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I think we might be missing something here.  I am pretty sure you can display and wield your weapon to stop a thief.  I just renewed my security license and that question came up.   Answer: yes, you may draw down on a thief to prevent theft or fleeing.  Can you shoot him if he does not comply?  No, unless he attempts to over power or come at you.  Then you are covered by the self defense law.  When the thief decides to up the activity from thieving to assault it changes the whole dynamic.   The instructor used a real life scenario such as this.  Thief was breaking into a man's work truck at night.  He confronts thief, with gun out, who appears to be complying but suddenly charges the owner of the truck.  Owner shot him right as his body fell on top of the owner.   The cops showed up and assessed the scenario and asked the owner why it took him so long to shot the thief.  He was already committing a crime, so he showed intent to do criminal harm and once he started charging the owner he upped the game to the next level.  Cops told him he was lucky because the charging thief could have had a knife.  Cops said owner was in reasonable fear for his life, and he was right to shoot.   I agree that you can't shoot a guy with a TV in his hands, but you can use your weapon as a deterrent when a crime is being committed.  If he runs away, let him go.  If he changes from thief to assailant, shot him.   Kidnapping came up also.  You may use deadly force to prevent a kidnapping, regardless if the kidnapper has a weapon or not.

So, let me get this straight.   He got online, told a guy who had something for sale he would buy it.  They met up, he told the guy he wasn't a felon, the seller had no reasonable suspicion this guy was a felon, he purchased the weapon legally and is now whining about it?   Talk about making a sh!t show out of nothing.  Typical antigun retard.

  He also walked back and forth to town, by himself all the time.  The feds, cops, ATF, sheriff and the locals all knew this.  They could have picked him up ANYTIME they wanted too.  He was not hiding.   They wanted to make an example of him and his compound.  Period.  It really is that simple.

I know the post office makes mistakes, every one of the 450,000 employees are in fact human.  But...   Thought for the arm chairs out there.   Last year, the post office moved well over 216 billion pieces of mail (including packages) to and from different locations from all over the country and world.  That breaks down to 24.6 million pieces of something being moved, stored, loaded, scanned, lifted or touched every hour of the day, all day, all year long.  Then, you factor in the contractors that are also in the loop but not postal employees directly that don't care two squats about the mail and you tend to get chaos that is hard to control.   Believe this, if you think a private company would be any different and do a better job, for the same price, all I have to say is think Walmart.   So, I task anyone of you that have a serious problem to either file a formal complaint which will be followed up on very seriously OR take the time and restructure the whole process and sell it to Congress and make it work perfectly so nothing ever again goes wrong or comes up missing.   *** I am not defending employees that are blatantly doing the wrong thing like throwing away mail or leaving packages in the weeds, etc.  Those people need to have a complaint filed against them through USPS.com and it will be takin seriously because that comes through DC headquarters to the postmaster and they have to handle the situation or he/she gets the hot seat.

All injury deaths Number of deaths: 192,945 Deaths per 100,000 population: 60.2 All poisoning deaths Number of deaths: 48,545 Deaths per 100,000 population: 15.4 Motor vehicle traffic deaths Number of deaths: 33,804 Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.7 All firearm deaths Number of deaths: 33,636 Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.6 http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm   Copied straight from the CDC website.  So, why are doctors not more concerned about poisoning injuries or deaths?  They don't worry about bleach and toilet bowl cleaner anymore.  Remember the Mr. Yuck stickers school use to hand out?   When's the last time you saw a commercial about poisoning deaths? Even though it beats gun deaths every single year.

They are there. In the training forum. http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/88641-tactical-response-aar/#entry1277923 http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/83826-for-my-tactical-response-guys/#entry1215997   http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/54143-tactical-response-hrcc-cqb-2012/#entry833847   And many more....

Have taken fighting pistol twice at Tactical Response in Camden.   Each time was exceptional.  Jay Gibson was instructor each time.  He is outstanding.  Yeager rarely teaches the classes himself.  He has tons of instructors for that.   I will go back again for any one of the classes they offer.   I see it like this.  Regardless of what you think of the man himself, he has very good instructors and provides very good training.  Henry Ford was a communist and loved Hitler but I'll never buy anything but a Ford because the product Ford sells is what I'm looking for.   I'd bet you won't be dissapointed with any three of those you mentioned.  I feel Tactical Response teaches more everyday training that the average Joe would encounter.  Zero appears from his vidoes to be more of a military frame of training but that is who he trains the most of.  Reid is awesome guy but he learned almost all of background from taking classes at Tactical Response.  He actually quit his teaching high school teaching job to be an instructor at Tactical Response before he quit and started his own school.   No matter what, take training from someone, you won't regret it.

  Yep, my long term stuff is in cans.   This was some of my grab and go to the range boxes sitting around.

Long story short.   Ammo stash hidden, water leaked from above too long (card board boxes), ammo below was wet for long time.  Turned green and pink.  Some salvageable which I have soaking in auto trans fluid to steel wool later.  Some not, which I need to dispose of.   Will the trans fluid hurt ammo?   How do I dispose of really corroded stuff?

http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/85253-whats-the-deal-with-tn-firearms-association/?p=1234146   I think they do good stuff.  Been a (non-acting) member for a while.     They are worth 35 bucks a year.  John is a good guy.

  Yes.  Roberts had a huge line to get in compared to the ones with the no guns signs.

  I've heard of the Dover camp myself many times over the last few years.  These camps are the real deal.  A coworker lives in Dover and he says it's there and is what everyone thinks it is, a compound and they are training.   You can Google Earth it if you want to, just saying.

Check box for option number 1.

TFA is very much the real deal.  John Harris is just about on a first name basis with very politician at the state capital.   John Harris and the core group of folks in the TFA are responsible for every gun bill that gets submitted every year.     Guns in bars = TFA; guns in parks = TFA and so on and so on.   Haslam made it a point to be at the TFA meeting when he was campaigning for governor, that is where the video of him on the record saying he would sign Constitutional carry for TN came from.   If I remember correctly, John Harris and the TFA submitted the bill for permit carry in TN.  They have been a driving force in TN gun law for a long time.   Be patient when you send in membership dues.  I believe John and his wife handle everything, including issuing cards.  It takes time and they are EXTREMELY busy folks.     Feel free to come to a meeting on the third Tuesday of every month at the Golden Corral, 315 Old Lebanon Dirt Rd.,Hermitage, not far from Old Hickory exit on I40.

My question is, how did they know?  Was he swinging it around like a purse?     Surely no one could be dumb enough to open carry into a school.   I was just at a high school basketball game last night and by the looks of most of the attendees,   I'd be willing to bet there would be many folks carted off for that if they searched everyone.

    Second this.

"I sent an email to the Music City Center asking if this was the case with them and got this response.......... "Thank you for your inquiry regarding the NRA event. The State of TN 2009 Public Acts, Chapter 428 prohibits the carrying of weapons in Public parks and civic centers. In addition any weapon purchased during the show may not be carried out but has to be shipped. I hope that this will not discourage you from attending as it is a fantastic event and Nashville is a great place to visit.  Thank you, Bill  Bill Facella Director of Event Services  Music City Center"   This is an email that someone had received in response of the question regarding carry at the NRA convention.   Obviously, this Bill that's in charge has no idea what he is talking about.   I've seen this email from multiple people.  This is the music city centers stance, and it is based on the wrong law.  They are trying to lie about the law in order to say we can't carry.     As far as I can see the NRA is not challenging it either.  Surely someone will research this and figure it out.  

"Public Chapter 428 of the 2009 Public Laws of Tennessee amended Tenn. Code Ann. § 39-17-1311 to allow the holders of handgun carry permits to carry firearms in public parks, playgrounds, civic centers and other recreational facilities that are owned by the state, counties or municipalities.  Tenn. Code Ann. §§ 39-17-1309 (b,c) prohibit the possession of firearms in any public or private school building, bus, grounds, campus or athletic field or recreational facility that is owned, used or operated by any school board, school or college."   This paragraph is in this opinion,  under the analysis section.   I guess this is more of a reference to a change in the law in 2009, than an opinion specifically about carry itself in a civic center.

http://www.tn.gov/attorneygeneral/op/2009/op/op129.pdf   Link to the AG opinion about the civic center.  Clearly states we can carry. (Under the analysis section)   Unless they specifically post the entire premise, carry with permit should be good to go.

Updated with the mentioned TCA, sorry.   Also, others from other states have called and talked to the management of the convention center and have received a letter stating that the are not allowing the carrying off weapons at the NRA convention.     My thoughts are, if they don't post it legally, it's open for carry.

Also, the AG issued an opinion that a convention center does not fall under a "civic center" as stated in TCA 39-17-1311.   I'm not sure where to find that opinion,  but I have seen it on another gun site that was discussing this very topic.

They must have posted it recently because Comic-Con was not legally posted last year in the new convention center.   The last two times I've been in there I've seen no signage.  Maybe I found the right door with out it?

  This entire quote scares me.  There is so much wrong here that I'm not even going to pick it apart.   This sounds like a brochure for the communists' party.  Freedom? Who needs it.     This type of mentality is very sad.

I want to order a Benchmade auto and I keep getting crap about federal law and needing to be a special snowflake just to be able to have it shipped.     How do I get an auto adamas?  Without buying it at a storefront?

  Not looking for justification.  I was looking for answers on what would be the best course of action for the senario that unfolded.  You have provided the best explanation thus far.