E4 No More

Well, in the 80's there was a study of police deaths from shootings, and a large percentage, (I think even a majority), were from shots not covered by a vest. Practicing on the head makes perfect sense, but a lot of times you miss under stress. Many trained police officers missed at close range.

Although my Senator is not on the committee, I sent him an email stating my support and goals for this bill.

When I joined my department in 1988 as a part-time officer, I worked for $5.50 per hour. When I was hired full time a year later it was a $24k per year. I didn't become a police officer to get rich. I joined that particular department to get my foot in the door. I could have gone to another department, but the same political/corrupt crap was going on there too.

Funny how just a week or two ago she was saying that they didn't need any new laws, just to enforce the ones that are already on the books.

So agreed.

Daaaaamnnnn!

My point was Naifeh is continuing to be an ass by trying to inflame the general populace by citing political appointees as a basis for his argument; not whether the bill passed or not.

Lawmakers: Gun Talk Overriding Real Issues - Nashville News Story - WSMV Nashville NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- A plan to allow guns to mix with alcohol is gaining steam again. The state House has voted overwhelmingly to allow Tennesseans with carry permits to pack heat in restaurants that serve. But some lawmakers have said this back-and-forth over bullets is overrunning the real issues. "Law-abiding citizens, the gun owners of this state, the people who have permits in this state respect the law," said Rep. Mike Bell of Riceville. The House voted to keep an 11 p.m. curfew, meaning that if a gun holder is still in the restaurant, he or she has to take the gun out. While it wasn't enough to convince everyone this is a good idea, it was enough for 70 votes. "I believe more in my chiefs of police, my sheriffs and my DAs than I do the NRA," said Speaker Emeritus Jimmy Naifeh of Covington. "It's a bill that gives the legitimate gun right owners the chance to be able to carry their weapons into a restaurant and protect them and their family when they come out," Rep. Curry Todd of Collierville said. This is the third floor session in a row where gun laws have dominated the debate. Some lawmakers think that's too much time spent on guns and not enough time on the things that affect all people in Tennessee. "We've passed several gun bills," said Rep. Mike Turner of Old Hickory, "and I don't think there's too many more coming through, but we need to get down to concentrating on things that matter to Tennesseans -- education, jobs, you know, making sure they've got a roof over their heads." The Senate judiciary committee is scheduled to hear testimony on this bill Wednesday. There's talk that the Senate may strip the curfew from the bill, which would have to be approved on the House side. Meanwhile, a House committee will consider bills to allow guns in state and local parks Tuesday. Let's invoke the titles of political appointees to make our point of view seem more valid! Yeah, right!

TGO member Sherman A. House from The Outpost, told me two Sundays ago that four factories actually make the parts, and the the different companies stamp their brand on them. I suggest that you ping Sherman for details.

I've been quiet on this subject until you start talking crap about the military's inability to win wars against "desert rambos...with 30 years old AK47's...." [sic] Our military is constrained from doing what is necessary to win the war whereas our enemy is not. After all, they don't have a bunch of bleeding heart liberals like you putting a choke collar around them like we do. We have the ability to devastate that entire country without the use of a singular nuclear weapon, but we don't use them. Heck! We even have tactical nuclear weapons that wipe off every living thing in the area while preserving the structures - trust me on this one for I used to work on them - yet we don't use them. Winning a war is a matter of will, and with people in this country like you its no wonder we haven't won. That means YOU share in the blame, so you can talk crap about our system, but leave the military out of your Bull-!

Well, we do, but you turn into a chimp apparently. LOL!

Corn-fed in Italy!

Complicated questions require complicated answers. The following is given neither to seek approval nor brag, but to understand the motivation. It is also not intended to be attack on good LEOs. There was a study back in the 80's that cops go through a burn-out cycle every 5-7 years. I lasted 5.5 years in a small suburb of 1,600 resident adjoining Kansas City, Missouri. People become police officers for many reasons. I became one because I like to help people, and it's in my personality to protect. I am the typical sheepdog. My professional conduct was guided by this question: How would I want to be treated if I was in their position? I excelled at the position. I was trained in everything the department would allow me to do during that time, and that included becoming a certified instructor in both RADAR based speed detection devices and DWI detection/enforcement among other things. Since we had two hostage incidents within ten years, I outfitted and trained as a police sniper at my own expense while other officers outfitted and trained as an entry team at their expense. That’s remarkable considering the department paid full time officers $24k per year. I also became a member of The Metro Squad, which was a multi-jurisdictional homicide investigation unit that covered both sides of the state line. I then got burned-out on the job. Although I still loved the actual job of a police officer, I got fed-up with the politics and corruption that came along with it. Here are some examples: 1. I wrote a speeding ticket to a young woman who was a brand new waitress for the mayor at her local restaurant. Before I had turned the ticket in for processing, it was taken out of my ticket book and voided. That required my signature to be forged on the state form used for reporting such things. 2. The same mayor was an alcoholic who drove under the influence, but she was off-limits for enforcement purposes. 3. A lieutenant working the midnight shift was having an affair. The woman’s ex-boyfriend, (who thought the lieutenant was his friend), didn’t want to be an ex-boyfriend. While on duty and in uniform, the lieutenant lured him behind a strip mall, pulled him out of his car, slapped him around, stuck his gun in his face, and then threatened to kill him if he didn’t back off. Among obvious assault charges, that was major violations of his rights since the lieutenant was acting “Under the Color of Law†during the incident. The Chief of Police who was a 25 year friend of the lieutenant refused to do anything about the incident when it was brought to his attention. 4. I saw my judge represent his own client in his own court. 5. I proved to the Chief that a Sergeant was falsifying calibrations of the blood alcohol detection device in the favor of the police department, and the Chief did nothing about it. There were many other things, but I think these examples give you the picture. I tried to be part of the solution and failed. I couldn’t abide being party to the problem, so I changed careers. Don’t think that this kind of thing was isolated to my department either. It goes on all over to one degree or another. I’ve talked to current and former police who report similar experiences. One even bragged about his willingness to lie under oath just to get a conviction, and he was my pastor! If your friends can tolerate the possibility of working in this kind of environment, then they’ll likely be successful. If not, then they should find another career.

With respect, I think you meant to say that you need to have one of two things; not both. It would be silly to require probable cause and consent.

No.

I didn't know whether to laugh or cry!

Yeah, I didn't think of that. It's not much good if it screws up the brass and you're relegated to shooting surplus. Perhaps I should stay with the bolt actions for distance. Thanks.

That's pretty cool. Do you know how well it shoots?

Well, crap!

Unless the law has changed in the 16 years since I was a policeman, you cannot search a vehicle without probable cause or permission. Exercising your right to privacy by not giving permission to search does not constitute probable cause: however, it can expedite your being let free to go on about your business. They can hold you up to 90 minutes while they get a drug dog out there to sniff your car. If the dog hits it's probable cause to search. What most people confuse with a "search" is the police officer's right to check the immediate area for threats to his safety, (weapons). That's why they can frisk you. Those areas are anywhere within lunge or reach of the person stopped. That does not include locked containers such as a glovebox or trunk. Many times the officer finds stuff during this process that constitutes probable cause like a weapon you are concealing illegally, or drugs you failed to stash.

I can't help it. When I was on the PD I shot an officer's MP5, and I've been enamored with the H&K ever since. I have always been better with a rifle than a pistol, so I tend to gravitate to the rifle. I have missed precision shooting since leaving the PD as their sniper, which is why I recently bought the Savage Model 12 in .308. After 16 years my eyesight doesn't correct to 20/20 - let alone the 20/10 it once did - so I don't know how well I'll do, but that doesn't keep me from appreciating quality.

Here I thought that was part of the Assault Weapons Ban which expired. So now I ask, is there an American made knock-off of the MSG-90?

As I have stated before, I have been out of the gun world for over 16 years now, so don't flame me for not knowing this: Why are the H&K rifles such as the PSG-1 and the MSG-90 not available in the U.S. if there is no "Assault Weapons Ban" in place? Educate me, please!

'bout time!

You forgot judges!