Punisher84

I think around 11 Central time.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2518621#.UPW1eG88B8E   Surprise,surprise.

That's cute. I remember wanting attention once.

Done and shared on Facebook. If someone is so apathetic that they can't do something that simple then we've already lost.

I would LOVE to see a refusal to sell parts or mags to New York agencies. I wonder who their suppilers of parts and ammo are?

No it wasn't necessary for me to call him "muppet beard", but it made me laugh so I did it anyway. I'm sorry that wasn't very adult of me to have a sense of humor was it? I see what you're saying and you make valid points in alot of ways, but I'm sorry I simply disagree with what Yeager did. I don't fault them for pulling his permit and I wouldn't fault them if they charged him with some form of making a terroristic threat.   You can use the straw man about those of us here making our lines in the sand and them pulling our permits, but I think that's a crap argument. Cpl. Josh Boston got on TV and said "I will not register my guns". Anything happened to him? Nope, because he didn't threaten to start murdering people. Lines in the sand for passive resistance and a distaste for the current political climate are one thing, but getting on YouTube and saying "I AM GOING TO START KILLING PEOPLE" and "I WILL FIRE THE FIRST SHOT" are not helpful to the majority gun owners who aren't looney tunes and who are trying to get this resolved, not start a firefight. So you go right ahead and stand by him and his 1st amendment rights. I will not, if that makes me your enemy or an enemy of the cause or something than that's cool. I don't want to be lumped in with fringe idealists.

I got what he was most likely trying to infer, but this isn't a thread where we have half of the people saying "I think 10 round mags are ok" and the other half saying "We don't need to budge any more on silly gun control laws". This is a thread where you have people debating over whether one individual (who is not highly thought of 'round here for the most part) should have had his permit pulled over threats he made and whether or not those threats were protected speech. This is not going to create some great divide amongst gun owners that will cause the catastrophic fall of the 2nd Amendment into the hands of "ze germans" or whoever.

Is it dead because we are debating an individual's actions or because we won't pack a sack lunch and go fight the great civil war of 2013 with muppet beard?

You keep talking about this lone permit puller like they have the power of God at their command to zap our permits with a Bond villain laugh and punch of a key. I seriously doubt this was some 9-5 TDOS worker that made this decision. It came from high up, now what you want to do about that I don't know. I'm sure JY and his attorney will address it forthwith, but please, I'm begging you stop saying the same thing over and over about someone LOSING their job.

Fair enough, Jay. I'll just tell you how I view it. If you walked into my workplace and said "If this happens, I'm going to start killing people" you'd be removed quickly and violently if necessary. Just because there isn't a precedent, it doesn't mean there won't be or shouldn't be. I'm fine that they yanked his permit and I'll be fine if they give it back. It's not an anti-Yeager thing for me. It's an anti-being a loudmouth fucktard that posts dumb crap on YouTube in the middle of a 2A national crapfest thing.

How the hell did you pick me out in this? Yeager is a liability. Call my avatar "posturing" or "sentiment" if you will. I don't follow people like Yeager or Alex Jones who are calling for revolution, civil war, and bloodshed. I'm not advocating violence, I'm advocating legislative and passive resistance. I've never made threats to murder people. I've been agreeing with you!

Ok enough of this case citing BS. How about The Smith Act of 1940?   Title I. Subversive activities. The Smith Act set federal criminal penalties that included fines or imprisonment for as long as twenty years and denied all employment by the federal government for five years following a conviction for anyone who: ...with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or...organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof. The Smith Act's prohibition of proselytizing on behalf of revolution repeated language found in previous statutes. It went beyond earlier legislation in outlawing action to "organize any society, group, or assembly" that works toward that end and then extended that prohibition to "membership" or "affiliation"—a term it did not define—with such a group.   He did specifically call for "all you patriots" to pack some sammiches and get ready to fight. He specifically stated intentions to start killing people based on his anger with the government. I think The Smith Act might be a fine place to start legal proceedings, at the very least as grounds for precedent.

  Actually, the AAR basically said he SHOULD have attempted to drive off, and he did, but he screwed up by taking the car out of gear and setting the parking brake. When he freaked and couldn't get the parking brake off, he exited the vehicle, supressed fire for a few seconds, then ran for cover in the ditch. The biggest thing I found in the AAR is they state that he left the cover of the vehicle and retreated to an area where he could not return fire to the enemy. Which means he went and laid down while his guys got shot up and bled out. Despite all that, my biggest issue is the fact that he came home and talked crap about the guys who got killed and basically said their tactics sucked and that's why they died. Even if it's true, that's not something a professional does. Coward? Maybe, maybe not. Arrogant blowhard with an ego the size of Texas? In my opinion, definitely.

lmao Carter, there's a 7 page thread you missed in Newsworthy Reports

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50429293   Well great. It hit MSNBC. Thanks James, you loudmouth dick.

But, let's be fair, Yeager said he was "going to start killing PEOPLE" He never specified what people.

I would say somewhere before posting a video and declaring that you are "going to start killing people". What do you think would happen if you walked into a public place and screamed that? This isn't conspiracy, this isn't an overreach by DOS, this is responding to a threat that was made.

I have zero problems with this legally, ethically, cosmically, whatever-ically.   I posted this on Facebook earlier and I'll say it here, people that are starting to scream for revolution and civil war and shots being fired and packing lunchables to go off and kill people are delusional. We are nowhere even in the ballpark of armed conflict. There is a difference between being active, engaged, and informed, but people on both sides of this issue are slinging crap and cashing checks their mouths can't cash. Yeager is a loudmouth idiot and this has been coming for sometime. I hope he loses his permit, his licenses to teach, and serves jail time for making terroristic threats.   If the time ever comes for something to happen, I pray to God above it doesn't, who do YOU want to rally behind? People like James Yeager and Alex Jones or people like Ben Shapiro and Joshua Boston? I'll take intelligence and a mindset to get things fixed over insane calls for bloodshed and war before a freakin' bill has even hit the floor.   /rant off

He makes good points. Especially about the BoR, but that's too inconvenient for the libtards.

Yup, because then they'd have to admit they were wrong.

The prices will even out in weeks, but it will be months before anything will be available. Last I heard somewhere around 1 million Magpul Pmags were on backorder.

two other threads already going on...

http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/58144-ny-times-obama-sees-tough-path-on-a-new-assault-weapons-ban/#entry881479   Ongoing thread.

  1. I wouldn't be surprised if he got some sort of visit considering the attention the video has now received. Not saying they'll black bag him off to Gitmo, but I bet something happens.   2. I don't know, but honestly if Yeager was forced to work for Wackenhut as an unarmed Kroger guard til he retires I'd be fine with that.

Oh I know. After doing what I do for a living I've come to a conclusion that the majority of average anti-gun people, not legislators just regular folk, are really just clueless. They think it won't happen to them or that they'll have a gun taken away, etc. They aren't pro-rape/pro-crime. They just simply don't understand what responsible firearms ownership is so they aren't advocates for it. It's just the average sheep mentality.   I agree though. My wife carries and trains and living in Memphis I wouldn't have it any other way. As for Piers...I'll help you get the rhinos.