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I could see this happening. I've seen cops do things before that they really didnt want to do, but were goaded by someone. I once got a ticket after a traffic accident from a cop who clearly was NOT going to give me one but for the demands of the other person involved. I went to court berceuse I thought the other guy and the cop were both wrong. The judge, who luckily was very aware of that particular intersection, sided with me and dismissed the ticket. He was a bit of an a**h*** about it too to both the other guy and to the cop. But I illustrate this to mean that BigK makes a great point. I think this should be an easy fix, heck, other states have done it. Owner is withing his rights to tell you to leave or disarm. You go or face criminal trespass charge if you refuse.

I remember that. I watched her testimony to I think it was the Texas legislature afterwards, in a campaign to change their carry laws. She later went on to serve in their lehislature.

Glad the people and the process are good, but that doesnt sound right to me. When the laws were changed both in Tennessee and Nationally, I dont think this was the the intent.

Never had neck bones, but love lamb. Had it Gyros and also in England in Shepherds Pie.

oh ok. Thats the way i did it when i used suspenders. Somehow I got the impression, I guess by looking at the upfitters web page that yall werent using a belt, lol. That is what prompted my question. The Perry suspenders i used, the wider ones were very good.

How do you carry? Are your pants rigid enough to support a holster or do you pocket varry?

While I agree, I'm always afraid that I'll be the exception that gets arrested by an overzealous LEO simply for carrying past the sign. Seems like it shouldnt be that big a deal to simply remove the law or that part of it. When this came up before, some of the state legislators argued that property owners have rights and removing this would take away their rights. I dont agree with that. I mean, they can have the right to ask me to disarm or leave their property and if I refuse, THEN the law could be involved as a trespassing issue. I like to follow the law and laws like this make a lawbreaker of many folks.

For a few years when i was carrying my Sig 1911 and then my FN-45 plus 2 spare mags, along with other pocket litter, I wore a belt and a pair of Perry wide suspenders that hooked onto my belt. It kept my pants up but I developed should issues in my weak side shoulder unrelated to the suspenders so I had to stop using the suspenders due to shoulder pain. . About the same time, I switched to a Sig P-365 as my EDC and started carrying both IWB and OWB with a Kore belt. In addition to my 365, I also carry one extra 17 round mag, a Benchmade auto, a big wallet, a small keys and a small Kershaw Launch 4 auto. I have to cinch it up snug but it holds everything in place with minimal hitching up my pants.

I like the looks of it. The FAQS said it wont work with optics except for small pistols...

Also have this ‘medical condition, LOL. I have belly bands and a carry undershirt with pouches and other things. What works best for me so far is a good OWB holster, a rigid Kore belt and a loose over shirt or jacket. I have a couple carry fanny packs but don’t use them as they have been considered to scream, Gun! I’ve also got a couple cross body sling packs, and while I like them, I tend to fill them up rather quickly with stuff I ‘need’ to carry, to the point that they are too heavy to carry. I’ve got an emergency bag in the back of my car, with first aid stuff, water filters, etc. my sling bag is too heavy, containing several loaded spare mags, a mag loader and a couple boxes of extra ammo. I guess one solution would be to leave a bag containing spare mags in the car, and then carry a very light sling bag back and forth? If you’re carrying a gun in your sling bag, I’d recommend you rehearse drawing it so you can learn to be quick at it.

How many firearms makers does this make that we have in Tennessee now? Anyone know?

The similarity is that there is a question if hamas or similar terrorists are coming in through our southern border.

Good. Bearing in mind what Jews have gone through in the past in many parts of the world, American Jews political beliefs as a group have always surprised me. Good to see that starting to change, though I hate the reason.

Thats true, depending on where they go. If they are a little smart they will pick unarmed targets. I guess once that starts happening, we'll see just how anti gun the anti gunners are.

I fear its coming here, and soon. 9/11 was bad enough, but it will be worse when people in the heartland are afraid to even go out.

Agree. And I want us out of Ukraine as well.

Agree, but I want to provide any and all aid to Israel towards this end. If we can provide untold amounts of aid to a corrupt Ukraine, we can help Israel. Im think the Gaza strip should cease to exist as it has in the past.

Pure evil is everywhere, but Hamas and others like it are even more so.

Have you checked with the Goodlettsville Gun Shop? I got mine there a few months ago at a good price.

I seem to remember that Israel was willing to accept a 2 state solution as long as it included recognition of Israel as a State with a right to exist. Also seems like this was the main sticking point with the rest of them. Is my memory faulty? Whoever above mentioned the mullahs in Iran hit the nail on the head for sure. There's no doubt in my mind that Iran orchestrated this to destabilize the middle east. They knew that when it comes right down to it, regardless of which branch of Islam a country is, they'll all be afraid of siding with Israel against another Muslim country. That's why Saddam target Israel during the first Gulf war, when Israel wasn't even a player. He knew that if Israel joined in, the rest of the Islamic countries would bail and the coalition would fall apart.

I was too! We were told we were going.

I am a little. But then, I pay almost all my bills electroniccally, my paychecks are deposited electronically, and I send money to my kids via Venmo, Cashapp and Paypal, lol.

I've got an old friend in Okawville, Illinois and he said his have already left for the winter.

I also feel your pain, some. I live in the Davidson County side of Goodlettsvile and we were redistricted last year. While this helped get rid of liberal Dem Jim Cooper, which was good, it made my home fall in Rep John Rose district. While he seems ok, and at least he’s a GOP member, his base area has little in common with this area, so I feel like I’m still not represented. My state rep is Vincent Dixie and state sen is Heidi Campbell, both liberal Dems.

Just curious as to magazine capacity on both the flush fit as well as extended mags, is it 15band 17?