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Me too!! They work good. Use it to load AR magazines. Leroy

All:____________ You that are ambivalent about the union and its origins should do a bit of reading about the era from about 1900 thru the New Deal with regard to the economic situation in general, and the union movement in particular. Here is a great place to start: "Bloodletting in Appalachia: The Story of West Virginia's Four Major Mine Wars and Other Thrilling Incidents of Its Coal Fields" by Howard B. Lee (...alibris link here: Bloodletting in Appalachia: The Story of West Virginia's Four Major Mine Wars and Other Thrilling Incidents of Its Coal Fields by Howard B Lee (Used, New, Out-of-Print) - Alibris Howard B. Lee is dead and gone now; but he was a lawyer from Southern West Virginia and was a former State's Prosecutor for the State of West Virginia. His book is based upon documents from court proceedings, state and federal records of the times, newspaper articles, and interviews with old time union leaders. It gives plenty of insight into the motives and methods of the union movement. There are plenty of lies floating around about the background, motives, and methods of the union. This book is a great window into those times because it was written by a man who lived during the beginnings of the union movement in West Virginia right up thru the 1960's. I was raised in a family of God Fearing, New Deal Democrat union members who had no idea just how heinous the beginnings of the union movement were. I have worked some 38 years prior to retirement with union men (... lots of them great, some of them "not worth a damn"...) in the fabrication and construction industry. During that 38 year time, I was both a worker and a member of management or the technical community. Never once, during that period did I participate in a 'fat cat capitalist' assault on any union member or his family; as some would have you believe. I am also very well aware that there are some fine people in the union ranks (..many of them dear friends...). Some of them because they have to be due to the "closed shop" and some because they grew up in union families (...building trades, major railroad, machinists, etc...). To a person, none of them would condone the type of thug tactics that the UMWA and others in the union movement have perpetrated over the years. I remember very well the prolonged strike against the Blue Diamond Coal Company in eastern Kentucky that went on for years. You could not go for more than two weeks without seeing a burned out or blown up coal truck sitting at the old East Tennessee Ford Truck Dealership on Clinton Highway here in Knoxville. Today, many of those mines (...and miners who worked them...) are closed due to the violence of that strike. There are no jobs there now. Today we live in a time in which the history revisionists have largely won the day in the mainstream media, academia, and the school system with regard to all these socialist inspired beginnings in the labor movement. They have also forgot the heinous criminal and seditious acts that were perpetrated by union organizers and others during this period because that doesn't fit their templet of the "poor put upon, downtrdden worker" struggling against the mean capitalists. The revisionists have done their work well and many believe the tales that say that the "fat cat capitalists' were the only bad guys and the "little guy" was mistreated. The fact is that there were, indeed, a few bad "fat cat mine owners". The fact also is that these guys were far outnumbered by those who believed that it was ok to kill your neighbor just because he wanted to go to work. Some were even killed for trying to leave for another location to get away from the union violence. The union movement today has morphed into a tool to organize for the sake of organizing to gain numbers to improve the union's voting bloc, which is pitifully small, but is a large part of the Demorat power block. The SEIU stands for the "SERVICE EMPLOYEES INTERNATIONAL UNION". It is, in no way, a 'guild" or "skilled labor" organization like many of the old time unions were. There is no "apprentice program" to complete to join the SEIU ---just pay your dues and follow the party line that the union bosses put out. To compare the SEIU with any of the old time unions is laughable. They do, however, have one thing in common with some of them: Thuggism and intimidation tactics. At best, the union is a necessary evil (...one that has been endorsed by the US Government since 1933...). At worst, it is a socialist inspired (...here in the USA, at least...) organization that has lived passed its usefulness (...until recently...). The fact is, that the new use of the union is political. For those who really work; there has been a referendum on the unions for about the last 50 years. The unions have lost. Union membership as of about 1998 was about 14% overall (link here: http://economics.about.com/od/laborinamerica/a/union_decline.htm ). What you are seeing today with the Nobama regime is an extreme union payback and endorsement for voting Demorat. The fact is, in the end, everything is about politics. No country can "spend its way into prosperity with money it has to borrow to do the buying with." Prosperity will be returned to this country when folks are allowed to create real jobs without the meddlings of special interest groups and politicians who can be bought and sold like cattle for a few pennies. This prosperity will be driven by honest folks who are willing to give "a fair days work for a fair days pay" with money that they earn in the private sector. It will not be fixed by those 'on the dole" who think that government is the source of every good and perfect thing. Don’t be drug off into the bushes by the baloney that says we need more regulation in the areas of worker safety, environmental compliance, equal opportunity, right to organize, banking, etc, etc. It aint the real issue. The real issue is the murder of capitalism in this country and the rise of a Marxist government run by elites and populated by serfs. Guess who the serf will be. Leroy

Folks:____________ AR is exactly right. Everyone who loves liberty and believes in the capitalist system would do well to consider what is said here: The fact is that the problem with the Republicans is the "politician problem"; politicians run on one platform and they govern on another. The Tea Party Movement is doing a great job of sending the message to those "politicians" that they better do exactly what they say they should do; and I (...and many others, I’m sure...) are in complete agreement with sending that message. We need to sweep out those who won't mind. That being said, politics is all about winning first. Since we have a two party system; it's either the Republicans or the Democrats. It is a fact, as Froggy opined in a great one liner in another political thread: This, too, is exactly right. At this juncture in history, a vote for a Democrat is a vote for what you have today; ... A Marxist government that is destroying what economy this country has left. The fact of the matter is that if there are no people with money (...read that capitalists, "Fat Cats", bank executives, CEO's, ..on and on --- you get the picture...). There is no capital available for investment to create jobs and pay taxes. It has never not been that way. Folks need to understand (...and I think many are beginning to...) that the bunch governing this country today are taking it to third world status as fast as they can. The fact is that this economics stuff aint too hard to understand. The principles of job creation are not new things. They have been known since the 1800's. A question that everyone needs to ask himself is this: "If you can create jobs by lowering taxes, easing restrictions on banking, and cleaning up regulation of business; why is it that the Nobama administration doesn't do it? The answer is simple. The presently constituted Demorat party in power does not believe in capitalism and the free market. They are, in fact, committed Marxists (...they deny it, but their actions and history say differently...), and are following the lead of every other Marxist regime that has operated before. This is a serious issue for everyone who believes in what this country USED (...the hippy generation and "Flower Children [Marxists, all] have done a pretty good job of changing this in lots of peoples minds since the sixties...) to be founded on. The guarantees of private property and individual freedom (…read that business enterprise and investments…). Folks, it's a short step from where we are now economically to the seizure of private property (...and companies are private property...). Without property, you are a serf. Think about that before you pick the next guy (...or gal...) who will represent you in your local, state, or federal election. Remember, there is an election this fall and in 2012, Vote early and often!! The opposition sure will!!! Food for thought. Leroy

JC:___________ Do some web surfing and go to AR15.com. Lots of good information. Kind regards, Leroy

All:____________ Just found this in the opinion section of the Pittsburg Tribune-Review: Link here: The union label: Paying off Big Labor - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review# Leroy

+1 ... The Bersa's are hard to beat. They are also fairly priced. Kind regards, Leroy

Folks:______________ The State of West Virginia is dotted with little community graveyards that are full of folks that died in labor strife at the hands of misguided strikers who killed their brothers over working for a living; and those killed by real union operative thugs with criminal and "One Big Union (...read that Red or Communist...) leanings that thought it was ok to kill people who didn't agree with their politics and thoughts on union membership. Lots of this happened in communities that when the cases were tried; the witnesses were either too intimidated or just plain afraid to tell the truth of what happened; so the killers got off on mistrials and clearly wrong verdicts. The end result was that the union could murder or intimidate anyone they wanted to without worrying too much about any consequences or niceties of the law. This all happened from the era of about 1905 thru the New Deal when the great god Roosevelt sided with the unions and gave them the upper hand to unionize wherever (...and whatever...) they chose. This allowed the UMWA to organize and operate with impunity over the next 40 or so years and hold the heavy industry of the USA hostage to "miner's holidays" and strikes. The UMW was the only union to strike in wartime -- during WWII. The coal mine operators finally finished the reign of the UMW by developing and applying mechanized mining methods to coal operations. Today, the UMWA is a shell of what it once was; and overall union membership is about 12% (...link here: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/14/business/14count.html ...). A core constituency of the Demorat party is the unions. They see the opportunity to strong arm whoever they can to increase that 12% membership (... which is, by the way, mostly government ---think about it...). That is why, for the first time in a long time, that they feel free to do whatever they want to do (... including thug tactics like targeting individual corporate officers...). They know that they have "friends in high places" if it comes to prosecution time. You are seeing this resurgence of these philosophies and tactics because you have radical leftists governing in the majority in this country who are the sons and daughters of the original thugs and "Reds" that thought this stuff was ok at the beginning of the last century. I can’t wait for 2012 to come around; and im a pretty old guy and probably can’t afford to fritter away a couple of years at my advanced age. Food for thought; and thanks for posting the article! Folks need to wake up. Leroy

Amen brother!! My sentiments exactly. Maybe he will go back home to the northeast. We can only hope. Keep up the good work! Kind regards, Leroy

All:____________ Remember the great Homer Stokes speech in that great film classic "OH Brother": "...We aim to pull up evil by the roots!..." . Having agreed with that course of action; heres a "corrupting influence changer" and a "elite ruling class eliminator" from the past. Check 'em out here: Axis History Factbook: Gallery: Freikorps The pictures are great!! We might oughta start using some of these tactics on politicians who won’t mind. Remember the Freikorps Motto (...loose paraphrase...)..."Better to shoot a few innocents that to let one guilty get away!..." This philosophy stops all the apologizing for inadvertently doing the wrong thing. Another public service message from Leroy. Enjoy

Ted Nugent is a great man! Thanks for posting that great article. Keep up the good work. Kind regards, Leroy

OS:_________ Blessed are the extreme pessimists. They shall not be disappointed! Keep up the good work! Kind regards, Leroy

kb:______________ Try a small dot of rubber cement. I bet if they get locked up; you can drop a little drop of acetone down the threads and soften it up again. I got some of them little buggers too! Kind regards, Leroy

What a great thing!! I love Ray Stephens. He is a great American!! Thanks for posting this great clip! Kind regards, Leroy

Dolomite and Reb:__________ Don’t worry guys. Discussion is a great thing. Many are tired of seeing the failings of a justice system that is either too weak or too corrupt to deliver justice that is "justice for the wronged". I fully agree with your frustrations. Remember, the truth is always the truth; that fact, in itself, offends lots of folks. Many prefer a fantasy land of good intentions. Keep up the good work. Kind regards, Leroy

It's a great day for America when self-serving double talking political trash like Specter are sent into retirement. Thank you Demorat voters of Pennsylvania! Leroy

I like the "Tuffy" stuff too. We need one of the "under the back seat" drawers for my son's Wrangler. Tuffy is good stuff. Kind regards, Leroy

Sorry to hear it. Dont read the posts or start the spitting contest if you dont expect to get a rebuttal. You started this little dust up, i didnt. You shouldnt expect not to be answered when you presume to lecture others. Leroy

I love this!!! Keep up the good work! Kind regards, Leroy

I like the Ruger Marks too. Relatively inexpensive, excellent shooters. Kind regards, Leroy

Great article. Full of truth. Thanks for posting it. Kind regards, Leroy

SW:____________ Before you paint with the "big paint brush" and pass judgment on "warped logic" and become enraged with "condescending pronouncements", you need to calm down, take a baby aspirin, and re-adjust your glasses. Now that you've done that, first things first: First of all, I never said that I did agree with it. The fact is that I don’t really care how they do it. The truth of the matter is that someone should do it and do it in a timely manner. The fact is that our society (...here in Tennessee, at least...) has evidently decided on lethal injection or "ole sparky". I could care less which one they use; as long as they use it. That's the point of my little rant. You may not have thought about this much; but I firmly believe that "the law" ought to work both ways. It should bring sure judgment to the guilty and some sense of justice for those lying in the grave or left on the earth that are affected by the crime. The fact that that the law is seemingly powerless and too weak to do this very job is one of the chief reasons why these monsters are murdering others with impunity. Your line of logic allows for all the niceties of the "presumption of innocence" for those who are clearly guilty with none of the "justice for those who have been wronged". I don’t like that idea. It, in itself, is a perversion of justice. I like the 90 day idea and we ought to employ it. You seem to favor the "endless appeal route". Those are differences in opinions. The fact is that there will always be innocent folks in jail on death row because the law is not perfect (...and never will be...). You are worried about the rights of the accused; I’m worried about the rights of the murdered and maimed. I believe if there was more swift, sure punishment meted out by our justice system; there would be a lot less need to mete that justice out in the first place. Re: Me being condescending. It is a character flaw. I'm most always that way when I’m having a conversation with folks that should be old enough to know better. I fully confess to it. Hope this little speech makes you feel better. Now I’ll lay back down, take a baby aspirin and have a little nap. I urge you to do the same and don’t be so easily roused to indignation. After all, this is a forum of like minded friends discussing issues. Not a place for gladiators to battle. Kind regards, Leroy

Who do you think should do it? We used to have public executions carried out by officers of the jurisdictions that had the trial. I believe that if it were no more than about 90 days between sentencing and carrying out of a capital sentence; there would be a lot fewer capital sentences that needed to be handed out, and crimes would be curbed. I could (...and i believe many others would agree...) care less how barbaric, heinous, and painful the carrying out of the death sentence is. Since our societies’ elites have deemed that all mankind is good and can be rehabilitated; we have decided to put them all in time out or just to threaten them with the death penalty after about thirty years of appeals and delays. One of the reasons that our society is so far into the toilet is that we have no objective set of moral and ethical convictions. Everything is relative. Everything has qualifiers and mitigating circumstances. Kids had bad parents, they weren’t breast fed as babies, white people were mean to them, and black people were mean to them --- on and on and on --- all idiotic drivel. We have reduced the process of "justice" to a grotesque comedy pretending to pass out justice. All the while making excuses for and deferring to the rights of the excrement that seems only too happy to continue doing whatever unspeakable act they care to commit. Many of them full well know that all they need is a ratty defense attorney who can be bought with money and a bunch of pop culture trash to sit on the jury. All they need is one juror to bail them out. At this juncture in history, the American system of justice is a grotesque comedy. The real losers are the citizens who are exposed to it. Thus endeth the lesson. Leroy

Interesting read. May have some wide ranging effects. Thanks for posting it. Kind regards, Leroy

I agree. These are the only two choices. I've got a Nikon D80. I love it. I'm sure a Canon is equally great. By the way, i have Adobe Photoshop Elements 6.0. It will do anything you want with the nikon .nef files. Hope this helps, Leroy

I like it!! A REAL auto pistola!! Enjoy, Leroy PS---CAINT WAIT FOR THE RANGE REPORT!!