls straight back, and there is no grip safety. Takedown is very simple, with a rotating lever. It has a magazine safety/disconnect which can be easily removed. Many of these were manufactured in 9mm Largo - this is one of the models in regular 9mm, which makes it much more affordable to shoot. Factory magazines and parts are readily available online. The finish has some wear and there are some marks and scratches that I tried to show in the pictures, more pictures available on request. Meet in Davidson County (may travel for a member). Must be a TN resident and 21 years of age. Must show a TN driver’s license, FFL, or HCP. C&R eligible. Cash is king but will consider a trade +\- cash for something interesting (in good working order). No black powder, no Sig P320s sorry. Otherwise what you got? I like weird guns. Would also take 9mm or 5.56 ammo. Thanks for looking.
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ConduitV started following WTB | My “Looking For” List
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Bump for P938 Legion
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jeff43 started following Triggertech AR15 duty trigger, 3.5lbs as new $50 SOLD
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ad closed Triggertech AR15 duty trigger, 3.5lbs as new $50 SOLD
jeff43 replied to juliangunney's topic in Gear Classifieds
I’ll take it.